Tour de Romandie



Andrija said:
Yeah,
And also - where the hell was Savoldelli... And what the hell is going on with him? I saw him in the bottom half of the bunch at the beginning of the climb and that was it. If it's truth this about the stomach bug... Then it's not so bad... It could be worse.
We'll see tomorrow and on Sunday... If he continues the race.

Lim, look at the official site of the race... There they give some live coverage and results.

Andrija, thanks.

yeah i was looking for Stage 3 update on the official site and there's nothing.
I was wondering if Eldrack had another source??
 
I was watching the cycling.tv coverage and Savoldelli was nowhere to be seen for the whole of the last climb. They mentioned something at the end about him being ill. He's now 11:47 down accoding to the official results so maybe he will drop out.
 
The answer is that Savoldelli and many DC members have a stomachache, probably from food.

""Paolo and several members of the team started to have stomach problems early on in the stage," he said from the team hotel. "While the other guys complained of cramps, Paolo's was more severe and he literally had to stop and get off his bike three times in the final 25 km." Demol said that the team doctor was checking on him now and suspects it was something the guys ate at dinner last night in the team hotel.... But Paolo's pretty dehydrated and while he did finish the stage today I do not expect him to start tomorrow. It's the smart decision to make - he has nothing to win now and everything to lose as the Giro is just a week away and only mountains and more suffering for no reason here. I think it's better for him to rest and recover over the weekend and - assuming he's better, of course - start training again on Monday in preparation for the Giro start." Demol went on to say that Savoldelli was a little disappointed at his fate but has good morale overall. Discovery Channel felt that with his performance so far and the final Time Trial coming, a top podium spot - if not the win - was certainly in the cards. Recalling Ivan Basso's similar issue at last year's Giro d'Italia that took him out of the running, Demol was positive about this one. "It could be a lot worse. It's much better that it happened here at Romandie than in the next weeks at the Giro, no? We'll monitor him tonight and make sure everything's OK, but I think he'll be fine and ready to defend his title when we start next Saturday."

But an ill Savoldelli was still able to keep pace with ... you guessed it... JU! :p
 
Ahhhhh the old dodgy stomach routine...... insert name __________ (PDM team, Hamilton etc etc.)

Think the vampires paid a visit that morning and suggested some of the boys finish off the pace to avoid any controversy with the men in white coats….

....smart move.

Interesting enough I’m in Australia at the moment and picked up the local copy of “Ride” magazine which has a retrospective on Berzin the Russian rider from Gewiss in the early 90’s……. there is actually an interview with Ferrari telling how after Berzin and the “Gewiss express” took 1-2-3 at FW there was a young man in the peleton riding for Motorola who was also trying to win. This young man was so impressed by Berzin that he came and spoke to Ferrari after the race to find out the secret was. From that point Armstrong and Ferrari worked together and it was the same race that Ferrari made the EPO/Orange juice comment. I’ll scan the article in when I get back to London and post on the board. Very interesting.



musette said:
The answer is that Savoldelli and many DC members have a stomachache, probably from food.

""Paolo and several members of the team started to have stomach problems early on in the stage," he said from the team hotel. "While the other guys complained of cramps, Paolo's was more severe and he literally had to stop and get off his bike three times in the final 25 km." Demol said that the team doctor was checking on him now and suspects it was something the guys ate at dinner last night in the team hotel.... But Paolo's pretty dehydrated and while he did finish the stage today I do not expect him to start tomorrow. It's the smart decision to make - he has nothing to win now and everything to lose as the Giro is just a week away and only mountains and more suffering for no reason here. I think it's better for him to rest and recover over the weekend and - assuming he's better, of course - start training again on Monday in preparation for the Giro start." Demol went on to say that Savoldelli was a little disappointed at his fate but has good morale overall. Discovery Channel felt that with his performance so far and the final Time Trial coming, a top podium spot - if not the win - was certainly in the cards. Recalling Ivan Basso's similar issue at last year's Giro d'Italia that took him out of the running, Demol was positive about this one. "It could be a lot worse. It's much better that it happened here at Romandie than in the next weeks at the Giro, no? We'll monitor him tonight and make sure everything's OK, but I think he'll be fine and ready to defend his title when we start next Saturday."
 
musette said:
The answer is that Savoldelli and many DC members have a stomachache, probably from food.

! :p
LOL... This must be the oldest excuse in cycling... I'm curious, however, did any other team suffer from the food?
 
DV1976 said:
LOL... This must be the oldest excuse in cycling... I'm curious, however, did any other team suffer from the food?

Looks like it was a very bad day for DC : they all finished very low on the stage today.

152 finishers today - DC riders were placed 132, 133, 134, 139, 140, 142.

No other team has that proportion of riders in the the last 20 finishers today.
 
I would agree with that, Valverde is the favourite to win from a select group of climbers who drop everyone else on the last climb then head for home together. However do not count out the Liberty Seguros factor. They have at least 3 riders who can be there at the finish (Contador, Jaksche, Kasheckin) and so we could see one of them attacking the group to get a stage win as Contador did today.
 
whiteboytrash said:
Interesting enough I’m in Australia at the moment and picked up the local copy of “Ride” magazine which has a retrospective on Berzin the Russian rider from Gewiss in the early 90’s……. there is actually an interview with Ferrari telling how after Berzin and the “Gewiss express” took 1-2-3 at FW there was a young man in the peleton riding for Motorola who was also trying to win. This young man was so impressed by Berzin that he came and spoke to Ferrari after the race to find out the secret was. From that point Armstrong and Ferrari worked together and it was the same race that Ferrari made the EPO/Orange juice comment. I’ll scan the article in when I get back to London and post on the board. Very interesting.
It is an interesting article.
They have a few digs at Armstrong in that issue. See also the bit about Floyd winning Paris-Nice and saying that if he wins a Tour he'll be as popular as Armstrong in the US because he can ride and has a personality that fans can actually like...
 
