"Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
you said:
"Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
you said:
><[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> What does over 200,000 dead and more to come have to do >> with riding my bike. MTB 05 >> > >For starter, they probably MADE your bike, you [censored].
Guess I'm glad I got it before they died then huh? >
Good to know you two don't expect anyone to care when you go.
Yep good to know! But I have no such expectations as an "ugly American" do you? Will the world come help you in a natural disaster?
Who cares if they come and help? We probably wouldn't NEED help anyawy. Most of the world does not have the resources the United States has so it is a responsibility as the worlds last remaining super power to be there in a time of need. In fact, I am very disappointed that Australia has commited twice the amount of funds the US has to tsunami aid. We should be doing more.
"Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
you said:
"Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
>you said: > > >><[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:[email hidden]... >> >>> What does over 200,000 dead and more to come have to do >>>with riding my bike. MTB 05 >>> >> >>For starter, they probably MADE your bike, you [censored]. > >Guess I'm glad I got it before they died then huh? > Good to know you two don't expect anyone to care when you go.
Yep good to know! But I have no such expectations as an "ugly American" do you? Will the world come help you in a natural disaster?
Who cares if they come and help? We probably wouldn't NEED help anyawy. Most of the world does not have the resources the United States has so it is a responsibility as the worlds last remaining super power to be there in a time of need. In fact, I am very disappointed that Australia has commited twice the amount of funds the US has to tsunami aid. We should be doing more.
Yeh, but those are Australian dollars. My toe nail is worth more. 🙂
"Ride-A-Lot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Chris Glidden said:
"Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
you said:
>"Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... > >>you said: >> >> >>><[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>news:[email hidden]... >>> >>>> What does over 200,000 dead and more to come have to >>>> do >>>>with riding my bike. MTB 05 >>>> >>> >>>For starter, they probably MADE your bike, you [censored]. >> >>Guess I'm glad I got it before they died then huh? >> >Good to know you two don't expect anyone to care when you go. >
Yep good to know! But I have no such expectations as an "ugly American" do you? Will the world come help you in a natural disaster?
Who cares if they come and help? We probably wouldn't NEED help anyawy. Most of the world does not have the resources the United States has so it is a responsibility as the worlds last remaining super power to be there in a time of need. In fact, I am very disappointed that Australia has commited twice the amount of funds the US has to tsunami aid. We should be doing more.
Yeh, but those are Australian dollars. My toe nail is worth more. 🙂
Who cares if they come and help? We probably wouldn't NEED help anyawy. Most of the world does not have the resources the United States has so it is a responsibility as the worlds last remaining super power to be there in a time of need. In fact, I am very disappointed that Australia has commited twice the amount of funds the US has to tsunami aid. We should be doing more.
Check your facts, Chris. When all added up, the U.S. contribution is hands down higher than down under's...over?!? 🙂
I heard a pretty good explanation of how disaster aid works. The initial objective is ASSESSMENT, which takes a bit of time and personnel to accomplish. If you just pour dollars and materials into a place with no way to deliver and distribute it when and where needed, it's not very effective. (Different areas have different needs. Some have no water but food supply is ok; others have water but no medicine or hospitals, etc.) That's why our /initial/ outlay was just $35 million -- to see what was happening and what would be necessary -- then quickly ratcheted up to $350M. (And that's sure to grow more, plus all the private and corporate money that's being pledged.)
The sad fact is that the U.S. will be criticized no matter WHAT it does, as you yourself demonstrate. -- BS (no, really)
"Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Chris Glidden said:
Who cares if they come and help? We probably wouldn't NEED help anyawy. Most of the world does not have the resources the United States has so it is a responsibility as the worlds last remaining super power to be there in a time of need. In fact, I am very disappointed that Australia has commited twice the amount of funds the US has to tsunami aid. We should be doing more.
Check your facts, Chris. When all added up, the U.S. contribution is hands down higher than down under's...over?!? 🙂
I heard a pretty good explanation of how disaster aid works. The initial objective is ASSESSMENT, which takes a bit of time and personnel to accomplish. If you just pour dollars and materials into a place with no way to deliver and distribute it when and where needed, it's not very effective. (Different areas have different needs. Some have no water but food supply is ok; others have water but no medicine or hospitals, etc.) That's why our /initial/ outlay was just $35 million -- to see what was happening and what would be necessary -- then quickly ratcheted up to $350M. (And that's sure to grow more, plus all the private and corporate money that's being pledged.)
The sad fact is that the U.S. will be criticized no matter WHAT it does, as you yourself demonstrate. -- BS (no, really)
I'm not criticizing at all, just stating how I feel.
"Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
you said:
"Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
you said:
><[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> What does over 200,000 dead and more to come have to do >> with riding my bike. MTB 05 >> > >For starter, they probably MADE your bike, you [censored].
Guess I'm glad I got it before they died then huh? >
Good to know you two don't expect anyone to care when you go.
Yep good to know! But I have no such expectations as an "ugly American" do you? Will the world come help you in a natural disaster?
realistic much?
If you're trying to shock and/or anger me with your ignorance, you are going to have to try much harder. There are many more like you who are better spoken and just as clueless.
"Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Chris Glidden said:
Who cares if they come and help? We probably wouldn't NEED help anyawy. Most of the world does not have the resources the United States has so it is a responsibility as the worlds last remaining super power to be there in a time of need. In fact, I am very disappointed that Australia has commited twice the amount of funds the US has to tsunami aid. We should be doing more.
