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  1. So today 2 weeks after I bought it I broke my Sun😠! I folded the
    seatpost in half, and even though they tryed to straighten it at the
    shop, there was only so much they could do and its still badly bent. I
    guess I could buy a new seatpost, but I was planning on getting a new
    Uni by the end of the month anyway.

    Now for the question:

    I was originally set on getting a trials uni, but now I am considering a
    muni because of the strength. I will have about $200 U.S. and I was
    considering the Nimbus Trials for $169, that way I could afford a good
    set of pedals along with it. Now I am thinking that may not be strong
    enough, and I started looking at entry level 24in. munis because of
    their strength. I am 5'10" and 225lbs, would I be better off with the
    muni or the trials?

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  2. well, the rim on the trials is typically stronger, but its the strength
    of the hub and crankset I would be worried about if I was you. the entry
    level munis are typically not designed for drops, and most can handle
    drops of about 10 inches, and that is only for riders weighing 165
    pounds or less. I would go for the nimbus trials, or save for a little
    while longer and get a better one. Butif you are impatient like me, get
    the nimbus, and run the tire on higher pressure (not too high, mind you,
    unless you are the next Kris Holm!) than you normally would a trials
    tire. that should hold up just fine for you until you get into the
    bigger and more technical stuff.

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  3. If you have the money, i would spend it to get a high quality trials
    such as onza or KH...you wont regret it, but what you will regret is
    buying a cheaper one and eventually either breaking it or wanting to
    move onto something better like the KH and spend the money
    anyway....your choice i guess.

    Look at it this way, i was buying a muni and originally going to buy a
    Nimbus, then somehow i started thinking and ended up spending about $700
    on my muni. And i feel it was well worth it, im very happy. Goodluck.

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  4. Is the rest of the uni OK? If its just a broken seat post get the Sun up
    and running. A functional unicycle is better than no unicycle.

    How did you fold the seat post?

    As for your next uni, sounds like your headed for drops and trials. Save
    up for splined hub and cranks.

    I'm 5'10 and 180. I use a Torker DX 20 as a heavy-duty freestyle and
    regularly do 2 foot drops. The spokes creak but its holding up well. I
    bent cranks on lesser drops with the square taper hubs.

    I like my trials better for drops though, softer landing.

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  5. Whoa, it's time to thread jack! Sorry, but it's necessary.

    Doofe! Dude! Mortal Decay, Atheist, At The Gates, Cryptopsy, Deeds Of
    Flesh, Gorguts, Immolation, Incantation, Suffocation... the almighty
    Morbid Angel!!!

    ROCK ON!!

    \m/ 😠 \m/

    Plus, you were born exactly one month after me. Trippy huh?

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  6. UniBrier said:

    *Is the rest of the uni OK? If its just a broken seat post get the Sun
    up and running. A functional unicycle is better than no unicycle.

    How did you fold the seat post?

    As for your next uni, sounds like your headed for drops and trials.
    Save up for splined hub and cranks.

    I'm 5'10 and 180. I use a Torker DX 20 as a heavy-duty freestyle and
    regularly do 2 foot drops. The spokes creak but its holding up well. I
    bent cranks on lesser drops with the square taper hubs.

    I like my trials better for drops though, softer landing. *

    I broke it when I tried to raise it and realized it had dents in the
    lower (non-exposed) part, it bent there. I can still ride it because we
    re-straightened it, but its not very good. There may be a tiny chance I
    could move up to the yuni trials, but if I dont order a new uni by the
    end of the month I will have to wait a month and a half of summer
    school.😠

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  7. concretewave said:

    I broke it when I tried to raise it and realized it had dents in the
    lower (non-exposed) part, it bent there.

    The dents are caused by the low quality seatpost clamp. Don't waste
    your money on a new seatpost without also replacing the clamp (which
    can be removed by grinding off the welds). Decent clamps cost US$5 at
    Unicycle.com.

    Ken

  8. The way i see it is that Suns are good for learning to ride on. But as
    soon as I good do tricks I got a new uni of of unicycle.com.

    I'm a little over 5ft and 104lb. I use a united 20'' muni.

