wool jerseys?

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"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Sergal wool shorts with real leather chamois are a great idea. They

dry

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out after washing a lot faster that the Depends thick padding in many
modern riding shorts. I know what feminine protection feels like now.

If you have shorts with synthetic chamois that take longer to dry than

real

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leather, it's a pretty poor synthetic chamois. The fact that it takes

longer

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to dry means it's going to keep moisture while riding as well. That's

very

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bad. What brand are they?

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

I have a pair of Sugoi Lycra shorts that take forever to dry. They fit
well but the feminine protection like crotch pad tends to get caught on
the front of my seat when I sit back down after riding out of the saddle.

I have short legs in proportion to my height and it's hard to find riding
shorts that fit my waist but don't come down over my knees like knickers.

Maybe bib knickers? They will look like they are supposed
to extend past the knees, and the suspenders mean that
waist size is less critical.

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The advantage of real leather chamois is that it can be ridden comfortably
while still damp. After the initial body shock and retraction they warm up
and are nice and soft.

The disadvantage of Sergal and similar wool shorts is having to use
suspenders (braces) to keep them from falling down.

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Michael Press

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> ...
> I had a bunch of wool shorts, tights and leg warmers - till the

moths

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> found them.
Do not people use moth balls anymore?

They were in storage for a long time. They looked like chantilly lace.
After a while even mothballs give out.

Hmmm... <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep_dip>?

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Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia

On second thought maybe Lycra isn't all that bad....

Chas.

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I have a pair of Sugoi Lycra shorts that take forever to dry. They fit
well but the feminine protection like crotch pad tends to get caught

on

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the front of my seat when I sit back down after riding out of the

saddle.

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I have short legs in proportion to my height and it's hard to find

riding

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shorts that fit my waist but don't come down over my knees like

knickers.

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Maybe bib knickers? They will look like they are supposed
to extend past the knees, and the suspenders mean that
waist size is less critical.

--
Michael Press

I spent too many years pioneering the wearing of cycling togs to wear
knickers. I had to give too many cowboys in their pick-um-ups the finger
and chase after them when they slowed down to show off their manliness.
It's funny how a carload of a**holes will take off running when one crazy
guy on a bike comes charging after them!

I never wore knickers for cross country or telemark skiing, I'm not about
to for cycling. Riders in knickers remind me of the long bathing suits
from ~100 years ago; they were worn for modesty not any practical reason.

Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see any advantage in covering just
the tops of my calves. It's the antithesis of the leg warmers all the
wannabe dancers wore from their knees to their ankles a number of years
ago.

The only knickers I'm interested in are the kind that Victoria's Secret
sells and the ladies who wear them. ;-)

I have a nice set of classic Trek bibs. The only problem with bibs is in
my supernumerary state I have to make a lot of comfort stops and all of
the bibs I've seen come way up around the bottom of my chest. They should
make bibs with zippers or at least button holes in the front.

Thanks for the suggestion though...

Chas.

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On Nov 20, 11:50 am, Crescentius Vespasianus <[email hidden]>

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Any websites that sell good wool
jerseys? I'm just tired of freezing my
ass in synthetics that promise but don't
deliver.

you need to wear fleece. Its the best fabric available. It comes in
all thicknesses and it stays dry and comfortable no matter what. You
can get fleece underwear, mid-layers and jackets. and they are cheap.
Depending on how cold it is, you can wear some thin synthetic
underwear, a thin fleece layer, another thicker fleece vest and a
nylon jacket on top. You can add and eliminate layers as you please.
If you must wear wool, you can get a wool cashmire, or merino sweater
on sale at Marshals, Ross, or any discount store.

Last year after trying on at least a dozen different pairs of long riding
tights and bibs priced $100+, I bought several pairs of warm-up pants for
$15 each. They're black made of 50% cotton, 50% polyester and have a
fleecy inner surface. I was lucky to find some that fit nice and snug on
my legs and aren't too long. They're also pretty windproof. Also there's
no Depend pad to sit on.

Chas.

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On Nov 20, 11:50 am, Crescentius Vespasianus <[email hidden]>

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Any websites that sell good wool
jerseys? I'm just tired of freezing my
ass in synthetics that promise but don't
deliver.

