Leonids 2004

Fran said:

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Time of maximum expected (ZHR)
2004 Nov 19th 06:42 UTC (10)
2004 Nov 19th 21:49 UTC (~ 65)

UTC? Wossat?

It's what every other country in the world calls GMT. It stands for
Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), the international time standard,
otherwise known as zulu time.

Astronomy needs this kind of standardisation, otherwise we'd get really
confused!

Paul
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http://www.wildwales.fsnet.co.uk

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Quoted message said:

Time of maximum expected (ZHR)
2004 Nov 19th 06:42 UTC (10)
2004 Nov 19th 21:49 UTC (~ 65)

UTC? Wossat?
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as a dire warning.

Fran said:

UTC? Wossat?

From http://www.ghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/utc.html :

"Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) is the international time standard."

Same as GMT as far as I can tell.

Paul will be along shortly to tell you about subtended arcs of
latitude or summat like that.

Judith

Judith said:

Paul will be along shortly to tell you about subtended arcs of
latitude or summat like that.

You see? He's so clever, he posted his answer 5 minutes before you
asked the question!

Judith

Judith said:

Quoted message said:

Paul will be along shortly to tell you about subtended arcs of
latitude or summat like that.

You see? He's so clever, he posted his answer 5 minutes before you
asked the question!

Hehehe! :-)

Best wishes,
--
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(**)PeeWiglet~~
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Judith said:

You see? He's so clever, he posted his answer 5 minutes before you
asked the question!

Damn! Lost another 10 minutes there! I synchronised this damn computer
just a couple of days ago. Battery must be running down. Bloody 1998
technology! Antiquated [censored]!

Paul
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http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk
http://www.wildwales.fsnet.co.uk

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Judith said:

Paul will be along shortly to tell you about subtended arcs of
latitude or summat like that.

You see? He's so clever, he posted his answer 5 minutes before you
asked the question!

<G> *Chuckle*
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I try to be a good example to my children, but they just see me
as a dire warning.

In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Astronomy needs this kind of standardisation, otherwise we'd get really
confused!

Astronomers might - but we're not star gazers so familiar terms will do
best.
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Astronomy needs this kind of standardisation, otherwise we'd get really
confused!

Astronomers might - but we're not star gazers so familiar terms will do
best.

And in any case, if it's GMT they mean, why not just say so?
It's a universally accepted term, after all.
--
I try to be a good example to my children, but they just see me
as a dire warning.

Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful person
Paul Saunders <[email hidden]> said

Quoted message said:

Judith said:

You see? He's so clever, he posted his answer 5 minutes before you
asked the question!

Damn! Lost another 10 minutes there! I synchronised this damn computer
just a couple of days ago. Battery must be running down. Bloody 1998
technology! Antiquated [censored]!

Haven't you installed the technology that synchronises it every time you
go online? And it shouldn't be the battery, unless you leave it turned
off at the wall a lot.

--
GSV Three Minds in a Can
Outgoing Msgs are Turing Tested,and indistinguishable from human typing.

Fran said:

And in any case, if it's GMT they mean, why not just say so?
It's a universally accepted term, after all.

Universally accepted in Britain. Apparently not so universal elsewhere
in the world.

Paul
--
http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk
http://www.wildwales.fsnet.co.uk

GSV Three Minds in a Can said:

Haven't you installed the technology that synchronises it every time
you go online?

I did, until it started locking up my computer every time it tried to
synchronise. Could you recommend a decent one that doesn't do that?

Quoted message said:

And it shouldn't be the battery, unless you leave it
turned off at the wall a lot.

You're assuming a newer computer that still receives power when it's
switched off. This one does not have such an "intelligent" power supply
(no software shut-off). Even my other one, which does, still goes out
of sync, but doesn't suddenly lose large amounts of time, which this one
occasionally does. And I don't turn them off at the wall.

Paul
--
http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk
http://www.wildwales.fsnet.co.uk

Paul Saunders said:

Fran said:

[email hidden] said...

Quoted message said:

Time of maximum expected (ZHR)
2004 Nov 19th 06:42 UTC (10)
2004 Nov 19th 21:49 UTC (~ 65)

UTC? Wossat?

It's what every other country in the world calls GMT. It stands for
Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), the international time standard,
otherwise known as zulu time.

GMT is not UTC. (but it is to all practical purposes....)

And then there is UTC0, UTC1 etc just so us astronomers can confuse the
rest of the world.

Quoted message said:

Astronomy needs this kind of standardisation, otherwise we'd get really
confused!