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  9. concretewave said:

    *

    I broke it when I tried to raise it and realized it had dents in the
    lower (non-exposed) part, it bent there. I can still ride it because
    we re-straightened it, but its not very good. There may be a tiny
    chance I could move up to the yuni trials, but if I dont order a new
    uni by the end of the month I will have to wait a month and a half of
    summer school.😠 *

    If I remember correctly, the Nimbus and Yuni are very similar. In fact,
    I think the Nimbus is better then the Yuni has the Suz hub and the
    Nimbus has the new hardened uni.com hub.

    Another option is looking at the Torker DX. If you need a wider frame
    to accommodate a wider tire, Yuni frames are cheap. The Torker has the
    advantage of having a better hub/crank set. It also has the
    disadvantage of a weaker rim. Personally, I think the hub and cranks
    are more important.

    Then again, you could always just spring for a KH and not have to worry
    about it for a very long time.

    Daniel

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  10. Quoted message said:

    I was originally set on getting a trials uni, but now I am considering
    a muni because of the strength.

    What makes you think munis are stronger than trials?

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  11. Munis are heavier and they look beefier. If I can snag some odd jobs
    and maybe sell a few old things I may have enough for an ONZA in time.
    That thing looks amazing and beefy as hell is it as good as the KH, Is
    it worth getting?

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  12. Hey, concretewave! Welcome to the forum.

    This almost hurts me to tell you, but based on your history and size, I
    can almost guarantee that you'll soon have trouble with any non-splined
    rig you get, including the Nimbus Muni.

    If you just can't wait, go ahead and get the Nimbus and start saving
    immediately for a KH hub and crank set, which you can lace in at a later
    date. But avoid drops if you don't want bent cranks!😉

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  13. Yes, exactly, though i was trying to say that without mentioning your
    size/weight. Not that your heavier than average. But you have to
    remember that when it comes down to it your placing all your weight on a
    small amount of metal binds.

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  14. I am going to try and save up for the ONZA, it is one sweet looking uni,
    when I searched I found that it may be hard to find replacement parts
    for is this true?

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  15. What kind of riding are you planning on doing? If you're planning on
    doing trials, get a trials uni. If you're planning on doing MUni, get a
    MUni. ...or do you ride street, freestyle or some hybrid of all of
    these?

    For me, I have a trials uni which I hardly use just because it seems so
    slow! I think a trials uni is good for little other than trials +
    street. If you actually want to get anywhere, get something larger.

    As for strength, I doing think a Muni is going to be appreciably
    stronger than a Trials uni of comparable quality.

    Get the cycle that's going to fit your style. If you plan on doing this
    a while, spend a few extra $$$. It's totally worth it.

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  16. I'm not sure why so many people believe the Muni to be stronger than a
    trials. When broken down, a trials uni should be much stronger than the
    muni.

    Lets see, All components such as hub/frame/cranks will be the exact
    same on comparable muni/trials cycles--so that is not an issue. So
    basically when it all comes down to it, its the tire. And physically
    speaking, the rim with the smaller circumfrence should be strong, not
    nearly as much room for warping or flat spots, its gonna be a much
    tighter more responsive wheel, and similar tire widths will also be
    usec.,...trials would win in a fight...

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  17. I just saw a post where a guy took a Torker DX and turned it into a
    trials UNI by using a DX32 rim and getting a new tire and some other
    stuff. It said this can be done for under 300. I have no wheel
    building experience, would this be to hard for me to do? I am thinking
    that it would be better to stick with a prebuilt uni, like the Nimbus,
    or another.

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  18. If youve never built a wheel and you dont know how, yes it would be
    difficult. And yoru wheel would probobly be [censored]. The thing about
    turning a torker into a trials is that the frame leaes very little
    clearance for alarge tire. So you would be unable to use a good large
    bouncy tire such as the luna etc.. I'm not sure how this other guys
    tire turned out but if i were you id stick with your plan of onza.

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  19. that is really nice, how much would shipping be? Also how would I pay,
    could I still use a USPS money order.

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  20. fluffinator007 said:

    If youve never built a wheel and you dont know how, yes it would be
    difficult. And yoru wheel would probobly be [censored].

    I don't think wheelbuilding is that difficult or mysterious, though it
    takes several hours for a novice. I learned from a book and I've
    never built a bad wheel. It is just a matter of being methodical and
    patient.

    Ken

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