Why does America change country names?



British Isles = all the range of isles in the group

United Kingdom = 4 Countries and all of the offshore isles. total population 58.7million people

England 49.1mil, Scotland 5mil, Wales 2.9 mil, Northern Ireland 1.6 mil, others .1mill

Two official languages: English (major) and Welsh
 
dmskin said:
Two official languages: English (major) and Welsh
Wrong...

Scots Gaelic is spoken throughout the Western Isles and is being taught all over Scotland. To many Scots it is thier first languange.

Manx and Cornish are enjoying a renaisance at the moment...
 
Brian Cotgrove said:
G'day MountainPro, mate don't fret, you'll not be the first one to get jacked off by the long winter of the old country.

I was reading research that there is more depression amongst the residents of the Northern Hemisphere than those living in the sunnier climates of the world?

It is the lack of good sunshine that brings on this melancoly, whereas those living in places like Queensland, Australia are much less likely to suffer the same problem.

The answer is quite simple get yourself down to "Australia House" and make an application to migrate here. I can recommend "Queensland", for obvious reasons I have been here for fourty years, and would not live anywhere else in the world.

I'm sure the Southerners (New South Wales, Victoria, South Auatralia) would disagree with me, but they don't really know what their missing. There must be something good about the place as they are moving up here in droves at least 10.000 a month was the latest figures.

If your House in the UK is worth 350.000 pounds then look at twice that sort of value here, that would equate to about AU$700.000 which would buy you a fairly substantial bit of property here, as well as a new Carbon Fibre Steed, to get out and train on.

The temperatures here are really very mild, in winter, being our dryest time of the year with night's going down to maybe 8C but usually not that cool and daytime temp's of around 22-26C, it is ideal weather to ride and train. This goes from late March till early September, with June being the mid winter time and the coolest.

Summer which we are "in at present" is a bit hot, with the daytimer temp's of between 27-34C most days from November till late February, the bit that knocks most people over is the humidity which today is about 80% and varies with the prevailing wind directions and the current rainfall.

The hottest time is from early December till late February and that is when we get the most rainfall, we hope? Of course we are at the mercy of the weather gods for our rainfal, and it does create a problem, as we are the dryest continent on the face of the planet.

The area around Brisbane is surrounded by hills, to the South and fifty kilometres away are the Tamborine Mountains, they are the hinterland of the Gold Coast this is where Bobbie McEwen comes from. To the West are the continuation of the McPherson Ranges which are part of the Greeat Dividing Range.

Going West young man will get you to Mount Glorius about fourty five kilometres and is a good climb both ways and will test most of those who consider themselve mountain goats, so of course will Mount Tamborine. If you continue over Mt. Glorious you descend to the Brisbane Valley and if you are up to it can complete a ride of around 185kilometres back to Brisbane.

The terrrain is undulating from Brisbane to both mountain ranges and if you go North you come to the range of mountains that are known as the Sunshine Coast hintrerland, climbing up to the Villages of Melaney, or Montville, lovely little eateries there ready for the return trip to Brisbane.

That ride will put 200 kilometres in your legs and a gang of us used to do those trips on alternate weekends. One week North, next week South, and the third week West, this was as well as racing Saturday afternoon at either club or open events.

Most of this has changed with the new, younger riders, who don't do the long rides like the older fellows used to, they prefer to ride a gut busting dash on Saturday morning of around 110 kilometres at anything from 28-35 Kph average pace. Too bloody quick for an older codger like me, but we have a couple of fifty year old's who do it, and kick butt at the same time.

Mate there are so many positives to living here it's a wonder why our population is only 20 Million, just think what talent we could inflict on the world if there were 100 million of us, now that's scary stuff.

The "Tour de France" again, goes to Australia, said the commentator, this is Joe Blow's tenth win, when will these people give up being so good, even the other country's won't play them at Footabll, Cricket, or Table Tennis, it must be the Water or something like that.

