Uphill muni

Riding, of course, as long as the trail isn't too overly technical. If
I could ride up it with a SS mountain bike, I'll ride it with my muni.
Keep in mind that it'll probably be quite difficult when you first
start. In my experience, uphill muni riding is an altogether different
skill than riding on level ground, and it took quite a bit of time and
effort to develop it.

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Walking, of course, I dont really see the point of riding up. It
usually is really slow and tiring and you usually UPD on a small root
or rock or it just gets too steep to continue. I just walk up cause
the fun part is going down.

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50/50.

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On a typical weekend ride, I try to ride as much of the uphill as is
feasible, but on a big event ride, where I know I'm going to be blasted
at the end, I'll relax a bit and walk more. But at big events, some
people walk 100% of the uphill, and most people walk most of the
uphill.

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60/40

.. but I choose my uphills 😉

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I have gotten pretty good at riding up steep stuff. As with a bike it is
very tiring. Actually I ride with mountain bikers mostly and on the
uphill is the only time when I can ride as fast as the bikers and even
pass them sometimes!

It all depends how I feel. I like the challenge of riding uphill and
feel that it really developes good muscles and coordination. Now that I
am into jumping and pecking Li love to just challenge myself up a rocky
steep slope and amaze my Mountain Biking partners. However sometimes I
am just too tired so I walk the uphill sections.

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I ride up whenever it's possible. I ride up so I can get my gravity
karma for the ride down. You have to ride the climb up to collect the
karma. Too much walking or shuttles and you go in gravity karma debt
and that will catch up with you. 😉

Most trails will have a logging road or fire road climb to get to the
fun downhill singletrack. Logging roads and fire roads are generally
ridable but can get a bit steep and washboarded which can make the
climbing more difficult. A few trails will have an easier singletrack
trail going up with a more challenging trail going down. The trail
going up should be ridable unless the trail system was designed by a
masochist.

Climbing is a lot about technique. With the right technique the
climbing is more efficient. With poor technique the climbing will be
impossible. It becomes a mix of technique and fitness with technique
and determination being more important. The fitness just means you'll
be able to go faster and go longer between rest stops.

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One of the most common uphill riding mistakes is not leaning forward
enough. If you lean forward enough you start to fall and correct this
by putting weight on the forward pedal giving you a lot of climbing
power. Also try to avoid going over rocks. A steep hill is much easier
to ride up if it is smooth with hard packed ground rather than littered
with stones. If there are a lot of stones then "snake" your way through
to avoid them ass much as posible.

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Fat people don't ride uphill. Some people say "I don't ride uphill, I'm
a downhiller" as if it's a concious choice. It *was* a concious choice
that they made when they ate all those pies (although I guess some
people might disagree and go out and sue Pukka Pies for force feeding
them pies, but that's not the point).

Everyone else rides uphill until they physically can't. If you don't
try, you are officially a 'pie specialist' or 'built for downhill',
simple as eh.

All really good muni riders ride as much uphill as possible. Kris Holm
for example is a pretty neat uphiller. Uphill is part of how you
develop the strength and skills you need to improve your downhill and
flat riding.

It's also pretty skillful too, who was it, Bevan I think, who I rode
with in California, could ride up some insane stuff, not because he was
fitter than me, I think I was a fair bit faster downhill, but because
he totally had the skills. I've never seen anyone else climb like that.

Riding with people who don't ride uphill is hassle cos they moan at
every little undulation, and you have to wait hours at the top of
hills. I don't mind riding with people who try and fail to go up hills,
but people who don't even try because they're fat and lazy that's just
rude, and they're always so slow on the downhills too.

It's awesome when you get a ride where everyone is an uphiller, cos the
ride just flows so much better, I've organised a couple of muni
weekends that turned out like that and it was great.

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Eek, Joe... that was a bit of a rant mate :p

I agree with the point that technical uphill riding is more down to
skill than strength. I'm not very good at it, but I'm quite good on
leg strength and general fitness from years of bike riding.

There are a couple of rocky hills on my usual commuting route that I
can ride easily downwards, but my (lack of) technique is to plough over
stuff and use speed and momentum to get me over it. That doesn't work
uphill - you need to be a better technical rider to ride the same stuff
uphill. I tend to sprint up rocky or rooty hills until I trip and fall
off (or occasionally make it to the top), whereas a more skilled rider
would ride up in a more controlled manner.

