Tsunami devistation

Slacker said:

Ride-A-Lot said:

Raptor said:

Ride-A-Lot wrote:

> Raptor wrote:
>
>> I heard on NPR tonight that annually, 150,000 children die in
>> Indonesia before the age of five from everyday causes like
>> diarrhea, tetanus, malnutrition, etc.
>>
>
> Oh wait a second... NPR. That says it all.

Actually it doesn't. What does it say to you? (It was a journalist
who said it, one who worked that part of the world routinely, being
interviewed about the disaster.)

NPR = National Polit(bureau) Radio

NPR is rad http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4274791

I guess thay have to be played somewhere, since AOR isn't going to do
it. It fits the NPR mentality perfectly... No harm radio. Tell it
like it is as long as it's sweet, innocent, war and violence free.

Ugh, I think I'm going to go and vomit now.

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Ride-A-Lot says...

Quoted message said:

It's very sad, but I think this is a great opportunity for the USA and
especially the citizens of this country to show how compasionate we can
be. Many of the countries that were hit are Muslim countries. A show
of support from the US will surely go a long way to showing them that we
are not against them as the terrorists would have them think.

You expect gratitude? Don't bet on it.

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J G wrote:

Quoted message said:

It's very sad, but I think this is a great opportunity for the USA and
especially the citizens of this country to show how compasionate we can
be. Many of the countries that were hit are Muslim countries. A show of
support from the US will surely go a long way to showing them that we are
not against them as the terrorists would have them think.

It's typical for us to think that money can show other nations that we truly
care. This is exactly the capitalist mindset. If money is the most important
thing, then surely giving it away will gain us resounding support in the
remainder of the world. Um .... wrong answer.

cc said:

It's typical for us to think that money can show other nations that
we truly care. This is exactly the capitalist mindset. If money is
the most important thing, then surely giving it away will gain us
resounding support in the remainder of the world. Um .... wrong
answer.

Oh, horseshit. Just the pure logistics of the campaign led by the U.S. is
astounding, over and beyond the huge monetary outlay. It isn't done to gain
favor.

By your logic we should just say "tough [censored]" -- those Osama-t-shirt-wearing
refugees will hate us anyway.

Anyone who doesn't appreciate our efforts can kiss our ass. (And we'll
STILL save theirs.)
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cc said:

It's typical for us to think that money can show other nations that
we truly care. This is exactly the capitalist mindset. If money is
the most important thing, then surely giving it away will gain us
resounding support in the remainder of the world. Um .... wrong
answer.

Oh, horseshit. Just the pure logistics of the campaign led by the U.S. is
astounding, over and beyond the huge monetary outlay. It isn't done to
gain
favor.

Well, I think that depends on who you ask. I can guarantee you that the
sentiment I was responding to is shared by more than a few folks on the
hill. I'm not saying it's not the right thing to do, or that there are not
many with their heads in the right places, but our foreign policy has shown
that the US is not run by altruists. It's not a black and white issue.

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By your logic we should just say "tough [censored]" -- those
Osama-t-shirt-wearing
refugees will hate us anyway.

That is far from what I am saying. If you would have thought a little longer
before you hunt and pecked this knee-jerk response, you would realize that
it is not the action that I'm objecting to, but our perspective on
humanitarian issues, i.e. "we gave you money, you have to like us now." It
just doesn't work that way.

Quoted message said:

Anyone who doesn't appreciate our efforts can kiss our ass. (And we'll
STILL save theirs.)

Bill, this ridiculous remark only proves my point. Perhaps if we could take
a minute to try and understand other cultures before we decide what is right
for them, we might find ourselves out of our "[censored]" role in world
politics.

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Clearly

cc said:

Perhaps if we could take
a minute to try and understand other cultures before we decide what is right
for them, we might find ourselves out of our "[censored]" role in world
politics.

Huh, and here we are thinking they need shelter, water,and medicine. Silly
us.

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BB said:

cc said:

Perhaps if we could take
a minute to try and understand other cultures before we decide what is
right
for them, we might find ourselves out of our "[censored]" role in world
politics.

Huh, and here we are thinking they need shelter, water,and medicine.
Silly
us.

What the hell are you thinking!?!?!

What they really need is some well positioned claymore mines, anthrax
laced fruit & veggies and a couple hundred thousand Wigi boards.

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cc said:

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Quoted message said:

cc said:

It's typical for us to think that money can show other nations that
we truly care. This is exactly the capitalist mindset. If money is
the most important thing, then surely giving it away will gain us
resounding support in the remainder of the world. Um .... wrong
answer.

Oh, horseshit. Just the pure logistics of the campaign led by the
U.S. is astounding, over and beyond the huge monetary outlay. It
isn't done to gain
favor.

Well, I think that depends on who you ask. I can guarantee you that
the sentiment I was responding to is shared by more than a few folks
on the hill. I'm not saying it's not the right thing to do, or that
there are not many with their heads in the right places, but our
foreign policy has shown that the US is not run by altruists. It's
not a black and white issue.

