Why does America change country names?



zapper said:
we stole a stuffy language, improved it and made it our own. :D
In all seriousness, I doubt anyone in the entire world would agree with that statement.

The English language has not been improved by American bastardisation.

great words have been lost and we have gained a multitude of mind numbingly stupid phrases thanks to you yankians.

spellings have been changed, meanings have been changed....its all got to stop.
 
MountainPro said:
ah, Mr Zapper is back, yippee..

Portsmouth, Norfolk, Houston, New York, Glasgow, whatever, its all stolen from the Great British....you prononce it how we pronounce it (thats not an observation, its an instruction)...
Don't get carried away. Glasgee surely? Jesus you get to be the City of Culture, and now it's Glasgow.
Have you really done our sauce dispensing pneumatic contraption that holds two gallons. You've sorted out the viscosity and thixotropics of the sauces with the makers? Jesus I am impressed. And there was I thinking you spent all day posting to wankers across the world. Just think how much sauce the Murkians consume. Come on laddie, Let's fill the world full of sauce. I'm deadly serious.
 
FredC said:
Don't get carried away. Glasgee surely? Jesus you get to be the City of Culture, and now it's Glasgow.
Have you really done our sauce dispensing pneumatic contraption that holds two gallons. You've sorted out the viscosity and thixotropics of the sauces with the makers? Jesus I am impressed. And there was I thinking you spent all day posting to wankers across the world. Just think how much sauce the Murkians consume. Come on laddie, Let's fill the world full of sauce. I'm deadly serious.
yes, i rmember the fonds days of Glesga and Edinburgh....now its all Glasgow and Edinboro'

actually, if you really want to impress your scottish friends, you should pronounce it Edinburra. Just like that, please dont go calling it Edinboro'. That just makes you sound even more stupid that you look.

Edinburra...easy, isnt it?

Yes, the viscosity regulator and pressure generators are all in working order. It dishes out 18 of your fine imperial pints (a typical Yankie hot-dog serving) and comes in four (count them, four) fab colours. Sunset Orange, Oriental Blue, British Racing Green and Hint of Summer.

the British Racing Green colour has shiny chrome trim just like the little Lotus Elise.

Oh Bollocks, just remembered....i am back at work tomorrow. :(
 
MountainPro said:
yes, i rmember the fonds days of Glesga and Edinburgh....now its all Glasgow and Edinboro'

actually, if you really want to impress your scottish friends, you should pronounce it Edinburra. Just like that, please dont go calling it Edinboro'. That just makes you sound even more stupid that you look.

Edinburra...easy, isnt it?

Yes, the viscosity regulator and pressure generators are all in working order. It dishes out 18 of your fine imperial pints (a typical Yankie hot-dog serving) and comes in four (count them, four) fab colours. Sunset Orange, Oriental Blue, British Racing Green and Hint of Summer.

the British Racing Green colour has shiny chrome trim just like the little Lotus Elise.

Oh Bollocks, just remembered....i am back at work tomorrow. :(
Yere a disgrace, giving classes te Glasweegians lessons in Morningside dialect. Shame on ye. The next thing is that you might be supporting Hearts or Hibs.
 
zapper said:
Hey Brain...uh I mean brian...I for one am sick of you "foeignerieriers" not spelling the ENGLISH language "correcltitiy"...A monkey would make more sense that you do. Anyway, we just did what we do best. we stole a stuffy language, improved it and made it our own. If you feel froggy...jump ole chap. BTW while you are attempting to correct my pronunciation of our ENGLISH language then...you'll be looking at my rear wheel :D

Hey Zap baby, I wondered if you would pick up on my typographicals, well son you have passed the first test, I will send you another soon. Mind you laddy, you'll have to be on your toes to keep up?

If you cannot, do not be allarmed, you will not be the first to slip away into oblivion trying to match it with the best.

We know all about you Merkain fellows, steal this, steal that, cannot put claim to something of your own now, can you. Tut Tut, blood pressure rising, banging the keys are we, naughty, naughty?

As far as looking at rear wheels is concerned come over to OZ and we will see which rear wheel, who will be looking at. You will not be the first younger man who has his fat ****, well and truly kicked by a "Division Seven Veteran", as many riders from different country's have found out, to their shagrine?

