Free weight SNOBS

gman99 said:

Wow...I didn't realise just how many free weight snobs there are out
there. People who think that if you don't lift free weights you are

not

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doing anything. There seem to be a lot of people who think that they
are better than everyone else because they use free weights...not
everyone has access to free weights, not everyone wants to use free
weights for every exercise...some people like a good mix of both free
weights and machines...to each their own !! There are advantages to
free weights and I recommend that everyone who's goals are to do more
than get a little exercise do some free weight exercises. There are
also advantages to machines as they tend to instill good form.

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From what I understand quite a majority of the machines prevent

obtaining the desired ROM. To a point where a lot of them could be
dangerous.

Eric

"gman99" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Wow...I didn't realise just how many free weight snobs there are out
there. People who think that if you don't lift free weights you are not
doing anything. There seem to be a lot of people who think that they
are better than everyone else because they use free weights...not
everyone has access to free weights, not everyone wants to use free
weights for every exercise...some people like a good mix of both free
weights and machines...to each their own !! There are advantages to
free weights and I recommend that everyone who's goals are to do more
than get a little exercise do some free weight exercises. There are
also advantages to machines as they tend to instill good form.

You are reading us wrong.

I LIKE hammerstrength equipment.

It is YOU I don't like.

Get it??

If you weren't such a whiny little [censored], we wouldn't be such "snobs".

gamin said:

Wow...I didn't realise just how many free weight snobs there are out
there.

On a newsgroup called misc.fitness.WEIGHTS?! You must be an idiot.

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People who think that if you don't lift free weights you are not
doing anything. There seem to be a lot of people who think that they
are better than everyone else because they use free weights...

Well, that's one reason, yes. ;-)

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not everyone has access to free weights,

Anyone with access to machines has access to weights, surely.

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not everyone wants to use free weights for every exercise...

Sure, lots of people can't handle squatting, for example.

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:01:20 -0500, "Lee Michaels" continued his
incessant whining with another whiney load of old [censored]

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Wow...I didn't realise just how many free weight snobs there are out
there. People who think that if you don't lift free weights you are not
doing anything. There seem to be a lot of people who think that they
are better than everyone else because they use free weights...not
everyone has access to free weights, not everyone wants to use free
weights for every exercise...some people like a good mix of both free
weights and machines...to each their own !! There are advantages to
free weights and I recommend that everyone who's goals are to do more
than get a little exercise do some free weight exercises. There are
also advantages to machines as they tend to instill good form.

You are reading us wrong.

I LIKE hammerstrength equipment.

It is YOU I don't like.

Get it??

If you weren't such a whiny little [censored], we wouldn't be such "snobs".

Lee do stop your incessant whining about other people whining, it is
all becoming very tedious!!

Try and think of some more original way of kicking your many foes in
the nuts!!

HTH

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not everyone has access to free weights,

Anyone with access to machines has access to weights, surely.

Nothing sure about it !

"T" wrote

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gamin said:

Wow...I didn't realise just how many free weight snobs there are out
there.

On a newsgroup called misc.fitness.WEIGHTS?! You must be an idiot.

Bingo.

Give the man a cigar.

Lee Michaels said:

"T" wrote

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gamin said:

Wow...I didn't realise just how many free weight snobs there are

out

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there.

On a newsgroup called misc.fitness.WEIGHTS?! You must be an idiot.

Bingo.

Give the man a cigar.

Is that .weights or .free.weights ?? Now who's the idiot !!

"gman99" wrote

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Lee Michaels said:

"T" wrote

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gamin wrote:
> Wow...I didn't realise just how many free weight snobs there are

out

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> there.

On a newsgroup called misc.fitness.WEIGHTS?! You must be an idiot.

Bingo.

Give the man a cigar.

Is that .weights or .free.weights ?? Now who's the idiot !!

You have to ask??

OK, I will help you.

Look in the mirror.

There he is!! The Idiot!!

Glad to help.

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You have to ask??

OK, I will help you.

Look in the mirror.

There he is!! The Idiot!!

Glad to help.

What are you, twelve years old or something ??

"gman99" babbled

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You have to ask??

OK, I will help you.

Look in the mirror.

There he is!! The Idiot!!

Glad to help.

What are you, twelve years old or something ??

Forgot how to attribute?? Must be aging related dementia.

And I am NOT twelve years old. I was much more mature at twelve.

Besides, they didn't have computers (or usenet) back then.

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And I am NOT twelve years old. I was much more mature at twelve.

At least your honest !!

"gman99" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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And I am NOT twelve years old. I was much more mature at twelve.

At least your honest !!

Having a conversation with yourself again? Learn to attribute.

And in the sentence above, your is not the proper spelling/usage.

You're is the proper spelling/usage.

HTH.

Idiot.

"gman99" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Wow...I didn't realise just how many free weight snobs there are out
there. [snip]

Oh, I thought this was a discussion about the Society of Nordic Barbershop
Singers
http://www.snobs.org/

S.

--

hopefully this reply is all you'll need to satisfy whatever pointless
urge that caused you to write the above disastrously unamusing [censored]. --
Fish! - of Arcadia

gman99 said:

Wow...I didn't realise just how many free weight snobs there are out
there. People who think that if you don't lift free weights you are not
doing anything. There seem to be a lot of people who think that they
are better than everyone else because they use free weights...not
everyone has access to free weights, not everyone wants to use free
weights for every exercise...some people like a good mix of both free
weights and machines...to each their own !! There are advantages to
free weights and I recommend that everyone who's goals are to do more
than get a little exercise do some free weight exercises. There are
also advantages to machines as they tend to instill good form.