But to answer the original question, yes I ride up anything I can
(which is most of the time as I'm more of a cross-country rider than a
hardcore techy).

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Riding up hills is great fun. My mentality with Muni is that i want to
do everything i used to do on a mountain bike, and more. So getting up
the hills (riding) is all part of it. Getting to the top of a hill in
one go which had beaten me before is a great feeling and personally
gives as much satisfaction as clearing a tricky downhill section.

Technique wise, recently i have found concentrating on staying relaxed
and smoothly spinning the cranks has been much more effective than
charging at the hill and usually falling off the front.

i think it takes lots of practice to get up them, keep riding and
having fun

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vanuni mainly ride on 2 mountains:

mt seymour is a 'shuttle' mountain. we park at the bottom and one car
takes us to the top.

mt fromme has no car access. we walk to the top.

Vancouver mountains are steep, downhill skiing mountains. Riding up
isnt really an option. Trails that are ridable are more cross country
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Look at this bunch of pansies -walking- up Snowdon!
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Into the blue said:

Look at this bunch of pansies -walking- up Snowdon!
Pffh!

Yes well the trouble they've got there of course is that they came up
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Three things.

- There's loads of skill needed in riding technical uphill. If you
never do it, you're leaving a big hole in your MUni skillset. The more
uphill riding skill you develop, the more it will spill over into other
forms of riding.

- To me, the core philosophy of MUni is to ride things that are hard.
If you deliberately eschew the uphills, you're not a "complete" MUni
rider.

- Fitness-wise, one ride up the hill is the equivalent of probably four
or more rides down. Don't deprive yourself. That said, I must defer to
tholub's words above. You have to consider the overall ride, and
overall schedule as part of the process. On a busy MUni Weekend, for
example, you might want to save your strength for the days ahead. At
the last MUni Weekend we did Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, which starts with
about 1800' of climb, starting from roughly 7000'. Usually we like to
ride for a while, but it always turns into a hike; I've never seen
anyone ride it all. The long ride afterward kind of makes up for any
guilt you may have from not riding all the way up.

Some trails are not conducive to riding up. The 2001 MUni Weekend's
"Downhill Riding Workshop" trail felt like it was about 45 degrees,
from bottom to top. It wasn't really, but it was steep enough to turn
my legs to jelly on the walk up. Or, sometimes the overall ride is
going to be long enough that some walking is okay, like above, or if
the uphill was planned to be done on a train, until you found out the
train didn't want 25 equipment-clad unicyclists on board. That could
lead to 'images like this'
(http://unicycling.smugmug.com/gallery/2479643#130092057) for the
ultra-fit, though most of us walked the majority of the uphill. It may
not look very steep, but consider 8km+ of that, with a rise of 1200
meters.

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phthoruth said:

Trails that are ridable are more cross country than muni.

Don't start that one as well. Or at least don't do that and let Joe know
where you live. :eek:

Cross country and muni aren't different things. Just because you're
riding 20 miles doesn't mean it's all flat, smooth and boring. To me
cross country just means that the ride is several miles long and you
either ride, or try to ride all of it - up and downhills.

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Some of my favorite trails aren't all that conducive to uphill riding.
But I've got a couple of steep mountains ('Wilson'
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Wilson_%28California%29), 'Lowe'
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Lowe_%28California%29)) literally
in my back yard. I 29er up and down them frequently to stay in shape
for the crazy stuff.

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I actually like climbing a bit more than descending, simply because it's
so much more challenging. I'm not very good at it, yet, more for the
lazy, pie-eating reasons joemarshall notes, than for technique, as it's
more often exhaustion than any other reason that causes me to UPD. But
I'm completely with John Childs about the climbing karma thing--the
harder you work to earn that downhill, the sweeter it is.

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phthoruth said:

vanuni mainly ride on 2 mountains:

mt seymour is a 'shuttle' mountain. we park at the bottom and one car
takes us to the top.

mt fromme has no car access. we walk to the top.

Vancouver mountains are steep, downhill skiing mountains. Riding up
isnt really an option. Trails that are ridable are more cross country
than muni.

I've not been to Seymour, but I have ridden on Fromme. The dirt road
climb up Fromme is very ridable. The dirt road climb up isn't even
difficult. There is no excuse for walking it. Those are the types of
climbs you should do so you get better at climbing.

The climb up is easy. It's the ride down the trails on Fromme that is
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