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you need to wear fleece. Its the best fabric available. It comes in
all thicknesses and it stays dry and comfortable no matter what. You
can get fleece underwear, mid-layers and jackets. and they are cheap.
Depending on how cold it is, you can wear some thin synthetic
underwear, a thin fleece layer, another thicker fleece vest and a
nylon jacket on top. You can add and eliminate layers as you please.
If you must wear wool, you can get a wool cashmire, or merino sweater
on sale at Marshals, Ross, or any discount store.

Last year after trying on at least a dozen different pairs of long riding
tights and bibs priced $100+, I bought several pairs of warm-up pants for
$15 each. They're black made of 50% cotton, 50% polyester and have a
fleecy inner surface. I was lucky to find some that fit nice and snug on
my legs and aren't too long. They're also pretty windproof. Also there's
no Depend pad to sit on.

Chas.

campmor has a nifty warm up fleece bottom that's luxurios.
the list in a previous post HAD 4-5 2 packs wool socks at @ $10 but
that and the $16/$50 ski gloves were selling last summer and spring
not now. Now those bargains are gone gone gone.
Your doin xmas shopping?
Sheeeeeet, I mailed everything, bought at deep discount, out lastbweek.

On Nov 24, 9:56 am, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

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aka Andres Muro said:

On Nov 20, 11:50 am, Crescentius Vespasianus <[email hidden]>

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Any websites that sell good wool
jerseys? I'm just tired of freezing my
ass in synthetics that promise but don't
deliver.

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you need to wear fleece. Its the best fabric available. It comes in
all thicknesses and it stays dry and comfortable no matter what. You
can get fleece underwear, mid-layers and jackets. and they are cheap.
Depending on how cold it is, you can wear some thin synthetic
underwear, a thin fleece layer, another thicker fleece vest and a
nylon jacket on top. You can add and eliminate layers as you please.
If you must wear wool, you can get a wool cashmire, or merino sweater
on sale at Marshals, Ross, or any discount store.

If fleece is so great, why do the sheep wear wool instead?

And hoofs, and they run. We on the other hand use tennis shoes and
bicycles and other man made technology in many circumstances. I know
that wool is very good and a naturally occurring product. But fleece
has surpassed in terms of weightlessness's cost and confort.

Andres

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--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

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On Nov 20, 11:50 am, Crescentius Vespasianus <[email hidden]>

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Any websites that sell good wool
jerseys? I'm just tired of freezing my
ass in synthetics that promise but don't
deliver.

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you need to wear fleece. Its the best fabric available. It comes in
all thicknesses and it stays dry and comfortable no matter what. You
can get fleece underwear, mid-layers and jackets. and they are cheap.
Depending on how cold it is, you can wear some thin synthetic
underwear, a thin fleece layer, another thicker fleece vest and a
nylon jacket on top. You can add and eliminate layers as you please.
If you must wear wool, you can get a wool cashmire, or merino sweater
on sale at Marshals, Ross, or any discount store.

Last year after trying on at least a dozen different pairs of long riding
tights and bibs priced $100+, I bought several pairs of warm-up pants for
$15 each. They're black made of 50% cotton, 50% polyester and have a
fleecy inner surface. I was lucky to find some that fit nice and snug on
my legs and aren't too long. They're also pretty windproof. Also there's
no Depend pad to sit on.

Chas.

I bought cheap tights at target made of coolmax in the womens section.
I get the extra large. I cut the legs off and presto. I have both arms
and leg warmers. I cannot wear cycling shorts unless they are made of
cotton or coolmax. They feel itchy.I usually wear the seam facing out
and my biking buddies give me grief all the time.

Andres

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On Nov 20, 11:50 am, Crescentius Vespasianus <[email hidden]>
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> Any websites that sell good wool
> jerseys? I'm just tired of freezing my
> ass in synthetics that promise but don't
> deliver.

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you need to wear fleece. Its the best fabric available. It comes in
all thicknesses and it stays dry and comfortable no matter what. You
can get fleece underwear, mid-layers and jackets. and they are cheap.
Depending on how cold it is, you can wear some thin synthetic
underwear, a thin fleece layer, another thicker fleece vest and a
nylon jacket on top. You can add and eliminate layers as you please.
If you must wear wool, you can get a wool cashmire, or merino sweater
on sale at Marshals, Ross, or any discount store.