Most of you Merkain's, could not ride out of sight, on a dark night?

There again, Most Brit's can wup your lilly livered Merkain arses anyway, do not bring Mr. Armstrong into this discussion either, he has nothing to do with you and me, sonny? One thing I know for certain both you and he will not be riding when you or he is my age, and that is a fact?

Keep the wheels in motion and don't look back unless it's to see who you dropped on that last cloimb? TBC
 
Brian Cotgrove said:
Hey Zap baby, I wondered if you would pick up on my typographicals, well son you have passed the first test, I will send you another soon. Mind you laddy, you'll have to be on your toes to keep up?

If you cannot, do not be allarmed, you will not be the first to slip away into oblivion trying to match it with the best.

We know all about you Merkain fellows, steal this, steal that, cannot put claim to something of your own now, can you. Tut Tut, blood pressure rising, banging the keys are we, naughty, naughty?

As far as looking at rear wheels is concerned come over to OZ and we will see which rear wheel, who will be looking at. You will not be the first younger man who has his fat ****, well and truly kicked by a "Division Seven Veteran", as many riders from different country's have found out, to their shagrine?

Most of you Merkain's, could not ride out of sight, on a dark night?

There again, Most Brit's can wup your lilly livered Merkain arses anyway, do not bring Mr. Armstrong into this discussion either, he has nothing to do with you and me, sonny? One thing I know for certain both you and he will not be riding when you or he is my age, and that is a fact?

Keep the wheels in motion and don't look back unless it's to see who you dropped on that last cloimb? TBC


Brian,

You've stumbled on to a subject which has fascinated me for years.
Aussie success at sport.
It seems to me that we now live in an Australian era - Cricket, Swimming, Rugby, Cycling.
In these sports alone, the Aussies are totally dominant.
What is the secret ?

I have read about the Aussie Institute of Sport and how it was set up in the early 1970's.
Some people apportion the subsequent sporting success to this initiative but Australia was always successful even before this was setup. (Can't recall Rod Laver or Dawn Fraser or Herb Elliot having such facilities).

So what, in your estimation, is the reason for all this sporting success ?
 
limerickman said:
Brian,

You've stumbled on to a subject which has fascinated me for years.
Aussie success at sport.
It seems to me that we now live in an Australian era - Cricket, Swimming, Rugby, Cycling.
In these sports alone, the Aussies are totally dominant.
What is the secret ?

I have read about the Aussie Institute of Sport and how it was set up in the early 1970's.
Some people apportion the subsequent sporting success to this initiative but Australia was always successful even before this was setup. (Can't recall Rod Laver or Dawn Fraser or Herb Elliot having such facilities).

So what, in your estimation, is the reason for all this sporting success ?

G'day Limerickman, Like a true politicain I'll answer your question with another question. "How Long Is A Piece Of string", only kidding.

I will attempt to encapsulate in a couple of paragraphs my opinion for what it's worth.

Australia is a dominant factor for sure, in so many arena's, mateship, the team, who knows what drives them, the wearing of the "Baggy Green Cap" on the cricket field, the "Green and Gold' on other occasions, it's what every kid that has seen his hero do, like the old fashioned comic hero superman, children relate to this prowess and want to be able to emulate their hero/hero's.

Yes not only do we have the "AIS" (Australian Institute Of Sport) but also State run academy's too, this enables those who show promise at an earlier age to get the essential coaching to encourage their talents in the various sports.

Having said that, we have I suppose what could be refered to as an underlying passion for any sporting activity, and being the "Great Outdoor Country" this comes to the fore in so many different ways.

The schol children are encouraged to participate in all sorts of sporting activity from Cricket, Football (Rugby, three codes, and the true Football, Round Ball Game as you know the most popular in the world today), swimming, athletics, gymnastics, the list is endless. These games are encouraged because of the team activity of the school ground.

As for swimming, we are a Sun and Surf culture too, most Australians apart from those who live a long way inland, spend a lot of time on the beach and also participate in the associated activities, Surfing, Swimming, Lifesaving, Iron Man and Women, Beach Volley Ball etc.