I'l stop dreaming and wish you a speedy recovery from you melancoly?

Keep the wheels in motion, and don't look back, unless it's to see who you dropped on that last climb? TBC
cheers mate, when i have a few moments i wil respond more fully...
 
MountainPro said:
i have never been to Aus but i would imagine if i lived there i would be a whole lot fitter. The amount of days i have woken up recently and looked out side to see sleet and strong winds is just depressing. I get on the turbo and only last half an hour through sheer boredom...

I would love to live in a sunny country...

actually i maybe a defector pretty soon. the wife and i are visitng California this summer. She has family there and they have asked us to move out permanently....

i just saw on the internet what our 3 bedroom semi equates to in Calif (price wise)...4 bedrooms, a pool, jacuzzi, huge garden etc etc...and sunshine..

i need help to get these silly thoughts out of my head..
Please don’t visit MY state, we have enough left wing America hating douche bags invading MY state, besides, the sun won’t do your bad complexion any good.
 
MountainPro said:
Wrong...

Scots Gaelic is spoken throughout the Western Isles and is being taught all over Scotland. To many Scots it is thier first languange.

Manx and Cornish are enjoying a renaisance at the moment...

I don't think so, if you look on official government line on languages, English and Welsh are listed.

Well I couldn't find anyone of my Scotish friends who knew Gaelic it. I am not saying that they do not or should not exist. All I am saying on a government line their is only 2 official languages.

The sooner England becomes independent and has its own government the better.

dmskin
 
dmskin said:
I don't think so, if you look on official government line on languages, English and Welsh are listed.

Well I couldn't find anyone of my Scotish friends who knew Gaelic it. I am not saying that they do not or should not exist. All I am saying on a government line their is only 2 official languages.

The sooner England becomes independent and has its own government the better.

dmskin

dmskin, should read "DIPSTICK"? Pull yer heed in laddy? Get back in yer bog?
Yer a phillistine, wot are ye'

TBC
 
Brian Cotgrove said:
dmskin, should read "DIPSTICK"? Pull yer heed in laddy? Get back in yer bog?
Yer a phillistine, wot are ye'

TBC


Dipstick - nope I don't think so. I'm all in support of the Scotish and Welsh to have freedom as long as England is allowed to be free. And for people not to mix up British with English.

Phillistine nope. Just a strong believer that we should be allowed to embrace other cultures including our own. Peacefully and with respect.
 
dmskin said:
Dipstick - nope I don't think so. I'm all in support of the Scotish and Welsh to have freedom as long as England is allowed to be free. And for people not to mix up British with English.

Phillistine nope. Just a strong believer that we should be allowed to embrace other cultures including our own. Peacefully and with respect.
Scotland and Wales haven't got a cat in hells chance of making it as a independent fiscal ecomomies and all that it entails. They live on handouts now. Within a matter of hours they would become third world countries, and as for Northern Ireland, they go through money faster than the war in Iraq is chewing yours. It's just a waccy-baccy pipe dream fuelled by alcohol.
 
FredC said:
Scotland and Wales haven't got a cat in hells chance of making it as a independent fiscal ecomomies and all that it entails. They live on handouts now. Within a matter of hours they would become third world countries, and as for Northern Ireland, they go through money faster than the war in Iraq is chewing yours. It's just a waccy-baccy pipe dream fuelled by alcohol.


I agree, but explain that to them. It just pisses me off that they blame all of their problems on the English.

And, why is it that the English are A not allowed to have its own parliament? And B brainwash into BEING British and not English (Ask a Scot or Welsh person, and they would not call themselves British first). I'm not talking here about fascism or excluding people from joining in.

However I think that the English should be allowed to Re-discover their culture. And yes I know their are bad parts of it (like any culture) but also very good parts.
 
dmskin said:
I agree, but explain that to them. It just pisses me off that they blame all of their problems on the English.

