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  1. "Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    you said:

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    What does over 200,000 dead and more to come have to do
    with riding my bike. MTB 05

    For starter, they probably MADE your bike, you [censored].

    Guess I'm glad I got it before they died then huh?

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    Good to know you two don't expect anyone to care when you go.

  2. you said:


    "Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    you said:

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    > What does over 200,000 dead and more to come have to do
    > with riding my bike. MTB 05
    >

    For starter, they probably MADE your bike, you [censored].

    Guess I'm glad I got it before they died then huh?

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    Good to know you two don't expect anyone to care when you go.

    Yep good to know! But I have no such expectations as an "ugly
    American" do you? Will the world come help you in a natural disaster?

    realistic much?

  3. "Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    you said:


    "Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    you said:

    ><[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >> What does over 200,000 dead and more to come have to do
    >> with riding my bike. MTB 05
    >>
    >
    >For starter, they probably MADE your bike, you [censored].

    Guess I'm glad I got it before they died then huh?
    >

    Good to know you two don't expect anyone to care when you go.

    Yep good to know! But I have no such expectations as an "ugly
    American" do you? Will the world come help you in a natural disaster?


    Who cares if they come and help? We probably wouldn't NEED help anyawy.
    Most of the world does not have the resources the United States has so it is
    a responsibility as the worlds last remaining super power to be there in a
    time of need. In fact, I am very disappointed that Australia has commited
    twice the amount of funds the US has to tsunami aid. We should be doing
    more.

  4. Chris Glidden said:

    "Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    you said:

    "Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >you said:
    >
    >
    >><[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >>
    >>> What does over 200,000 dead and more to come have to do
    >>>with riding my bike. MTB 05
    >>>
    >>
    >>For starter, they probably MADE your bike, you [censored].
    >
    >Guess I'm glad I got it before they died then huh?
    >
    Good to know you two don't expect anyone to care when you go.

    Yep good to know! But I have no such expectations as an "ugly
    American" do you? Will the world come help you in a natural disaster?

    Who cares if they come and help? We probably wouldn't NEED help anyawy.
    Most of the world does not have the resources the United States has so it is
    a responsibility as the worlds last remaining super power to be there in a
    time of need. In fact, I am very disappointed that Australia has commited
    twice the amount of funds the US has to tsunami aid. We should be doing
    more.

    Yeh, but those are Australian dollars. My toe nail is worth more. 🙂

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

  5. "Ride-A-Lot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Chris Glidden said:

    "Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    you said:

    >"Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >
    >>you said:
    >>
    >>
    >>><[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >>>news:[email hidden]...
    >>>
    >>>> What does over 200,000 dead and more to come have to
    >>>> do
    >>>>with riding my bike. MTB 05
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>For starter, they probably MADE your bike, you [censored].
    >>
    >>Guess I'm glad I got it before they died then huh?
    >>
    >Good to know you two don't expect anyone to care when you go.
    >

    Yep good to know! But I have no such expectations as an "ugly
    American" do you? Will the world come help you in a natural disaster?

    Who cares if they come and help? We probably wouldn't NEED help anyawy.
    Most of the world does not have the resources the United States has so it
    is a responsibility as the worlds last remaining super power to be there
    in a time of need. In fact, I am very disappointed that Australia has
    commited twice the amount of funds the US has to tsunami aid. We should
    be doing more.

    Yeh, but those are Australian dollars. My toe nail is worth more. 🙂


    Lol. Touche.

  6. Chris Glidden said:

    Who cares if they come and help? We probably wouldn't NEED help
    anyawy. Most of the world does not have the resources the United
    States has so it is a responsibility as the worlds last remaining
    super power to be there in a time of need. In fact, I am very
    disappointed that Australia has commited twice the amount of funds
    the US has to tsunami aid. We should be doing more.

    Check your facts, Chris. When all added up, the U.S. contribution is hands
    down higher than down under's...over?!? 🙂

    I heard a pretty good explanation of how disaster aid works. The initial
    objective is ASSESSMENT, which takes a bit of time and personnel to
    accomplish. If you just pour dollars and materials into a place with no way
    to deliver and distribute it when and where needed, it's not very effective.
    (Different areas have different needs. Some have no water but food supply
    is ok; others have water but no medicine or hospitals, etc.) That's why our
    /initial/ outlay was just $35 million -- to see what was happening and what
    would be necessary -- then quickly ratcheted up to $350M. (And that's sure
    to grow more, plus all the private and corporate money that's being
    pledged.)

    The sad fact is that the U.S. will be criticized no matter WHAT it does, as
    you yourself demonstrate.
    --
    BS (no, really)

  7. "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Chris Glidden said:

    Who cares if they come and help? We probably wouldn't NEED help
    anyawy. Most of the world does not have the resources the United
    States has so it is a responsibility as the worlds last remaining
    super power to be there in a time of need. In fact, I am very
    disappointed that Australia has commited twice the amount of funds
    the US has to tsunami aid. We should be doing more.