While a lot of people have a swimming pool in the back yard it is essential for the obvious safety reasons, to learn to swim, most every parent want's a "Thorpedo" in the family, most wouldn't mind and the swimming clubs are very proud of their particular champions. My three sons were State representatives, but attained the age of mid teens and found the glamour of the black line couldn't compare with the tanned line of the female form?
It was of course their choice and I didn't push them any further as they started to swim competitively at five years of age and with ten years of competition they deserved a rest.

As far as Cycling sports, Australia has always had good competitors, since the days of "Danny Clarke" (Excellent European Six Day Rider) who incidentally, can still kick **** big time and he's in his fifty's. I seem to remember reading just recently he's hanging up his competitive wheels, a lot of guys sighed a sigh of releif too, when they heard that.

The other "Gitanes" take off to try their luck abroad, and it was guys like, "Phil Anderson" who kicked it off so as to speak, followed by the current crop of talent plying their trade in Europe.

Both Male and Female Riders are good on the world stage as the results of the Olympics show and it doesn't stop there as there are another bunch always coming through, this applies not only in cycling but across all sports.

Young "Ryan Bailey" the "Kentucky Fried King" loves to do his customary wheelies on the track and it's exciting to watch him in action, he started in BMX, so did Robbie McEwan, what is it that drives these young men.

I personally think it's the will and passion that comes from inside, the heart, the dogged determination to get out there and show 'em. Incidentally Ryan Bailey has been touted, because he advocated the type of fuel he consumes, being fast food, (that's why he's so quick) he may be signing to be sponsored by one of the leaders in that field, at the moment it's a big secret and I can only guess but "KFC" might be on his suit of lights?

Australians have always had a "Larakin Image" Hard Drinking, Hard Playing, image, Irreverent to a degree, some might say almost irresponsible, but deep down they are extremely patriotic, they love their country with a passion, just see the tear in the eye as they stand on the dais and listen to the National Anthem.

All this born out of a "Multicultural Society' with a "Fantastic Gene Pool" that is prepared to stand up and be counted at any time.
The Heart, is what possibly gives us the edge, I say "US" with the "Utmost Humility and Respecrt" of course, as I too like to ride the coattails of their success.

I'm a proud Australian although only a recent import, I've only had my knees brown for Fourty Years, but I'm one of the lucky bastards, and I don't mind admitting it either.

I'm sorry if that seems a long couple of paragraphs, but it really is a very complex subject, let's hope that in the season 2005 we'll see a lot more winning by the boys from down under. I will go out on a limb here to say watch out for Brad McGee during "Le Tour" for the "Overall Gong", sorry "Lance"?

Just before closing my other tip is "Mark Webber" in the GP season starting in March, sorry Michael?

Keep the wheels in motion, and don't look back unles it's to see who you dropped on that last climb? TBC
 
Brian Cotgrove said:
G'day Limerickman, Like a true politicain I'll answer your question with another question. "How Long Is A Piece Of string", only kidding.

I will attempt to encapsulate in a couple of paragraphs my opinion for what it's worth.

Australia is a dominant factor for sure, in so many arena's, mateship, the team, who knows what drives them, the wearing of the "Baggy Green Cap" on the cricket field, the "Green and Gold' on other occasions, it's what every kid that has seen his hero do, like the old fashioned comic hero superman, children relate to this prowess and want to be able to emulate their hero/hero's.

Yes not only do we have the "AIS" (Australian Institute Of Sport) but also State run academy's too, this enables those who show promise at an earlier age to get the essential coaching to encourage their talents in the various sports.

Having said that, we have I suppose what could be refered to as an underlying passion for any sporting activity, and being the "Great Outdoor Country" this comes to the fore in so many different ways.

The schol children are encouraged to participate in all sorts of sporting activity from Cricket, Football (Rugby, three codes, and the true Football, Round Ball Game as you know the most popular in the world today), swimming, athletics, gymnastics, the list is endless. These games are encouraged because of the team activity of the school ground.

As for swimming, we are a Sun and Surf culture too, most Australians apart from those who live a long way inland, spend a lot of time on the beach and also participate in the associated activities, Surfing, Swimming, Lifesaving, Iron Man and Women, Beach Volley Ball etc.

