Stage 19 - Saturday, July 28: Cognac - Angoulême, 55.5km
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TV sports are corrupt.nns1400 said:
IOC is corrupt
WADA is corrupt
The UCI is corrupt
The ASO needs to make money
The athletes are doped
tests get lost, tainted, fixed all of the time
That's why Roid Landis and Tyler Hamilton are still angry.
Um, that's a rather...broad explanation. You know all, Master House, tell me the details...........(I agree that's why Landis thinks he won "fair and square.")Doctor.House said:
What tests are given to stage winners? Whatever Lance tells them? Come on........
Typically after a stage--the rider goes AWOL for 30 minutes. (saline feed and or diuretic)
Then upon entering the windowless Dope Contol van----is often handed a newspaper and told to read for 15 minutes. If it is the Tour Leader, they sign autographs for 15 minutes, then leave without ever peeing.
You gotta love the charade or it.
btw: That is confirmed true.
Then upon entering the windowless Dope Contol van----is often handed a newspaper and told to read for 15 minutes. If it is the Tour Leader, they sign autographs for 15 minutes, then leave without ever peeing.
You gotta love the charade or it.
btw: That is confirmed true.
nns1400 said:
the winner of the stage is supposed to be tested automatically. typically it is a urine test, unless you are from astana. then they will draw blood which is the case with vino and kloden. thats how vino was busted. he was given the other test doc spoke about. this is not specualtion. it is all verifiable.nns1400 said:
What sucks about the TT is that Capel and Levi were short changed by the results. Things would have been much different if Rasmussen had been dismissed earlier or even prior to the Tour.
Remember Cadel was simply trying to hold on to third during Col d'Aubisque and Levi was trying to break Rasmussen. If either had known they would be competing for first they would have ridden Stage 16 totally different and most likely Levi or Capel would have won the Tour today.
As for Rasmussen, the whole matter stinks, as he seems to have been used as a pawn in the battle of the Cylcing Politicos. For all you Disco freaks, what did Ras do any different than your hero Lance for seven years. During Lance's run, it was well documented that he was friends with some questionable cylcing Docs. He even had a Domestique or two say that Lance took roids. All the while, Lance passed each drug test during the Tours. Though, I forget supposedly some frozen sample of his from 2002 or so has since been found to be positive. But again, that is dismissed as simply the French being French.
So how is that Ras passed 12 or more tests during the 2007 Tour and one before the Tour and still got booted because some reporter saw him in Italy when he was supposed to be in Mexico. Let me tell you if I was getting ready for the Tour and I was riding in Mexico, it wouldn't be day before I was back on plane to train in Italy. Have you ever driven a mountain road in Mexico in car let alone a bike. The only roads without Potholes and breaks in the pavements are the Toll roads and they don't allow for bikes. What makes matters worse, is still nothing substantial has been confirmed. It is all hearsay. It smells like a fix if you ask a betting man.
In the end, I couldn't even watch the last few stages after the listening to the doublespeak of the Politcos and the pompous speeches from the Versus crew.
Remember Cadel was simply trying to hold on to third during Col d'Aubisque and Levi was trying to break Rasmussen. If either had known they would be competing for first they would have ridden Stage 16 totally different and most likely Levi or Capel would have won the Tour today.
As for Rasmussen, the whole matter stinks, as he seems to have been used as a pawn in the battle of the Cylcing Politicos. For all you Disco freaks, what did Ras do any different than your hero Lance for seven years. During Lance's run, it was well documented that he was friends with some questionable cylcing Docs. He even had a Domestique or two say that Lance took roids. All the while, Lance passed each drug test during the Tours. Though, I forget supposedly some frozen sample of his from 2002 or so has since been found to be positive. But again, that is dismissed as simply the French being French.
So how is that Ras passed 12 or more tests during the 2007 Tour and one before the Tour and still got booted because some reporter saw him in Italy when he was supposed to be in Mexico. Let me tell you if I was getting ready for the Tour and I was riding in Mexico, it wouldn't be day before I was back on plane to train in Italy. Have you ever driven a mountain road in Mexico in car let alone a bike. The only roads without Potholes and breaks in the pavements are the Toll roads and they don't allow for bikes. What makes matters worse, is still nothing substantial has been confirmed. It is all hearsay. It smells like a fix if you ask a betting man.
In the end, I couldn't even watch the last few stages after the listening to the doublespeak of the Politcos and the pompous speeches from the Versus crew.
limerickman said:
I told you these events were rigged. And few people believed me.Klodifan said:
Sigh, but I am always right about these things.
Okay, expand on that. The winner is tested automatically. But not with the same test? Some get pee, some get blood, or both? Which acronym decides this? What is the protocol?Klodifan said:
Where is this info available ---not just from past reporting, for which I would love a link or two please, but from race days? How does anyone know this stuff? What tests did they get today?
No, I am capable of writing sentences.Andrew76 said:
What did I say that is so unintelligent?
You sir, have made no point germane to the thread.
I cant answer your question but I can state that I think a lot of riders are close to clean throughout the 3 weeks of the tour. Most of the doping takes place during the training stage, when you build the right muscle to weight ratios, when you slim down your upper bodies and tune up your legs and when you want to be able to train hard without knocking yourself out too much.nns1400 said:
A lot of riders cant be tested positive during the actual tour since there is nothing to be found. Rasmussen for example will definately have been hit with every test available but could not be found positive.
As for todays stage. I only saw the end of it to be honest but the outcome is good although I would have liked it if Evans would have come even closer to Contador than he already did. I wonder if Lotto will try to have a gofor the jersey and if yes, how.
And also wonder if DC might try to ensure their own yellow jersey by allowing Levi to go on a breakaway. Everyone will expect DC to lead the peleton and they will, but that will give them a chance to let Levi break from it when a group goes. I guess it would be up to Lotto and/or the sprinters teams to close the gap then. Lotto in first instance probably.
Will be nice to see if any plays will be made and if DC would be willing to play against its own jersey holder at the moment.
Incorrect.
All riders receive trauma care treatments on a daily basis. 100%
That is 3-6 injections and at least one IV feed, inhalations, pills, creams and gels. (testosterone, EPO, hGH, insulin, corticoids, asthma, thyroid)
Top teams do more Frankenstein doping stuff during the race.
Doping is a year round activity of daily living. (ADL)
All riders receive trauma care treatments on a daily basis. 100%
That is 3-6 injections and at least one IV feed, inhalations, pills, creams and gels. (testosterone, EPO, hGH, insulin, corticoids, asthma, thyroid)
Top teams do more Frankenstein doping stuff during the race.
Doping is a year round activity of daily living. (ADL)
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