Then why did you write what you did? Sure sounds black and white.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

By your logic we should just say "tough [censored]" -- those
Osama-t-shirt-wearing
refugees will hate us anyway.

That is far from what I am saying. If you would have thought a little
longer before you hunt and pecked this knee-jerk response, you would
realize that it is not the action that I'm objecting to, but our
perspective on humanitarian issues, i.e. "we gave you money, you have
to like us now." It just doesn't work that way.

There you go again. It's NOT black and white, despite your opinion.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Anyone who doesn't appreciate our efforts can kiss our ass. (And
we'll STILL save theirs.)

Bill, this ridiculous remark only proves my point. Perhaps if we
could take a minute to try and understand other cultures before we
decide what is right for them, we might find ourselves out of our
"[censored]" role in world politics.

So saving their lives and donating the materials to rebuild is "deciding
what's right for them"?

We literally can't win with your "Blame America First" crowd.

BB said:

cc said:

Perhaps if we could take
a minute to try and understand other cultures before we decide what
is right for them, we might find ourselves out of our "[censored]" role
in world politics.

Huh, and here we are thinking they need shelter, water,and medicine.
Silly us.

Bingo.

Bill "BB beats cc in a landslide" S.

And thats human for what the rebels do. And have been
doing for many many years.

No one remembers the earthquake in LA around 84 or 85.
I was asleep 160 miles to the north and it got me out of bed. I didn't
wine like a baby. [censored] happens you got to take like a man.

small change said:

http://homepage.mac.com/demark/tsunami/9.html
before and after sattelite pics

Well worth seeing. Thanks.

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"We should not march into Baghdad. ... Assigning young soldiers to
a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning
them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerilla war, it
could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater
instability." George Bush Sr. in his 1998 book "A World Transformed"

J G said:

What Y'all are seeing on CNN, etc. cannot possibly convey magnitude of
the devistation..... Its fscking wasted. And the STINK, ohh my G*d,
it's enought to make a billygoat puke. So I hear ;-(

http://homepage.mac.com/demark/tsunami/9.html
before and after sattelite pics

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cc said:

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cc wrote:

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So saving their lives and donating the materials to rebuild is "deciding
what's right for them"?

This thread is about tsunami aid. Your attitude is much larger in scope. I
was responding to the latter.

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BB said:

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:58:18 -0800, cc wrote:

Quoted message said:

Bill "BB beats cc in a landslide" S.

I think there must be some alt.scoreboard I'm unaware of. This isn't
ping-pong. One idea doesn't "beat" another idea, Bill.

cc said:

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BB said:

On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:58:18 -0800, cc wrote:

Quoted message said:

Bill "BB beats cc in a landslide" S.

I think there must be some alt.scoreboard I'm unaware of. This isn't
ping-pong. One idea doesn't "beat" another idea, Bill.

In this case it sure does.

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cc said:

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BB wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:58:18 -0800, cc wrote:
>

Quoted message said:

Bill "BB beats cc in a landslide" S.

I think there must be some alt.scoreboard I'm unaware of. This isn't
ping-pong. One idea doesn't "beat" another idea, Bill.

In this case it sure does.

the maturity level is depressing in this ng.

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cc said:

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BB wrote:

> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:58:18 -0800, cc wrote:
>

Quoted message said:

Bill "BB beats cc in a landslide" S.

I think there must be some alt.scoreboard I'm unaware of. This isn't
ping-pong. One idea doesn't "beat" another idea, Bill.

In this case it sure does.

Ahhh!!! I see the problem here. Check his email address. He must be
replying in between listening to NPR. Good ole Stanford! Still
teaching our kids how to be passafists. All those, beads, drums, and
Patchouli went to his head.

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Slacker said:

cc said:

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> BB wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:58:18 -0800, cc wrote:
>>

> Bill "BB beats cc in a landslide" S.
>

I think there must be some alt.scoreboard I'm unaware of. This isn't
ping-pong. One idea doesn't "beat" another idea, Bill.

In this case it sure does.

Ahhh!!! I see the problem here. Check his email address. He must be
replying in between listening to NPR. Good ole Stanford! Still teaching
our kids how to be passafists. All those, beads, drums, and Patchouli
went to his head.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Stanford is not known
for this sort of activism, and is generally not (ignorantly) stereotyped as
you have implied. It is, however, known to be friendly to intelligent
discourse. I made the mistake of thinking that was welcome here. Oops.

cc said:

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cc said:

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> cc wrote:
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So saving their lives and donating the materials to rebuild is
"deciding what's right for them"?

This thread is about tsunami aid. Your attitude is much larger in
scope. I was responding to the latter.

People can re-read the thread to see whose "attitude" a) came first; b) was
"black & white" (your term), and c) is flat-out wrong-minded (using any
excuse to blame "capitalism" when the thread WAS about providing
humanitarian aid...period).

Go ahead and get in your precious last word; I'm done.
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