wool jerseys?

Ozark Bicycle said:

On Nov 20, 2:00 pm, Tom <[email hidden]> wrote:

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I don't know; I would have to Google that. I do recall hearing reports
of them living near Barclay Square, though...

A nightingale sings in Barclay Square, but wasn't it "Copley Square"
in the Patty Duke Show lyric?

The nightingale sang in *Berkeley Square*.

Patty's identical cousin Cathy had lived in *Barclay Square* among many
other places.

Tom Nakashima said:

"Ozark Bicycle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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of them living near Barclay Square, though...

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A nightingale sings in Barclay Square, but wasn't it "Copley Square"
in the Patty Duke Show lyric?

Meet Cathy, who's lived most everywhere,
From Zanzibar to Barclay Square.
But Patty's only seen the sight.
A girl can see from Brooklyn Heights --
What a crazy pair!
-tom

Thank you, Tom!

Diablo Scott said:

Ozark Bicycle said:

Tom said:

I don't know; I would have to Google that. I do recall hearing reports
of them living near Barclay Square, though...

Quoted message said:

A nightingale sings in Barclay Square, but wasn't it "Copley Square"
in the Patty Duke Show lyric?

The nightingale sang in *Berkeley Square*.

I stand corrected!

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Patty's identical cousin Cathy had lived in *Barclay Square* among many
other places.

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I have some very thin wool T-shirts that are very comfortable on a hot
day.

WHAT BRAND AND STYLE ARE THEY?

On Nov 20, 12:50 pm, Crescentius Vespasianus <[email hidden]>

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Any websites that sell good wool
jerseys? I'm just tired of freezing my
ass in synthetics that promise but don't
deliver.

Contact your local cross race team and see if they can get you a wool
team jersey at cost. Usually around $100. My neighborhood boys race
for Yazoo brewery and not only have the *coolest* vintage look
jerseys, they even got old school wool cycling caps for when they're
not racing with a helmet on. Thanks for reminding me! I gotta get one
of the caps.

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Ozark Bicycle

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On Nov 20, 12:50 pm, Crescentius Vespasianus <[email hidden]>

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Any websites that sell good wool
jerseys? I'm just tired of freezing my
ass in synthetics that promise but don't
deliver.

Try:

http://www.swobo.com

http://www.ewnr.com

http://www.ibexwear.com

I still have a small collection of "old skool" wool jerseys from way
back. They are wonderful and last a l-o-n-g time if properly cared for
(hand wash, air dry, anti-moth strategy in the off-season, etc.).

The current prices are a bit staggering, though. 🙁

Yes, the prices. I was given an Ibex jersey.
It is excellent. Warm in cool, warm on descents,
not hot when I am hammering. Very wide comfort zone.
I wear it with a silk jersey underneath.

--
Michael Press

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Diablo Scott said:

Ozark Bicycle said:

On Nov 20, 2:00 pm, Tom <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I don't know; I would have to Google that. I do recall hearing reports
of them living near Barclay Square, though...

A nightingale sings in Barclay Square, but wasn't it "Copley Square"
in the Patty Duke Show lyric?

The nightingale sang in *Berkeley Square*.

Patty's identical cousin Cathy had lived in *Barclay Square* among many
other places.

"Berkley Square"

--
Michael Press

Michael Press said:

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Diablo Scott said:

Ozark Bicycle said:

On Nov 20, 2:00 pm, Tom <[email hidden]> wrote:
> I don't know; I would have to Google that. I do recall hearing reports
> of them living near Barclay Square, though...
>
A nightingale sings in Barclay Square, but wasn't it "Copley Square"
in the Patty Duke Show lyric?

The nightingale sang in *Berkeley Square*.

Patty's identical cousin Cathy had lived in *Barclay Square* among many
other places.

"Berkley Square"

Michael -

In the movie it was "Berkeley", while in the song it was "Berkley".

The song title used "Berkley" perhaps as a contraction of "Berkeley"
("Berk'ley"😉 due to the necessity of keeping the meter of the song
(which would have been compromised if sung as "Berk-uh-ley"😉.

But, hey, the only musical instrument I can play is the stereo, so take
it with a grain of salt. Or a salt lick...

Cheers,

Tom

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I have some very thin wool T-shirts that are very comfortable on a hot
day.

