heart attacks?

Huw Lynes said:

So I was watching Top Gear last night (yes, I know, but it's

entertaining in a

Quoted message said:

juvenile way) when Clarkson made an off-hand comment about something

in the

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news proving that cyclists are more likely to suffer heart attacks

than

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motorists.

A quick googling has left me none the wiser. Does anyone know to what

he was

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referring?

Probably, he was referring to this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3761012.stm

....and applying his usual level of logic. What the
study in question showed was that the level of risk
of a heart attack increased more for cyclists in a
traffic jam than it did for motorists.

Huw Lynes said:

So I was watching Top Gear last night (yes, I know, but it's entertaining in a
juvenile way) when Clarkson made an off-hand comment about something in the
news proving that cyclists are more likely to suffer heart attacks than
motorists.

Probably this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3761012.stm

R.

Huw Lynes said:

A quick googling has left me none the wiser. Does anyone know to what he was
referring?

Possibly a misrepresentation of these:-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3991633.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1383645.stm

However if I recall correctly, other studies have shown that car
drivers inhale more pollution than cyclists so if Clarkson was
referring to these then he has his conclusions back to front.

Or maybe there is some other research I'm unaware of which shows
that a sedentary big-mac-munching commute by car is better for
the heart than some brisk exercise on a bike.

Pete.

That set me thinking - at 61 I am about the only one of my local Pub pals
that is NOT on blood pressure tablets! I cycle everywhere, they drive
everywhere.

Significant?

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Probably, he was referring to this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3761012.stm

That must have been it. But what an odd result. How do german cyclists
manage to get themselves stuck in traffic jams?

Rich

Huw Lynes said:

So I was watching Top Gear last night (yes, I know, but it's entertaining in a
juvenile way) when Clarkson made an off-hand comment about something in the
news proving that cyclists are more likely to suffer heart attacks than
motorists.

A quick googling has left me none the wiser. Does anyone know to what he was
referring?

He is a loud-mouthed, lard-arsed, smoking (ex smoking?) wazzok who, like
most playground ejits, can't ever say or do anything constructive.

I'd not pay him any heed if I were you...

--
Chris

nobody760 said:

That set me thinking - at 61 I am about the only one of my local Pub pals
that is NOT on blood pressure tablets! I cycle everywhere, they drive
everywhere.

Significant?

VERY

nobody760 said:

That set me thinking - at 61 I am about the only one of my local Pub pals
that is NOT on blood pressure tablets! I cycle everywhere, they drive
everywhere.

Significant?

Statistically? Depends how many pub pals you have, but probably not.

Circumstantially? Yes. Have you made them aware of this?

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Mark.
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On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 12:41:08 +0000

Succorso said:

Huw Lynes said:

So I was watching Top Gear last night (yes, I know, but it's entertaining
in a juvenile way) when Clarkson made an off-hand comment about something
in the
news proving that cyclists are more likely to suffer heart attacks than
motorists.

A quick googling has left me none the wiser. Does anyone know to what he
was referring?

He is a loud-mouthed, lard-arsed, smoking (ex smoking?) wazzok who, like
most playground ejits, can't ever say or do anything constructive.

I'd not pay him any heed if I were you...

I don't and you are correct in your assessment of Mr Clarkson's character. I
just wondered what the original source was. As usual the collective memory of
u.r.c responded magnificently. Now, when I get into that argument with a
non-cyclist trying to tell me I'll get a heart attack, I shall know from where
the idiocy first rose.

Succorso said:

Huw Lynes said:

So I was watching Top Gear last night (yes, I know, but it's

entertaining in a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

juvenile way) when Clarkson made an off-hand comment about

something in the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

news proving that cyclists are more likely to suffer heart attacks

than

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

motorists.

A quick googling has left me none the wiser. Does anyone know to

what he was

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Quoted message said:

referring?

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wazzok

Brilliant word - haven't heard that for ages, probably not since my
last "Texan" bar.