While a lot of people have a swimming pool in the back yard it is essential for the obvious safety reasons, to learn to swim, most every parent want's a "Thorpedo" in the family, most wouldn't mind and the swimming clubs are very proud of their particular champions. My three sons were State representatives, but attained the age of mid teens and found the glamour of the black line couldn't compare with the tanned line of the female form?
It was of course their choice and I didn't push them any further as they started to swim competitively at five years of age and with ten years of competition they deserved a rest.

As far as Cycling sports, Australia has always had good competitors, since the days of "Danny Clarke" (Excellent European Six Day Rider) who incidentally, can still kick **** big time and he's in his fifty's. I seem to remember reading just recently he's hanging up his competitive wheels, a lot of guys sighed a sigh of releif too, when they heard that.

The other "Gitanes" take off to try their luck abroad, and it was guys like, "Phil Anderson" who kicked it off so as to speak, followed by the current crop of talent plying their trade in Europe.

Both Male and Female Riders are good on the world stage as the results of the Olympics show and it doesn't stop there as there are another bunch always coming through, this applies not only in cycling but across all sports.

Young "Ryan Bailey" the "Kentucky Fried King" loves to do his customary wheelies on the track and it's exciting to watch him in action, he started in BMX, so did Robbie McEwan, what is it that drives these young men.

I personally think it's the will and passion that comes from inside, the heart, the dogged determination to get out there and show 'em. Incidentally Ryan Bailey has been touted, because he advocated the type of fuel he consumes, being fast food, (that's why he's so quick) he may be signing to be sponsored by one of the leaders in that field, at the moment it's a big secret and I can only guess but "KFC" might be on his suit of lights?

Australians have always had a "Larakin Image" Hard Drinking, Hard Playing, image, Irreverent to a degree, some might say almost irresponsible, but deep down they are extremely patriotic, they love their country with a passion, just see the tear in the eye as they stand on the dais and listen to the National Anthem.

All this born out of a "Multicultural Society' with a "Fantastic Gene Pool" that is prepared to stand up and be counted at any time.
The Heart, is what possibly gives us the edge, I say "US" with the "Utmost Humility and Respecrt" of course, as I too like to ride the coattails of their success.

I'm a proud Australian although only a recent import, I've only had my knees brown for Fourty Years, but I'm one of the lucky bastards, and I don't mind admitting it either.

I'm sorry if that seems a long couple of paragraphs, but it really is a very complex subject, let's hope that in the season 2005 we'll see a lot more winning by the boys from down under. I will go out on a limb here to say watch out for Brad McGee during "Le Tour" for the "Overall Gong", sorry "Lance"?

Just before closing my other tip is "Mark Webber" in the GP season starting in March, sorry Michael?

Keep the wheels in motion, and don't look back unles it's to see who you dropped on that last climb? TBC


Brian - thanks for the reply.

Yes, any Aussies that I have met, either in business, socially and the odd time in a sporting contest, have alway been tough hardy people.
Very sporting people but also very competitive.

I guess the good climate plays a big part too.
People can get out and train all day, every day.

But I suppose you are right - it is the Green n' Gold that makes them try harder.
Look at Steve Waugh and his old cap : battered, brusied but unbeaten.

The Aussie cyclists are very impressive : McGee in the 2004 Giro was a revelation.
He was able to climb with the best of them.

I too remember Phil Anderson - one tough hombre.

Thanks for the reply.
 
limerickman said:
I guess the good climate plays a big part too.
People can get out and train all day, every day.
i have never been to Aus but i would imagine if i lived there i would be a whole lot fitter. The amount of days i have woken up recently and looked out side to see sleet and strong winds is just depressing. I get on the turbo and only last half an hour through sheer boredom...

I would love to live in a sunny country...

actually i maybe a defector pretty soon. the wife and i are visitng California this summer. She has family there and they have asked us to move out permanently....

i just saw on the internet what our 3 bedroom semi equates to in Calif (price wise)...4 bedrooms, a pool, jacuzzi, huge garden etc etc...and sunshine..

i need help to get these silly thoughts out of my head..
 