WHAT BRAND AND STYLE ARE THEY?

Yikes. Don't shoot! I have short sleeve and long sleeve crew necks.
They are "Windsor Wear," made in Canada and purchased for very
reasonable prices from Sierra Trading.

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I'm sure wool clothes work but as Ozark said, the price is
unbelievable. Wool must be the newest in thing to have and the
sellers figure they can charge anything they want because there are
lots of fools willing to pay anything.

Wool was expensive 30 years ago when I bought my wool cycling togs. I
just had Kucharik put new elastic and chamois in two pairs of wool
shorts last year, so they're good for another 30 years now. :-)

Jerseys and tights seem to be holding up well also, apart from some
stains.

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If you just want to try wool clothes while biking, consider getting
wool sweaters from the Good Will store. Or if you have to have new,
Campmor and other camping places sell wool crewneck underwear for not
a lot of money.

You can often find inexpensive wool jerseys from obscure amateur teams
on eBay. I've gotten several for < US$20 that way. Shorts and tights
seem somewhat rarer.

--

John ([email hidden])

Tom said:

Mr. Kucharik still sells wool and has been in business since dirt was new.

I don't think their prices are outrageous and I know their quality is
excellent. I've been buying from him since the early 70's - never had an
article I wasn't happy with.

http://www.kucharikclothing.com/all-wool-c-43.html?osCsid=9ef02e898101e4a27b0854ee5c8654a3

And he's willing to repair your old wool togs as well.

--

John ([email hidden])

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I'm curious if a very think wool t shirt is also a good
idea in HOT weather as well?

I have a "tropical weight" Protogs wool jersey. The fabric is about as
thick as an ordinary t-shirt. It's pretty comfortable up to the mid 80s
(F), but beyond that it's a bit too much.

--

John ([email hidden])

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Tom said:

Michael Press said:

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Diablo Scott said:

Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> On Nov 20, 2:00 pm, Tom <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> I don't know; I would have to Google that. I do recall hearing reports
>> of them living near Barclay Square, though...
>>
> A nightingale sings in Barclay Square, but wasn't it "Copley Square"
> in the Patty Duke Show lyric?
>
The nightingale sang in *Berkeley Square*.

Patty's identical cousin Cathy had lived in *Barclay Square* among many
other places.

"Berkley Square"

Michael -

In the movie it was "Berkeley", while in the song it was "Berkley".

The song title used "Berkley" perhaps as a contraction of "Berkeley"

No. In London it is Berkley Square.
<http://www.londonancestor.com/leighs/square-berkley.htm>

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("Berk'ley"😉 due to the necessity of keeping the meter of the song
(which would have been compromised if sung as "Berk-uh-ley"😉.

But, hey, the only musical instrument I can play is the stereo, so take
it with a grain of salt. Or a salt lick...

Proper song title
'A Nightingale Sang In Berkley Square'
<http://www.tsrocks.com/v/vera_lynn_texts/a_nightingale_sang_in_berkeley_square.html>

--
Michael Press

Michael Press said:

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Tom said:

Michael Press said:

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<[email hidden]>,
Diablo Scott <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
>> On Nov 20, 2:00 pm, Tom <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>> I don't know; I would have to Google that. I do recall hearing reports
>>> of them living near Barclay Square, though...
>>>
>> A nightingale sings in Barclay Square, but wasn't it "Copley Square"
>> in the Patty Duke Show lyric?
>>
> The nightingale sang in *Berkeley Square*.
>
> Patty's identical cousin Cathy had lived in *Barclay Square* among many
> other places.
"Berkley Square"

Michael -

In the movie it was "Berkeley", while in the song it was "Berkley".

The song title used "Berkley" perhaps as a contraction of "Berkeley"

No. In London it is Berkley Square.
<http://www.londonancestor.com/leighs/square-berkley.htm>

Ah, so it is. I'm glad I got up today - I learned something.

Thanks,

Tom

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Quoted message said:

("Berk'ley"😉 due to the necessity of keeping the meter of the song
(which would have been compromised if sung as "Berk-uh-ley"😉.

But, hey, the only musical instrument I can play is the stereo, so take
it with a grain of salt. Or a salt lick...