--
Hywel

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A quick googling has left me none the wiser. Does anyone know to what he was
referring?

Probably yet another fantasy about cycling that is a total twisting of reality.
Who knows what goes on in the retarded amoeba that is the woolly-haired w*nker.
Top Gear went downhill *totally* when that twit took over.

Cheers, helen s

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Probably, he was referring to this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3761012.stm
...and applying his usual level of logic.

Indeed. Because when there was a study of risk of coronary heart
disease in cyclists, it was found that they had lower levels of CHD
than people who took their exercise in gyms.

Guy
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A quick googling has left me none the wiser. Does anyone know to what he
was
referring?

Probably yet another fantasy about cycling that is a total twisting of
reality.
Who knows what goes on in the retarded amoeba that is the woolly-haired
w*nker.
Top Gear went downhill *totally* when that twit took over.

I read him in The Sun and I think he's become genuinely worried about his
weight and smoking. His cycling "attacks" are probably borne out of envy
more than anything. Grasping at any story that might show car drivers are
healthier than cyclists will go some way to justify his unhealthy lifestyle
in his mind.

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I read him in The Sun and I think he's become genuinely worried about
his weight and smoking. His cycling "attacks" are probably borne out
of envy more than anything. Grasping at any story that might show car
drivers are healthier than cyclists will go some way to justify his
unhealthy lifestyle in his mind.

I reckon it's even simpler than that - cyclists are easy targets for a lazy
joke. They are 'other people, not like us', so provide a butt for humour.

Ie it isn't deliberate - indeed for him, stopping making these comments
would require more effort.

(This was the sort of thing the original political correctness stuff was
about (original, not the version the Daily Mail et al like to pretend it
means) ).

cheers,
clive

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Top Gear went downhill *totally* when that twit took over.

Agreed.. but it's not something I generally watch and only occasionally used
to catch a glimpse of while flicking across channels. Between one glimpse
and the next it seemed Clarkson had taken over Top Gear and turned it into
its current completely stupid format, and all the other 'old' presenters -
at least, Tiff ' and Vicky ' had buggered off to do Channel 5's Fifth Gear.
Don't know how all that came about..

Rich

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Probably, he was referring to this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3761012.stm

That must have been it. But what an odd result. How do german cyclists
manage to get themselves stuck in traffic jams?

Precisely, it is impossible for a cyclist to get stuck in a traffic jam
so it calls the whole research into question.

If all else fails I take to the pavement.

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Rich

half_pint said:

Precisely, it is impossible for a cyclist to get stuck in a traffic jam
so it calls the whole research into question.

If "getting stuck" == "stationary" then yes, but I am quite frequently
held up == delayed by car traffic jams. Not as much as if I was in a
car, mind.

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half_pint said:

Precisely, it is impossible for a cyclist to get stuck in a traffic jam
so it calls the whole research into question.

If "getting stuck" == "stationary" then yes, but I am quite frequently
held up == delayed by car traffic jams. Not as much as if I was in a
car, mind.

Actually I love traffic jams!!
I enjoy breezeing past hundreds of queueing cars.
If there is no room to pass on the left I pass on there right
(traffic jams are usually only on one side of the road).
Failing that I use the pavement.

If you are one of those cyclists who frown on cycling
on the pavement, jumping red lights etc... then maybe they
are more prone to stress. My advice is lighten up and
break the rules a bit.

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| > Probably, he was referring to this:
| >
| > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3761012.stm
| >
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| That must have been it. But what an odd result. How do german cyclists
| manage to get themselves stuck in traffic jams?

Maybe there are laws there of which we know nothing. We do know many
Germans won't jay-walk across an empty road.

From the bbc article:
| Heart attacks were 2.6 times more common for people stuck in cars,
| 3.1 times higher for people taking public transportation, and 3.9 times
| greater for cyclists.

Perhaps it is more stressful for cyclists to be held up, given that we
are so unused to it, whereas car drivers can switch the radio on etc

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