Good mag as well... I bought BiCycling as well which has an good article on EPO in it.... very scientific..... they said in next month edition they will present the Armstrong and Heras cases and give the science behind the readings… I wont be here for the release dates of the mag but maybe someone in Oz can send to me when it comes out or scan it in….?


patch70 said:
It is an interesting article.
They have a few digs at Armstrong in that issue. See also the bit about Floyd winning Paris-Nice and saying that if he wins a Tour he'll be as popular as Armstrong in the US because he can ride and has a personality that fans can actually like...
 
whiteboytrash said:
Good mag as well... I bought BiCycling as well which has an good article on EPO in it.... very scientific..... they said in next month edition they will present the Armstrong and Heras cases and give the science behind the readings… I wont be here for the release dates of the mag but maybe someone in Oz can send to me when it comes out or scan it in….?
PM me with your details for the bicycling magazine.

Just to clarify - it was the author saying that Floyd has a likeable personality (unlike Armstrong), not Floyd saying that.
 
If Floyd wins the next 10 TDF's no one in America will know who he is.......Or care. He is not even popular now with cycling fans here in America.
 
wolfix said:
If Floyd wins the next 10 TDF's no one in America will know who he is.......Or care. He is not even popular now with cycling fans here in America.
I like Floyd as a rider but he has the personality of three day old oatmeal.
Bland and distasteful.
He really has no charisma or the little personality I see is kind of annoying.
Face it, between his talent and his cancer recovery Armstrong will be remembered more than any cyclist in history.
Fact.

Floyd is a weird dude.
And no American rider currently has the personality, charisma, or marketing savvy that Lance did.
Zabreeskee is like some thirteen year old class clown.
Floyd is like some sixteen year old class clown.
Tyler is whiny.
Tom Danielson is like the kid you used to stuff in a locker in sixth grade for looking like someone's sister.
Horner is a crackpot and a bigmouth.
Julich is a nice guy and smart and over.
To be a star takes more than winning races.

Davide Rebellin has won some big races and yet is not a star has no charisma and is a nothing in the media.

Boonen wins races, does it with style, has charisma. looks the whole package...now he has to learn to market himself. and watch his mouth.

Petacchi wins virtually anything he does but is boring as a figure or sports personality. The way he races is boring. He is a nice guy I guess and very quiet. But no interest generated except he wins races.

Cipollini? need I say anything? The ideal.

Mercxk--won with flair and panache.
 
Well I really like Levi Leipheimer but unfortunately he doesn't look to be good enough to win anything big any time soon. But yea, I could never really get into Floyd Landis' style, he does seem a bit boring.
 
whiteboytrash said:
Ahhhhh the old dodgy stomach routine...... insert name __________ (PDM team, Hamilton etc etc.)

Think the vampires paid a visit that morning and suggested some of the boys finish off the pace to avoid any controversy with the men in white coats….

....smart move...

wasn't going to say anything but.. yeah, that's what came to my mind too.. usually means the Disco doctor did the pre-test and the flashing lights and sirens went off and he told them.. guys you can't finish in the top 'cause you'll get automatic tested and you have diarrhoea so if you do get tested you hematocrit is too high because of the dehydration...

Valverde still has Saturday to do something.. the boys from Liberty... Contador and Jaksche can smoke a TT so if Valverde not ahead on Saturday i think his chances for the win are pretty much shot... Evans seems to be coming into form now though... should be interesting.
 
DV1976 said:
LOL... This must be the oldest excuse in cycling... I'm curious, however, did any other team suffer from the food?
They do not eat the same food. All it would take is just a touch of something spoiled in a dish to infect all the riders that ate that particular food. Savoldelli was reported to have gotten of his bike 3 diferent times. That would be hard to fake.
 
whiteboytrash said:
Ahhhhh the old dodgy stomach routine...... insert name __________ (PDM team, Hamilton etc etc.)

Think the vampires paid a visit that morning and suggested some of the boys finish off the pace to avoid any controversy with the men in white coats….

....smart move.

Interesting enough I’m in Australia at the moment and picked up the local copy of “Ride” magazine which has a retrospective on Berzin the Russian rider from Gewiss in the early 90’s……. there is actually an interview with Ferrari telling how after Berzin and the “Gewiss express” took 1-2-3 at FW there was a young man in the peleton riding for Motorola who was also trying to win. This young man was so impressed by Berzin that he came and spoke to Ferrari after the race to find out the secret was. From that point Armstrong and Ferrari worked together and it was the same race that Ferrari made the EPO/Orange juice comment. I’ll scan the article in when I get back to London and post on the board. Very interesting.



Very interesting.. please post it.
 
Nah dont see Valverde winning today. He'll be in the select over the last mountain, but the others will work against him just like they did on thursday. The others dont want to sprint against him. Well, depending on the size of the group, if he's got somebody there to work for him.. but I'll expect some of the other teams to have more than one rider in that also.