Proper song title
'A Nightingale Sang In Berkley Square'
<http://www.tsrocks.com/v/vera_lynn_texts/a_nightingale_sang_in_berkeley_square.html>

aka Lewis Campbell said:

On Nov 20, 12:50 pm, Crescentius Vespasianus <[email hidden]>

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Any websites that sell good wool
jerseys? I'm just tired of freezing my
ass in synthetics that promise but don't
deliver.

I'm kind of 'budget minded' and the last time I looked for wool
'cycling' jerseys I got a bad case of sticker shock.

Instead, I decided to check E-bay for 'mens wool jersey' and found
that I could get a nice jersey in the $10.00 - $20.00 range.

OK, so it doesn't have rear pockets but it feels nice and works like a
cycling jersey would.

Rear pockets are annoying, since they bunch up against the seat back
while riding.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

"Tom" <[email hidden]> a écrit:

Quoted message said:

In the movie it was "Berkeley", while in the song it was "Berkley".

Quoted message said:

The song title used "Berkley" perhaps as a contraction of "Berkeley"
("Berk'ley"😉 due to the necessity of keeping the meter of the song (which
would have been compromised if sung as "Berk-uh-ley"😉.

In the local pronunciation, Berkeley has only two sylables.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Square

The song, the square, and the Gloucestershire town all share the same
spelling.

James Thomson

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Why don't you just wear heavier synthetic jerseys? Or several
layers? I'm sure wool clothes work but as Ozark said, the price is
unbelievable.

IIRC, good wool jerseys retailed for $35-40 in the mid-1980s.
According to the inflation calculator at Westegg.com, $35 in "1985
dollars" is $65.49 in "2006 dollars". so, the price of a wool jersey
has effectively doubled (adjusted for inflation) in the past ~20
years. I would consider a new wool jersey if the retail price was
$65-70; but at $130+, never!

You've pretty much nailed the reason a wool jersey costs so much then. Add
the inflation calculator to the devaluation of the dollar that's happened
during the same time frame, and you probably get darn close to the $130
current pricing.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

"Ozark Bicycle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Nov 20, 12:50 pm, Crescentius Vespasianus <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Any websites that sell good wool
jerseys? I'm just tired of freezing my
ass in synthetics that promise but don't
deliver.

Why don't you just wear heavier synthetic jerseys? Or several
layers? I'm sure wool clothes work but as Ozark said, the price is
unbelievable.

IIRC, good wool jerseys retailed for $35-40 in the mid-1980s.
According to the inflation calculator at Westegg.com, $35 in "1985
dollars" is $65.49 in "2006 dollars". so, the price of a wool jersey
has effectively doubled (adjusted for inflation) in the past ~20
years. I would consider a new wool jersey if the retail price was
$65-70; but at $130+, never!

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Wool must be the newest in thing to have and the
sellers figure they can charge anything they want because there are
lots of fools willing to pay anything. Great business if you can get
it. Rivendell follows this model. Colnago follows this model. Trek
too with its $7000 Madone bikes.

If you just want to try wool clothes while biking, consider getting
wool sweaters from the Good Will store. Or if you have to have new,
Campmor and other camping places sell wool crewneck underwear for not
a lot of money.

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I've been thinking abt switching back to wool as well.

If you read the Rivendell catalog they seem to swear by
it

I'm waiting for someone to claim that wool shorts with real leather chamois
are a great idea. Since Rivendell has now been brought up...

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

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I've been thinking abt switching back to wool as well.

If you read the Rivendell catalog they seem to swear by
it

I'm waiting for someone to claim that wool shorts with real leather chamois
are a great idea. Since Rivendell has now been brought up...

Yeah, right. For my money, "fake" chamois and lycra shorts, as opposed
to the "real" things, are the best improvements in cycling equipment
since the pneumatic tire. Those old shorts are horrible.

Yeah, wool is just what you need in 100+ degree temperatures.

--

David L. Johnson

When you are up to your ass in alligators, it's hard to remember that
your initial objective was to drain the swamp.
-- LBJ

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WHAT BRAND AND STYLE ARE THEY?

Yikes. Don't shoot! I have short sleeve and long sleeve crew necks.
They are "Windsor Wear," made in Canada and purchased for very
reasonable prices from Sierra Trading.

Sorry abt the caps

Cap key was on accidentally