Short of rehab, free weights and the proper lifts are better then any
machine.

The only advantages i have heard from you for these machines is that it
is easy to load weight on because the weights are right on the machine,
and it is safer.

Anyone with enough chromosomes knows machines are no safer then free
weights. And I don't mind walking around the gym to collect the plates
I need, even if they wern't stacked on the bench or power rack I am using.

Machines do not instill good form, they cause you to rely on the machine
to tell you what the form is, un-instilling good form.

This forum has a powerlifting/iron-moving, educate yourself, get smart,
train smart, mindset and your machine propaganda isn't going to work
around here, because we know better. Go somewhere else if you want
someone to agree with your views on weight machines.

--Falooley

"gman99" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You have to ask??

OK, I will help you.

Look in the mirror.

There he is!! The Idiot!!

Glad to help.

What are you, twelve years old or something ??

He is a [censored] - you give him too much credit.

"Lee Michaels" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"gman99" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Wow...I didn't realise just how many free weight snobs there are out
there. People who think that if you don't lift free weights you are not
doing anything. There seem to be a lot of people who think that they
are better than everyone else because they use free weights...not
everyone has access to free weights, not everyone wants to use free
weights for every exercise...some people like a good mix of both free
weights and machines...to each their own !! There are advantages to
free weights and I recommend that everyone who's goals are to do more
than get a little exercise do some free weight exercises. There are
also advantages to machines as they tend to instill good form.

You are reading us wrong.

I LIKE hammerstrength equipment.

It is YOU I don't like.

Get it??

If you weren't such a whiny little [censored], we wouldn't be such "snobs".

Fact is, [censored] for brains, not too many of us like you either - you are in
your element now eh [censored] for brains? Attack dog piling in when you can see
one or two seem to be beating on someone?

"Bob Falooley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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gman99 said:

Wow...I didn't realise just how many free weight snobs there are out
there. People who think that if you don't lift free weights you are not
doing anything. There seem to be a lot of people who think that they
are better than everyone else because they use free weights...not
everyone has access to free weights, not everyone wants to use free
weights for every exercise...some people like a good mix of both free
weights and machines...to each their own !! There are advantages to
free weights and I recommend that everyone who's goals are to do more
than get a little exercise do some free weight exercises. There are
also advantages to machines as they tend to instill good form.

Short of rehab, free weights and the proper lifts are better then any
machine.

The only advantages i have heard from you for these machines is that it
is easy to load weight on because the weights are right on the machine,
and it is safer.

Anyone with enough chromosomes knows machines are no safer then free
weights. And I don't mind walking around the gym to collect the plates
I need, even if they wern't stacked on the bench or power rack I am using.

Machines do not instill good form, they cause you to rely on the machine
to tell you what the form is, un-instilling good form.

This forum has a powerlifting/iron-moving, educate yourself, get smart,
train smart, mindset and your machine propaganda isn't going to work
around here, because we know better. Go somewhere else if you want
someone to agree with your views on weight machines.

--Falooley

I don't think 'form' is an issue here - you can have bad form using free
weights even easier than when using machines. I have been in this industry a
long time and have seen that many people get excellent results using
machines and over many years. I think this is an issue of convenience, time
efficiency and using what is available to you. There is nothing wrong with
that.

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Anyone with enough chromosomes knows machines are no safer then free
weights. And I don't mind walking around the gym to collect the

plates

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I need, even if they wern't stacked on the bench or power rack I am

using.

Really...so if I overdo it and need to drop the hammer strength guess
what...me no hurt afterwards. If I overdo it with a barbell I'm
DEAD....that's D-E-A-D....hmmmmm...YES, machines ARE safer !!

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Machines do not instill good form, they cause you to rely on the

machine

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to tell you what the form is, un-instilling good form.

I disagree...

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This forum has a powerlifting/iron-moving, educate yourself, get

smart,

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train smart, mindset and your machine propaganda isn't going to work
around here, because we know better. Go somewhere else if you want
someone to agree with your views on weight machines.

That's some acid trip you are on....where did all that come from ?? Do
you detect a conspiracy ??

"gman99" babbled

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Anyone with enough chromosomes knows machines are no safer then free
weights. And I don't mind walking around the gym to collect the

plates

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I need, even if they wern't stacked on the bench or power rack I am

using.

Really...so if I overdo it and need to drop the hammer strength guess
what...me no hurt afterwards. If I overdo it with a barbell I'm
DEAD....that's D-E-A-D....hmmmmm...YES, machines ARE safer !!

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Machines do not instill good form, they cause you to rely on the

machine

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to tell you what the form is, un-instilling good form.

I disagree...

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This forum has a powerlifting/iron-moving, educate yourself, get

smart,

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train smart, mindset and your machine propaganda isn't going to work
around here, because we know better. Go somewhere else if you want
someone to agree with your views on weight machines.

That's some acid trip you are on....where did all that come from ?? Do
you detect a conspiracy ??

Talking to yourself again?

And you wonder why we all think you are an idiot.

And when are you going to learn to attribute?