    Check your facts, Chris. When all added up, the U.S. contribution is
    hands
    down higher than down under's...over?!? 🙂

    I heard a pretty good explanation of how disaster aid works. The initial
    objective is ASSESSMENT, which takes a bit of time and personnel to
    accomplish. If you just pour dollars and materials into a place with no
    way
    to deliver and distribute it when and where needed, it's not very
    effective.
    (Different areas have different needs. Some have no water but food supply
    is ok; others have water but no medicine or hospitals, etc.) That's why
    our
    /initial/ outlay was just $35 million -- to see what was happening and
    what
    would be necessary -- then quickly ratcheted up to $350M. (And that's
    sure
    to grow more, plus all the private and corporate money that's being
    pledged.)

    The sad fact is that the U.S. will be criticized no matter WHAT it does,
    as
    you yourself demonstrate.
    --
    BS (no, really)


    I'm not criticizing at all, just stating how I feel.

  8. "Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    you said:


    "Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    you said:

    ><[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >> What does over 200,000 dead and more to come have to do
    >> with riding my bike. MTB 05
    >>
    >
    >For starter, they probably MADE your bike, you [censored].

    Guess I'm glad I got it before they died then huh?
    >

    Good to know you two don't expect anyone to care when you go.

    Yep good to know! But I have no such expectations as an "ugly
    American" do you? Will the world come help you in a natural disaster?

    realistic much?

    If you're trying to shock and/or anger me with your ignorance, you are going
    to have to try much harder. There are many more like you who are better
    spoken and just as clueless.

  9. Chris Glidden said:

    "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Chris Glidden said:

    Who cares if they come and help? We probably wouldn't NEED help
    anyawy. Most of the world does not have the resources the United
    States has so it is a responsibility as the worlds last remaining
    super power to be there in a time of need. In fact, I am very
    disappointed that Australia has commited twice the amount of funds
    the US has to tsunami aid. We should be doing more.

    Check your facts, Chris. When all added up, the U.S. contribution is
    hands
    down higher than down under's...over?!? 🙂

    I heard a pretty good explanation of how disaster aid works. The
    initial objective is ASSESSMENT, which takes a bit of time and
    personnel to accomplish. If you just pour dollars and materials
    into a place with no way
    to deliver and distribute it when and where needed, it's not very
    effective.
    (Different areas have different needs. Some have no water but food
    supply is ok; others have water but no medicine or hospitals, etc.)
    That's why our
    /initial/ outlay was just $35 million -- to see what was happening
    and what
    would be necessary -- then quickly ratcheted up to $350M. (And
    that's sure
    to grow more, plus all the private and corporate money that's being
    pledged.)

    The sad fact is that the U.S. will be criticized no matter WHAT it
    does, as
    you yourself demonstrate.
    --
    BS (no, really)


    I'm not criticizing at all, just stating how I feel.

    Fair enough...but perhaps getting the facts straight might influence how you
    feel? (Although, that's the actual problem in many parts of the world: no
    matter WHAT the facts are, the U.S. is hated/resented. Thus this thread!)

  10. "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Chris Glidden said:

    "Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Chris Glidden wrote:
    > Who cares if they come and help? We probably wouldn't NEED help
    > anyawy. Most of the world does not have the resources the United
    > States has so it is a responsibility as the worlds last remaining
    > super power to be there in a time of need. In fact, I am very
    > disappointed that Australia has commited twice the amount of funds
    > the US has to tsunami aid. We should be doing more.

    Check your facts, Chris. When all added up, the U.S. contribution is
    hands
    down higher than down under's...over?!? 🙂

    I heard a pretty good explanation of how disaster aid works. The
    initial objective is ASSESSMENT, which takes a bit of time and
    personnel to accomplish. If you just pour dollars and materials
    into a place with no way
    to deliver and distribute it when and where needed, it's not very
    effective.
    (Different areas have different needs. Some have no water but food
    supply is ok; others have water but no medicine or hospitals, etc.)
    That's why our
    /initial/ outlay was just $35 million -- to see what was happening
    and what
    would be necessary -- then quickly ratcheted up to $350M. (And
    that's sure
    to grow more, plus all the private and corporate money that's being
    pledged.)

    The sad fact is that the U.S. will be criticized no matter WHAT it
    does, as
    you yourself demonstrate.
    --
    BS (no, really)


    I'm not criticizing at all, just stating how I feel.

    Fair enough...but perhaps getting the facts straight might influence how
    you
    feel? (Although, that's the actual problem in many parts of the world:
    no
    matter WHAT the facts are, the U.S. is hated/resented. Thus this thread!)


    I neither hate nor resent the US, I don't like our current administration.

  11. "cc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    you said:


    "Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > you said:
    >
    >><[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >>> What does over 200,000 dead and more to come have to


    do

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
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    >>> with riding my bike. MTB 05
    >>>
    >>
    >>For starter, they probably MADE your bike, you [censored].
    >
    > Guess I'm glad I got it before they died then huh?
    >>

    Good to know you two don't expect anyone to care when you go.