MountainPro said:
i have never been to Aus but i would imagine if i lived there i would be a whole lot fitter. The amount of days i have woken up recently and looked out side to see sleet and strong winds is just depressing. I get on the turbo and only last half an hour through sheer boredom...

I would love to live in a sunny country...

actually i maybe a defector pretty soon. the wife and i are visitng California this summer. She has family there and they have asked us to move out permanently....

i just saw on the internet what our 3 bedroom semi equates to in Calif (price wise)...4 bedrooms, a pool, jacuzzi, huge garden etc etc...and sunshine..

i need help to get these silly thoughts out of my head..


Ah man, your resolve is weakening !

How could you trade the lovely winters here in this part of the world - for a nice sunny climate like California ????

The thought of leaving Europe to live anywhere in the uSA wouldn't appeal to me.
I prefer living here - despite the bad weather.
I could never countenance living in the USA : the wife would though.
I'd select anywhere else to live before going there, on principle.

You'd better be careful - immigration might have copies of the anti-Merkin stuff posted here !
Remember Big Brother is watching us all.
 
MountainPro said:
i have never been to Aus but i would imagine if i lived there i would be a whole lot fitter. The amount of days i have woken up recently and looked out side to see sleet and strong winds is just depressing. I get on the turbo and only last half an hour through sheer boredom...

I would love to live in a sunny country...

actually i maybe a defector pretty soon. the wife and i are visitng California this summer. She has family there and they have asked us to move out permanently....

i just saw on the internet what our 3 bedroom semi equates to in Calif (price wise)...4 bedrooms, a pool, jacuzzi, huge garden etc etc...and sunshine..

i need help to get these silly thoughts out of my head..
Now, now, go and have a lie down for a while, it'll pass. You've just over done it during the holidays. It's the same every year when people start sobering up.
 
England, United Kingdom, Britain, Great Britain.........Which is it? And, is it really that "great"?
 
Ruedy said:
England, United Kingdom, Britain, Great Britain.........Which is it? And, is it really that "great"?
No use asking me matey, I only live here. I'll tell you how great it is. Half the world want to come and live here.
 
FredC said:
No use asking me matey, I only live here. I'll tell you how great it is. Half the world want to come and live here.

And the other half wants to come here.
 
limerickman said:
You'd better be careful - immigration might have copies of the anti-Merkin stuff posted here !
Remember Big Brother is watching us all.
Me? Anti-merkin? i love our Merkiano cousins but as the old joke goes, i couldnt finish a whole one.

Its a pity i dont have relatives in the south of France...

actually i have very distant cousins in NZ...
 
Ruedy said:
England, United Kingdom, Britain, Great Britain.........Which is it? And, is it really that "great"?

Britain = Great Britain = England + Scotland + Wales.
United Kingdom = United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland = Great Britain + Northern Ireland.

But people often say "Great Britain" when they really mean "United Kingdom".

As for how "great" it is...well I think it's pretty great. I like it here.
 
MountainPro said:
i have never been to Aus but i would imagine if i lived there i would be a whole lot fitter. The amount of days i have woken up recently and looked out side to see sleet and strong winds is just depressing. I get on the turbo and only last half an hour through sheer boredom...

I would love to live in a sunny country...

actually i maybe a defector pretty soon. the wife and i are visitng California this summer. She has family there and they have asked us to move out permanently....

i just saw on the internet what our 3 bedroom semi equates to in Calif (price wise)...4 bedrooms, a pool, jacuzzi, huge garden etc etc...and sunshine..

i need help to get these silly thoughts out of my head..


G'day MountainPro, mate don't fret, you'll not be the first one to get jacked off by the long winter of the old country.

I was reading research that there is more depression amongst the residents of the Northern Hemisphere than those living in the sunnier climates of the world?

It is the lack of good sunshine that brings on this melancoly, whereas those living in places like Queensland, Australia are much less likely to suffer the same problem.

The answer is quite simple get yourself down to "Australia House" and make an application to migrate here. I can recommend "Queensland", for obvious reasons I have been here for fourty years, and would not live anywhere else in the world.

I'm sure the Southerners (New South Wales, Victoria, South Auatralia) would disagree with me, but they don't really know what their missing. There must be something good about the place as they are moving up here in droves at least 10.000 a month was the latest figures.