Check your facts, Chris. When all added up, the U.S. contribution is hands down higher than down under's...over?!? 🙂
I heard a pretty good explanation of how disaster aid works. The initial objective is ASSESSMENT, which takes a bit of time and personnel to accomplish. If you just pour dollars and materials into a place with no way to deliver and distribute it when and where needed, it's not very effective. (Different areas have different needs. Some have no water but food supply is ok; others have water but no medicine or hospitals, etc.) That's why our /initial/ outlay was just $35 million -- to see what was happening and what would be necessary -- then quickly ratcheted up to $350M. (And that's sure to grow more, plus all the private and corporate money that's being pledged.)
The sad fact is that the U.S. will be criticized no matter WHAT it does, as you yourself demonstrate. -- BS (no, really)
I'm not criticizing at all, just stating how I feel.
Fair enough...but perhaps getting the facts straight might influence how you feel? (Although, that's the actual problem in many parts of the world: no matter WHAT the facts are, the U.S. is hated/resented. Thus this thread!)
"Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Chris Glidden said:
"Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Chris Glidden wrote: > Who cares if they come and help? We probably wouldn't NEED help > anyawy. Most of the world does not have the resources the United > States has so it is a responsibility as the worlds last remaining > super power to be there in a time of need. In fact, I am very > disappointed that Australia has commited twice the amount of funds > the US has to tsunami aid. We should be doing more.
Check your facts, Chris. When all added up, the U.S. contribution is hands down higher than down under's...over?!? 🙂
I heard a pretty good explanation of how disaster aid works. The initial objective is ASSESSMENT, which takes a bit of time and personnel to accomplish. If you just pour dollars and materials into a place with no way to deliver and distribute it when and where needed, it's not very effective. (Different areas have different needs. Some have no water but food supply is ok; others have water but no medicine or hospitals, etc.) That's why our /initial/ outlay was just $35 million -- to see what was happening and what would be necessary -- then quickly ratcheted up to $350M. (And that's sure to grow more, plus all the private and corporate money that's being pledged.)
The sad fact is that the U.S. will be criticized no matter WHAT it does, as you yourself demonstrate. -- BS (no, really)
I'm not criticizing at all, just stating how I feel.
Fair enough...but perhaps getting the facts straight might influence how you feel? (Although, that's the actual problem in many parts of the world: no matter WHAT the facts are, the U.S. is hated/resented. Thus this thread!)
I neither hate nor resent the US, I don't like our current administration.
"cc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
"Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
you said:
"Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > you said: > >><[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:[email hidden]... >>> What does over 200,000 dead and more to come have to
do
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>>> with riding my bike. MTB 05 >>> >> >>For starter, they probably MADE your bike, you [censored]. > > Guess I'm glad I got it before they died then huh? >>
Good to know you two don't expect anyone to care when you go.
Yep good to know! But I have no such expectations as an "ugly American" do you? Will the world come help you in a natural disaster?
realistic much?
If you're trying to shock and/or anger me with your ignorance, you are
going
Quoted message said:
to have to try much harder. There are many more like you who are better spoken and just as clueless.
E.g.. Carl Marx?
That is the first time in my post collegiate life that I have ever referenced Carl Marx to make a point. Hey, I'm like you!!!
Thank God for Berkley ------- oh [censored], I'm not supposed to say God ....can I still be in the "more enlightened than everyone else" club?
"Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
you said:
"Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > you said: > >><[email hidden]> wrote in message >>news:[email hidden]... >>> What does over 200,000 dead and more to come have to do >>> with riding my bike. MTB 05 >>> >> >>For starter, they probably MADE your bike, you [censored]. > > Guess I'm glad I got it before they died then huh? >>
Good to know you two don't expect anyone to care when you go.
Yep good to know! But I have no such expectations as an "ugly American" do you? Will the world come help you in a natural disaster?
realistic much?
If you're trying to shock and/or anger me with your ignorance, you are going to have to try much harder. There are many more like you who are better spoken and just as clueless.
yeah, and I've been called alot worse by better people. I was trying to shock and anger about as much as you were with your silly ass attack on crazy...
Compassion so they can get on their feet and say death to imperial America. Who came running in 2001 on Manhatan Island they were all Amerians no out side help. The out siders were laughing so hard they couldn't move.
The British, French, Germans, Belgians and every other member of NATO offered all assistance deemed necessary. We borrowed some of their AWACs for a while, and even those diametrically opposed to the Iraq quagmire still serve as peacekeepers in Afghanistan (and Kosovo).
-- -- Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall "We should not march into Baghdad. ... Assigning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerilla war, it could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater instability." George Bush Sr. in his 1998 book "A World Transformed"
Compassion so they can get on their feet and say death to imperial America. Who came running in 2001 on Manhatan Island they were all Amerians no out side help. The out siders were laughing so hard they couldn't move.
Compassion so they can get on their feet and say death to imperial America. Who came running in 2001 on Manhatan Island they were all Amerians no out side help. The out siders were laughing so hard they couldn't move.
It's typical for us to think that money can show other nations
that we truly
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
care. This is exactly the capitalist mindset. If money is the most
important
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
thing, then surely giving it away will gain us resounding support
in the
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
remainder of the world. Um .... wrong answer.
Quoted message said:
I hope that doesn't explain the 35 million dollar initial response
from
Quoted message said:
Bush.
Several ships were already in-route to the area to render aid long before GWB stood up to pledge our monitary support in front of the news cameras. Nobody ever considered that.. Nor how much that is costing us in fuel, food and salaries for that aid to get there and be given. Just look at the USNS Mercy, ( http://www.mercy.navy.mil/ )12 state of the art operatingrooms, a 1,000 bed hospital facility, et.... Can you even begin to guess at what it takes to operate a ship of that size???? a 1000 bed floating hospital, and the complete staff to run it.