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  1. For a workable definition of a 'outlier' you can use a 49-yr-old 'type
    A' bloke who drank loads, ate loads, had a stressful job and decided
    to cycle to work one day.
    My cardiologist offered no definition but it stands to reason that
    they would be someone already at risk of a heart attack. His views on
    'vigorous' exercise were arrived at from his viewpoint as a consultant
    cardiologist in a busy teaching hospital. He tended to see a lot of
    blokes (and, of course, a few women) arriving blue-faced from their
    chosen exercise. Many of these people might present (much later?) with
    chest pains as a result of chronically narrowed coronary arteries
    rather than an acute 100% blockage die to unstable arterial plaque
    dislodged by exercise.
    Despite the other aspects of my then lifestyle I exercised fairly
    regularly so my view is that any extra fitness will increase the
    survivability of the event.
    There is plenty of data on exercise vs improved cardiac capacity but
    in the absence of any studies on differences in the outcome of
    cardiac emergencies, my cardiologist and I have agreed to differ.

    Pete

    James Annan said:
    monotreme said:

    My cardiologist is sceptical of what he calls 'vigorous exercise'.
    Essentially, his position is that the risk/benefit borderline will
    vary from individual to individual and that the average statistics for
    a group might tempt an 'outlier' into risky behaviour.

    Did he have a workable definition of what at "outlier" might look like
    ab initio, or was this just a post-hoc pigeonholing of the unlucky ones?

    James

  2. "Simon Proven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    J Houston said:

    Again, I think both of them are quite entertaining as presenters. They
    tend
    to keep quoting horsepower figures etc of cars they're reviewing to a
    minimum, which helps. James May definately has a touch of the Stephen
    Fry about him, though...

    Is that bad?

    I dont think it is, no. Fry's quite entertaining also.

    James H

  3. dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:

    Probably yet another fantasy about cycling that is a total twisting of reality.
    Who knows what goes on in the retarded amoeba that is the woolly-haired w*nker.
    Top Gear went downhill *totally* when that twit took over.

    I read somewhere yesterday that the BBC are to build a purpose-built
    studio for Top Gear near Clarkson's home. Actually, it's near the track
    where they do the testing, which just happens to be near Clarkson's home.

    At first I thought this was a bad thing.

    Then I realised it might be a good thing as it would mean he would only
    be driving a few miles to work instead of halfway across the south of
    England. Making the lives of foxes safer.

    Then I realised it really was a bad thing. The distance is cycleable but
    would the arrogant [censored] turn up for a car show on a bike? I doubt it.

    Colin

  4. Colin Blackburn said:

    I read somewhere yesterday that the BBC are to build a purpose-built
    studio for Top Gear near Clarkson's home. Actually, it's near the
    track where they do the testing, which just happens to be near
    Clarkson's home.

    At first I thought this was a bad thing.

    Then I realised it might be a good thing as it would mean he would
    only be driving a few miles to work instead of halfway across the
    south of England. Making the lives of foxes safer.

    Then I realised it really was a bad thing. The distance is cycleable
    but would the arrogant [censored] turn up for a car show on a bike? I
    doubt it.

    Except that the "Top Gear" track is at Dunsfold, Surrey, and Clarkson lives
    near Chipping Norton, Oxon. The AA's route planner says they're about 95
    miles apart...

    --

    Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
    World Domination?
    Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the
    floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine)

  5. Dave Larrington said:

    Except that the "Top Gear" track is at Dunsfold, Surrey, and Clarkson lives
    near Chipping Norton, Oxon. The AA's route planner says they're about 95
    miles apart...

    It is the track where they will do the testing when the program is
    recorded there:

    """
    Planners have given the go-ahead for a television studio near Jeremy
    Clarkson's home despite 50 letters of objection from nearby homeowners.

    The planned studio at Enstone Airfield in Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire,
    will be used to film the BBC's Top Gear programme, presented by Mr Clarkson.

    Councillors say approval has been given on several conditions.

    Filming can only take place on 20 days a year, with a maximum audience
    of 300. Everyone must be off-site by 7.30pm.

    Before permission was granted, planning officer Jeff Lowe told how "over
    50 letters of objection" were received voicing concerns about traffic
    and the studio's visual impact.

    The new 1,000sq ft building will be used instead of the programme's
    current base at Dunsfold in Surrey.
    """

    Colin

  6. Colin Blackburn said:

    """
    Planners have given the go-ahead for a television studio near Jeremy
    Clarkson's home despite 50 letters of objection from nearby
    homeowners.

    The planned studio at Enstone Airfield in Chipping Norton,
    Oxfordshire, will be used to film the BBC's Top Gear programme,
    presented by Mr Clarkson.

    Councillors say approval has been given on several conditions.

    Filming can only take place on 20 days a year, with a maximum audience
    of 300. Everyone must be off-site by 7.30pm.

    Before permission was granted, planning officer Jeff Lowe told how
    "over 50 letters of objection" were received voicing concerns about
    traffic
    and the studio's visual impact.

    The new 1,000sq ft building will be used instead of the programme's
    current base at Dunsfold in Surrey.
    """

    Ah! All becomes clear, like a glass hummingbird.

    --

    Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
    World Domination?
    Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the
    floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine)

  7. On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 11:52:04 -0000, "J Houston" <[email hidden]>

    wrote in message : said:

    James May definately has a touch of the Stephen
    Fry about him, though...

    The key difference is this: while Fry uses the appearance of
    buffoonery to conceal an incisive wit and a brilliant mind, May uses
    the appearance of buffoonery because he has no other option.

    Guy
    --
    "then came ye chavves, theyre cartes girded wyth candels
    blue, and theyre beastes wyth straynge horn-lyke thyngs
    onn theyre arses that theyre fartes be herde from myles
    around." Chaucer, the Sheppey Tales

  8. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 11:52:04 -0000, "J Houston" <[email hidden]>

    wrote in message : said:

    James May definately has a touch of the Stephen
    Fry about him, though...

    The key difference is this: while Fry uses the appearance of
    buffoonery to conceal an incisive wit and a brilliant mind, May uses
    the appearance of buffoonery because he has no other option.

    Touché.

    James H

  9. On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 20:53:48 -0000, "J Houston" <[email hidden]>

    wrote in message : said:

    Touché.

    No, I think it's real enough, just appallingly bouffant.

    Guy
    --
    "then came ye chavves, theyre cartes girded wyth candels
    blue, and theyre beastes wyth straynge horn-lyke thyngs
    onn theyre arses that theyre fartes be herde from myles
    around." Chaucer, the Sheppey Tales

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