If your House in the UK is worth 350.000 pounds then look at twice that sort of value here, that would equate to about AU$700.000 which would buy you a fairly substantial bit of property here, as well as a new Carbon Fibre Steed, to get out and train on.

The temperatures here are really very mild, in winter, being our dryest time of the year with night's going down to maybe 8C but usually not that cool and daytime temp's of around 22-26C, it is ideal weather to ride and train. This goes from late March till early September, with June being the mid winter time and the coolest.

Summer which we are "in at present" is a bit hot, with the daytimer temp's of between 27-34C most days from November till late February, the bit that knocks most people over is the humidity which today is about 80% and varies with the prevailing wind directions and the current rainfall.

The hottest time is from early December till late February and that is when we get the most rainfall, we hope? Of course we are at the mercy of the weather gods for our rainfal, and it does create a problem, as we are the dryest continent on the face of the planet.

The area around Brisbane is surrounded by hills, to the South and fifty kilometres away are the Tamborine Mountains, they are the hinterland of the Gold Coast this is where Bobbie McEwen comes from. To the West are the continuation of the McPherson Ranges which are part of the Greeat Dividing Range.

Going West young man will get you to Mount Glorius about fourty five kilometres and is a good climb both ways and will test most of those who consider themselve mountain goats, so of course will Mount Tamborine. If you continue over Mt. Glorious you descend to the Brisbane Valley and if you are up to it can complete a ride of around 185kilometres back to Brisbane.

The terrrain is undulating from Brisbane to both mountain ranges and if you go North you come to the range of mountains that are known as the Sunshine Coast hintrerland, climbing up to the Villages of Melaney, or Montville, lovely little eateries there ready for the return trip to Brisbane.

That ride will put 200 kilometres in your legs and a gang of us used to do those trips on alternate weekends. One week North, next week South, and the third week West, this was as well as racing Saturday afternoon at either club or open events.

Most of this has changed with the new, younger riders, who don't do the long rides like the older fellows used to, they prefer to ride a gut busting dash on Saturday morning of around 110 kilometres at anything from 28-35 Kph average pace. Too bloody quick for an older codger like me, but we have a couple of fifty year old's who do it, and kick butt at the same time.

Mate there are so many positives to living here it's a wonder why our population is only 20 Million, just think what talent we could inflict on the world if there were 100 million of us, now that's scary stuff.

The "Tour de France" again, goes to Australia, said the commentator, this is Joe Blow's tenth win, when will these people give up being so good, even the other country's won't play them at Footabll, Cricket, or Table Tennis, it must be the Water or something like that.

I'l stop dreaming and wish you a speedy recovery from you melancoly?

Keep the wheels in motion, and don't look back, unless it's to see who you dropped on that last climb? TBC
 
mjw_byrne said:
Britain = Great Britain = England + Scotland + Wales.
United Kingdom = United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland = Great Britain + Northern Ireland.

But people often say "Great Britain" when they really mean "United Kingdom".

As for how "great" it is...well I think it's pretty great. I like it here.
What about the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands. I know that they are in the Common Purse, and the IOM is autonomous and not in the EU.
 
limerickman said:
Brian - thanks for the reply.

Yes, any Aussies that I have met, either in business, socially and the odd time in a sporting contest, have alway been tough hardy people.
Very sporting people but also very competitive.

I guess the good climate plays a big part too.
People can get out and train all day, every day.

But I suppose you are right - it is the Green n' Gold that makes them try harder.
Look at Steve Waugh and his old cap : battered, brusied but unbeaten.

The Aussie cyclists are very impressive : McGee in the 2004 Giro was a revelation.
He was able to climb with the best of them.

I too remember Phil Anderson - one tough hombre.

Thanks for the reply.
Strangely enough Phil Anderson was a great rider, but my favourite is Neil Stephens, what a tough grafter.
I knew a crackpot Aussie by the name of Bruce Hunt, he rode for Peugot at the time, and did barmy things like the trans Australia record carting his own bivvy about.
What about Phil Andersons wife? Nobody likes her over here.
 
FredC said:
What about the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands. I know that they are in the Common Purse, and the IOM is autonomous and not in the EU.

Yeah, I was simplifying it a bit.