Hey we can get confused on our own even with standardisation!

Quoted message said:

Paul

Universally accepted but not thought up by the Yanks - I expect UTC was and
of course we have to keep the Yanks happy so please use it and drop the
centuries old term GMT!

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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Astronomy needs this kind of standardisation, otherwise we'd get really
confused!

Astronomers might - but we're not star gazers so familiar terms will do
best.

And in any case, if it's GMT they mean, why not just say so?
It's a universally accepted term, after all.
--
I try to be a good example to my children, but they just see me
as a dire warning.

Paul Saunders <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Fran said:

[email hidden] said...

Quoted message said:

Time of maximum expected (ZHR)
2004 Nov 19th 06:42 UTC (10)
2004 Nov 19th 21:49 UTC (~ 65)

UTC? Wossat?

It's what every other country in the world calls GMT. It stands for
Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), the international time standard,
otherwise known as zulu time.

I am under the impression that "zulu" referred to local time in military
context, as in: "We will rendezvous at 08:00 zulu".
--
Gordon

Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful person
Paul Saunders <[email hidden]> said

Quoted message said:

GSV Three Minds in a Can said:

Haven't you installed the technology that synchronises it every time
you go online?

I did, until it started locking up my computer every time it tried to
synchronise.

Maybe you were trying to synch with a time server that wasn't talking to
you?

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Could you recommend a decent one that doesn't do that?

Well, Turnpike does it for me but that is probably massive overkill
unless you are looking for a new email/newreader at the same time. Most
B/Band modem/router boxes can do it too (and then the PCs can synch from
those with a good old 'net time ....' batch command.) Try googling for a
stand alone solution.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And it shouldn't be the battery, unless you leave it
turned off at the wall a lot.

You're assuming a newer computer that still receives power when it's
switched off. This one does not have such an "intelligent" power supply
(no software shut-off).

You mentioned 1998 or summat - I thought everything was ATX standard
with standby by then. 8>. Mine all were.

--
GSV Three Minds in a Can
Outgoing Msgs are Turing Tested,and indistinguishable from human typing.

Paul Saunders said:

Quoted message said:

Haven't you installed the technology that synchronises it every time
you go online?

I did, until it started locking up my computer every time it tried to
synchronise. Could you recommend a decent one that doesn't do that?

I use a one that is stable on my system, its called PTBSync. It does a
few other "organisational" things as well but I don't use them much.
Its a small app and I use it because it was the best atomic clock
synch program I found (and its free).

Before you visit the web site, a cautionary word; the author's web
site does IE security checks for possible Trojan vulnerabilities on
your system - HE TELLS YOU that he is doing this and explains why (to
bring these to your attention if you're vulnerable). Despite this,
some people might not like it - Norton kills the [java] files the web
page uses to perform the checks so I'm not worried by it. If anyone
_is_ concerned but wants to use the software (which I find good) let
me know and I'll e-mail you a copy (its freeware)

The URL is

http://kickme.to/elmue

and the software package is called PTBSync

SteveO

NE Climbers & walkers chat forum;
http://www.thenmc.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

NMC website: http://www.thenmc.org.uk

In article <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Fran said:

And in any case, if it's GMT they mean, why not just say so?
It's a universally accepted term, after all.

Universally accepted in Britain. Apparently not so universal elsewhere
in the world.

Paul
--
http://www.wilderness-wales.co.uk
http://www.wildwales.fsnet.co.uk

This is becoming silly.

What the hell we're in the UK so lets talk UKspeak then.
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

SteveO said:

Paul Saunders said:

Quoted message said:

Haven't you installed the technology that synchronises it every time
you go online?

I did, until it started locking up my computer every time it tried to
synchronise. Could you recommend a decent one that doesn't do that?

I use a one that is stable on my system, its called PTBSync. It does a
few other "organisational" things as well but I don't use them much.
Its a small app and I use it because it was the best atomic clock
synch program I found (and its free).

Before you visit the web site, a cautionary word; the author's web
site does IE security checks for possible Trojan vulnerabilities on
your system - HE TELLS YOU that he is doing this and explains why (to
bring these to your attention if you're vulnerable). Despite this,
some people might not like it - Norton kills the [java] files the web
page uses to perform the checks so I'm not worried by it. If anyone
_is_ concerned but wants to use the software (which I find good) let
me know and I'll e-mail you a copy (its freeware)

The URL is

http://kickme.to/elmue

and the software package is called PTBSync

Whats wrong with the Windows time adjustment in Control Panel?

Norman