And, why is it that the English are A not allowed to have its own parliament? And B brainwash into BEING British and not English (Ask a Scot or Welsh person, and they would not call themselves British first). I'm not talking here about fascism or excluding people from joining in.

However I think that the English should be allowed to Re-discover their culture. And yes I know their are bad parts of it (like any culture) but also very good parts.
Can't say I ever heard of that "movement/idea"-the liberation of England :confused: They are the one's who set it up, no?
 
Ruedy said:
England, United Kingdom, Britain, Great Britain.........Which is it? And, is it really that "great"?
It is confusing but also kind of embarrassing not to know where these places are. I guess it's "par for the course" when one (I) lives in the largest (inhabitable), most powerful, militarily, industrial nation in the W.Hemisphere. When one resides at Apollo, there aren't many occasions to warrant oneself peering below the clouds.
 
Espada9 said:
Please don’t visit MY state, we have enough left wing America hating douche bags invading MY state, besides, the sun won’t do your bad complexion any good.

The bankrupt state of california.
 
davidmc said:
Can't say I ever heard of that "movement/idea"-the liberation of England :confused: They are the one's who set it up, no?

Yes and No. Iit was sort of a treaty between England and Scotland form a union call the grand union (1707) (actually one of the first ever flags of the US, included this. The red stripes were the same, however instead of the stars you have the Grand union flag. then the other countries were added (around 1801).

However under Victoria the English identity lived on within British patriotism, the creed of a world-spanning empire. And have been ever since loosing their culture.

Scotland has got its own laws and Parliament, and generally companies north of the border are renamed like (British Gas, becomes Scotish Gas). People are starting to question why Scotish MPs are allowed to vote on English matters and starting to embrace being English again.
 
Espada9 said:
Please don’t visit MY state, we have enough left wing America hating douche bags invading MY state, besides, the sun won’t do your bad complexion any good.
hey **** piece, im comin over whether you like it or not...the sun may burn my skin an dthe yanks may get on my tits and if i see you i'll be sure to give you a kick in the gonads and all will be right in the world...
 
dmskin said:
I don't think so, if you look on official government line on languages, English and Welsh are listed.
well the governement are OFFICIALLY wrong, and it wouldnt be the first time thats happened neither buddy...

gealic is thriving and alive and taught all over Scotland from the Borders to the northerns isles...

dont tell me what does and doesnt go on in my own front garden...if you dont have Scottish friends that speak gealic then its YOUR loss.
 
MountainPro said:
there is a bill in parliament to make Scots' Gaelic an official language in the UK. There are 60,000 people in scotland who speak Gaelic and you can actually get your passport in Gaelic if you are a speaker....how official does it have to be to be recognised?

Sorry if you got me wrong I wasn't making a judgement I was only stating fact. In fact I wish them good luck.
 
dmskin said:
Sorry if you got me wrong I wasn't making a judgement I was only stating fact. In fact I wish them good luck.
nah, i wasnt having a go at you...just the ******** thats floating about in the ether..
 
MountainPro said:
there is a bill in parliament to make Scots' Gaelic an official language in the UK. There are 60,000 people in scotland who speak Gaelic and you can actually get your passport in Gaelic if you are a speaker....how official does it have to be to be recognised?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4227947.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4238991.stm
There should only be ONE official language per country...Otherwise, it gets confusing and you have to put up with menus in multiple languages at the ATM machine etc...Shouldn't be too hard for those 60k people to learn a real language...
 
zapper said:
There should only be ONE officia language per country...Otherwise, it gets confusing and you have to put up with menus in multiple languages at the ATM machine etc...Shouldn't be too hard for those 60k people to learn a real language...
wrong wrong and err...wrong..

there is no law that says there should only be one official language per country. Gaelic had been spoken in the celtic lands since before the domination of the English language....dont you believe in keeping a traditional language alive?

Should the French give up Breton and the English give up Cornish?

No, i am a believer in tradition and i support the minority who still wish to speak in the traditional tongue.