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Last year after trying on at least a dozen different pairs of long riding
tights and bibs priced $100+, I bought several pairs of warm-up pants for
$15 each. They're black made of 50% cotton, 50% polyester and have a
fleecy inner surface. I was lucky to find some that fit nice and snug on
my legs and aren't too long. They're also pretty windproof. Also there's
no Depend pad to sit on.

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Chas.

I bought cheap tights at target made of coolmax in the womens section.
I get the extra large. I cut the legs off and presto. I have both arms
and leg warmers. I cannot wear cycling shorts unless they are made of
cotton or coolmax. They feel itchy.I usually wear the seam facing out
and my biking buddies give me grief all the time.

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kids pajamas work for arm, and leg warmers. I have a spiderman.
nag nag nag. listen? how many times did I write buy the winter stiff
now last spring and summer?
nag nag nag 8-12 times?
now next summer....

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I have a pair of Sugoi Lycra shorts that take forever to dry. They fit
well but the feminine protection like crotch pad tends to get caught

on

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the front of my seat when I sit back down after riding out of the

saddle.

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I have short legs in proportion to my height and it's hard to find

riding

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shorts that fit my waist but don't come down over my knees like

knickers.

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Maybe bib knickers? They will look like they are supposed
to extend past the knees, and the suspenders mean that
waist size is less critical.

--
Michael Press

I spent too many years pioneering the wearing of cycling togs to wear
knickers. I had to give too many cowboys in their pick-um-ups the finger
and chase after them when they slowed down to show off their manliness.
It's funny how a carload of a**holes will take off running when one crazy
guy on a bike comes charging after them!

I never wore knickers for cross country or telemark skiing, I'm not about
to for cycling. Riders in knickers remind me of the long bathing suits
from ~100 years ago; they were worn for modesty not any practical reason.

Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see any advantage in covering just
the tops of my calves. It's the antithesis of the leg warmers all the
wannabe dancers wore from their knees to their ankles a number of years
ago.

The only knickers I'm interested in are the kind that Victoria's Secret
sells and the ladies who wear them. ;-)

I have a nice set of classic Trek bibs. The only problem with bibs is in
my supernumerary state I have to make a lot of comfort stops and all of
the bibs I've seen come way up around the bottom of my chest. They should
make bibs with zippers or at least button holes in the front.

Thanks for the suggestion though...

You are welcome. I addressed only practicalities,
and understand that there is more to the matter.

--
Michael Press

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> I have a pair of Sugoi Lycra shorts that take forever to dry. They

fit

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> well but the feminine protection like crotch pad tends to get

caught

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on

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> the front of my seat when I sit back down after riding out of the

saddle.

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>
> I have short legs in proportion to my height and it's hard to find

riding

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> shorts that fit my waist but don't come down over my knees like

knickers.

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Maybe bib knickers? They will look like they are supposed
to extend past the knees, and the suspenders mean that
waist size is less critical.

--
Michael Press

I spent too many years pioneering the wearing of cycling togs to wear
knickers. I had to give too many cowboys in their pick-um-ups the

finger

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and chase after them when they slowed down to show off their

manliness.

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It's funny how a carload of a**holes will take off running when one

crazy

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guy on a bike comes charging after them!

I never wore knickers for cross country or telemark skiing, I'm not

about

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to for cycling. Riders in knickers remind me of the long bathing suits
from ~100 years ago; they were worn for modesty not any practical

reason.

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Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see any advantage in covering

just

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the tops of my calves. It's the antithesis of the leg warmers all the
wannabe dancers wore from their knees to their ankles a number of

years

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ago.

The only knickers I'm interested in are the kind that Victoria's

Secret

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sells and the ladies who wear them. ;-)

I have a nice set of classic Trek bibs. The only problem with bibs is

in

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my supernumerary state I have to make a lot of comfort stops and all

of

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the bibs I've seen come way up around the bottom of my chest. They

should

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make bibs with zippers or at least button holes in the front.

Thanks for the suggestion though...

You are welcome. I addressed only practicalities,
and understand that there is more to the matter.

--
Michael Press

As the TV ad says "Gotta Go! Gotta Go! Gotta Go! ....!" ;-)

Uncle Chas.