    Yep good to know! But I have no such expectations as an "ugly
    American" do you? Will the world come help you in a natural disaster?

    realistic much?

    If you're trying to shock and/or anger me with your ignorance, you are


    going

    Quoted message said:

    to have to try much harder. There are many more like you who are better
    spoken and just as clueless.

    E.g.. Carl Marx?

    That is the first time in my post collegiate life that I have ever
    referenced Carl Marx to make a point. Hey, I'm like you!!!

    Thank God for Berkley ------- oh [censored], I'm not supposed to say God ....can I
    still be in the "more enlightened than everyone else" club?

    A thousand pardons,

    Goodoz --

  12. Goodoz said:

    That is the first time in my post collegiate life that I have ever
    referenced Carl Marx to make a point. Hey, I'm like you!!!

    Thank God for Berkley ------- oh [censored], I'm not supposed to say God ....can I
    still be in the "more enlightened than everyone else" club?

    Not only that, you spelled Karl Marx wrong...looks like your single-post
    foray into subversion is a bust!

    --
    -BB-
    To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

  13. "BB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Goodoz said:

    That is the first time in my post collegiate life that I have ever
    referenced Carl Marx to make a point. Hey, I'm like you!!!

    Thank God for Berkley ------- oh [censored], I'm not supposed to say God


    .....can I

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    Quoted message said:

    still be in the "more enlightened than everyone else" club?

    Not only that, you spelled Karl Marx wrong...looks like your single-post
    foray into subversion is a bust!

    --
    -BB-
    To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)


    Now I know I can't be part of the club...Guess I wasn't interested when it
    was force fed in Freshman Humanities...

    Goodoz
    (and thank God for Berkley)

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    "Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    you said:


    "Dave W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >
    >><[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >>> What does over 200,000 dead and more to come have to do
    >>> with riding my bike. MTB 05
    >>>
    >>
    >>For starter, they probably MADE your bike, you [censored].
    >
    > Guess I'm glad I got it before they died then huh?
    >>

    Good to know you two don't expect anyone to care when you go.

    Yep good to know! But I have no such expectations as an "ugly
    American" do you? Will the world come help you in a natural disaster?

    realistic much?

    If you're trying to shock and/or anger me with your ignorance, you are going
    to have to try much harder. There are many more like you who are better
    spoken and just as clueless.

    yeah, and I've been called alot worse by better people. I was trying
    to shock and anger about as much as you were with your silly ass
    attack on crazy...

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  15. you said:
    Goodoz said:

    That is the first time in my post collegiate life that I have ever
    referenced Carl Marx to make a point. Hey, I'm like you!!!

    Thank God for Berkley ------- oh [censored], I'm not supposed to say God ....can I
    still be in the "more enlightened than everyone else" club?

    Not only that, you spelled Karl Marx wrong...looks like your single-post
    foray into subversion is a bust!

    bbbbwwwwwaaaahhahahahahaha

  16. Quoted message said:

    Compassion so they can get on their feet and say death
    to imperial America. Who came running in 2001 on Manhatan Island they
    were all Amerians no out side help. The out siders were laughing so hard
    they couldn't move.

    The British, French, Germans, Belgians and every other member of NATO
    offered all assistance deemed necessary. We borrowed some of their AWACs
    for a while, and even those diametrically opposed to the Iraq quagmire
    still serve as peacekeepers in Afghanistan (and Kosovo).

    --
    --
    Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall
    "We should not march into Baghdad. ... Assigning young soldiers to
    a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning
    them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerilla war, it
    could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater
    instability." George Bush Sr. in his 1998 book "A World Transformed"

  17. Compassion so they can get on their feet and say death
    to imperial America. Who came running in 2001 on Manhatan Island they
    were all Amerians no out side help. The out siders were laughing so hard
    they couldn't move.

  18. Compassion so they can get on their feet and say death
    to imperial America. Who came running in 2001 on Manhatan Island they
    were all Amerians no out side help. The out siders were laughing so hard
    they couldn't move.

  19. And OZ has a fration of the people as the US on that
    big Con Island of theirs.

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    It's typical for us to think that money can show other nations


    that we truly

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    care. This is exactly the capitalist mindset. If money is the most


    important

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    thing, then surely giving it away will gain us resounding support


    in the

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    remainder of the world. Um .... wrong answer.

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    I hope that doesn't explain the 35 million dollar initial response


    from

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    Bush.

    Several ships were already in-route to the area to render aid long
    before GWB stood up to pledge our monitary support in front of the
    news cameras. Nobody ever considered that.. Nor how much that is
    costing us in fuel, food and salaries for that aid to get there and be
    given. Just look at the USNS Mercy, ( http://www.mercy.navy.mil/ )12
    state of the art operatingrooms, a 1,000 bed hospital facility, et....
    Can you even begin to guess at what it takes to operate a ship of that
    size???? a 1000 bed floating hospital, and the complete staff to run
    it.

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