Thanks Steve That last one absolutely describes my son at that point. He could've been used as the example,of who's likely to be afflicted, for the study. We were never able to correllate things well enough to know when not to race. Seems to run in the family as our daughter has it to a lesser degree, and raced and swam competitively until getting way too wrapped up in school to keep it up on a regular basis. Something about theater types having things to do afternoons and nights, along with homework. ;-) Bill C
I already told you - your son doesn't have asthma. Neither does your daughter. They only think they do because they were taught about asthma from you. That's where they get it from - it's a learned behavior.
And that's why 60% of the pro men have 'asthma' and 0% of the women pro cyclists have it.
> > > Yeah, I have difficulty breathing when I go out for a ride and hit > it hard when I'm out of shape. I don't attribute that lung burn to > a medical condition. > > If you were to take away the inhalers of all the people diagnosed > with asthma, do you think they would actually keel over and die of > suffocation? I've never heard of it once in my life. It's never > happened in any bike race or in any marathon. So that should tell > you how 'real' the condition of asthma is. > > If asthma were that serious a condition and as prevalent as you make > it seem, surely we would have seen some deaths because of it by > now. But in fact, we see no deaths in any sport. Not even one. Not > in high school, college, or at the pro level. Not in any sport. > Can you cite me any deaths of asthma in a sporting event where the > coroner actually said the cause of death was suffocation by asthma? > > The condition all you people have is called 'out of shape.' Or, if > you're not out of shape, then you've simply reached your physical > limit and that's what causes your 'difficulty in breathing' which > you wrongly call 'inability to breathe.' I know you're wrong > because if you couldn't breathe, you would die. And since your son > isn't dead, there was NEVER an occasion when he couldn't breathe > (and if so, it sure as hell wasn't for much longer than 30 seconds, > which is what happens to everyone when they push it too hard). > > It's obvious you 'asthmatics' are confusing normal pulmonary > reaction to high-level exercise with a medical condition. > > You tell your son I cured him. And after you do that take his > inhaler and throw it in the trash. > > > Dr. Magilla > Asthma Specialist
"Being overweight increases the odds you'll be misdiagnosed as having asthma when other problems are actually to blame for shortness of breath or wheezing."
Thanks,
Magilla
I have no doubt that asthma is sometimes misdiagnosed.
Steve
In your above sentence, change the word "sometimes" to "always" and you'll be ready to go.
developed it in my mid 30s and it's more like an allergic reaction. I'll be totally fine, and suddenly can't even walk across a room. It's not due to lack of fitness, trust me. With my current fat ass I know what that feels like. Luckily I've only had one attack in the last 4 or 5 years, and know exactly what caused it. As Kyle pointed out the reality is that it's out there, is observable in testing, and immediately treatable. If you'd said the numbers of folks claiming to have it, especially in the pro peloton is WAY too high then I'd agree with you. Bill C
Yeah, I have difficulty breathing when I go out for a ride and hit it hard when I'm out of shape. I don't attribute that lung burn to a medical condition.
If you were to take away the inhalers of all the people diagnosed with asthma, do you think they would actually keel over and die of suffocation? I've never heard of it once in my life. It's never happened in any bike race or in any marathon. So that should tell you how 'real' the condition of asthma is.
If asthma were that serious a condition and as prevalent as you make it seem, surely we would have seen some deaths because of it by now. But in fact, we see no deaths in any sport. Not even one. Not in high school, college, or at the pro level. Not in any sport. Can you cite me any deaths of asthma in a sporting event where the coroner actually said the cause of death was suffocation by asthma?
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I hope to hell it never happens to you. I
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developed it in my mid 30s and it's more like an allergic reaction. I'll be totally fine, and suddenly can't even walk across a room. It's not due to lack of fitness, trust me. With my current fat ass I know what that feels like. Luckily I've only had one attack in the last 4 or 5 years, and know exactly what caused it. As Kyle pointed out the reality is that it's out there, is observable in testing, and immediately treatable. If you'd said the numbers of folks claiming to have it, especially in the pro peloton is WAY too high then I'd agree with you. Bill C
Yeah, I have difficulty breathing when I go out for a ride and hit it hard when I'm out of shape. I don't attribute that lung burn to a medical condition.
If you were to take away the inhalers of all the people diagnosed with asthma, do you think they would actually keel over and die of suffocation? I've never heard of it once in my life. It's never happened in any bike race or in any marathon. So that should tell you how 'real' the condition of asthma is.
If asthma were that serious a condition and as prevalent as you make it seem, surely we would have seen some deaths because of it by now. But in fact, we see no deaths in any sport. Not even one. Not in high school, college, or at the pro level. Not in any sport. Can you cite me any deaths of asthma in a sporting event where the coroner actually said the cause of death was suffocation by asthma?
My compliments.
You should have a radio show.
I was thinking the scientology folk might like to have him as their poster chimp.
difference between normal stressed breathing, and suddenly being unable to breathe at all?
Yeah, it's called a normal response to exercise and it happens to everyone.
Constriction of the airways is not a normal response to exercise.
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Also, when you say, "normal stressed breathing" and "suddenly being unable to breathe at all"....that's [censored]. You son would be dead if he couldn't breathe at all, so we know that part isn't true.
It all depends on how long the attack lasts. Asthma can be a terminal condition if it doesn't resolve itself or get treated with compounds which relax the bronchial smooth muscle (but do absolutely nothing to normal people with already relaxed smooth muscle).
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Not sure what else I need to disprove.
You're not disproving anything. Rather, you're proving you're Kunich's little brother.
If you were to take away the inhalers of all the people diagnosed with asthma, do you think they would actually keel over and die of suffocation? I've never heard of it once in my life. It's never happened in any bike race or in any marathon. So that should tell you how 'real' the condition of asthma is.
If asthma were that serious a condition and as prevalent as you make it seem, surely we would have seen some deaths because of it by now.
But in fact, we see no deaths in any sport. Not even one. Not in high school, college, or at the pro level. Not in any sport. Can you cite me any deaths of asthma in a sporting event where the coroner actually said the cause of death was suffocation by asthma?
If you were to take away the inhalers of all the people diagnosed with asthma, do you think they would actually keel over and die of suffocation? I've never heard of it once in my life. It's never happened in any bike race or in any marathon. So that should tell you how 'real' the condition of asthma is.
If asthma were that serious a condition and as prevalent as you make it seem, surely we would have seen some deaths because of it by now.
But in fact, we see no deaths in any sport. Not even one. Not in high school, college, or at the pro level. Not in any sport. Can you cite me any deaths of asthma in a sporting event where the coroner actually said the cause of death was suffocation by asthma?
It's obvious you 'asthmatics' are confusing normal pulmonary reaction to high-level exercise with a medical condition.
It has become obvious to me that you have developed a medical condition of your own. My differential diagnosis is "Jumping the Shark".
You posit liability attorneys and workers in the respiratory field as valid, impartial sources of information about respiratory disease? Don't [censored] on that gravy train!
