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Quoted message said:Last guess...since it seems to be a relatively common phenomenon, then it must have something to
do with stimluation of those nerve(s) or nerve roots contributing to urination. It seems that
bladder control is part of the sacral nerve roots (S1 - S4) and therefore the reclined position
may be providing posterior pressure on these nerve roots causing the urgency and frequency.
you won't put pressure on those nerves that way...S1 thry S4 are already naturally fused together
the nerves that control the bladder/ bowels are in the cauda equina(my injury) at the l5/s1 level
or for higher level Thoriac injuries it would be at the conus medullaris which is at the end of
the spinal cord.. when they are damaged you don't get a false sense to pee at a lower bladder
volume , like you would get from a UTI. you have retention or leakage. at least that what I have
learned from spinal cord injury. when you have damage those nerves you usually have bladder and
bowel problems which means you cant empty your bladder completely or at all ,and have to insert a
cather( hollow tube via penis) into your bladder to empty it, it will totally empty the bladder.
like a tube on the bottom of a camel back bladder. higher level spinal cord injuries sometimes
cannot retain fluid once it gets past a certain fluid level the sphincter muscle in the bladder
will leak or the bladder wall will spontaneous contract , if you don't wear a external if you
bend over you may wet your pants.
what I found with the higher bottom bracket of the Vrex , even when I cathed, and had a totally
empty bladder , which I had to sometimes 10 x a day or more. I learned to do anyplace, in the
woods , 6000 times latter you get pretty good at it! I would have to again pee within 1 hour , and
I was monitoring my fluid intake. to try and not drink to much , since cathing took up
supplies(weight/space and don't want to run out) and needed a bit more time and privacy, sure
could scare some one it they walked in on you doing the plumbing job! I would use a type of cath
that had a self contained collection bag for the urine and it had markings , so I knew exactly how
much fluid was in my bladder. this was important, too full a bladder is bad for bladder and
kidneys. if the urge to pee was happening when you had under 250ml it usually meant a UTI , there
was always over 350ml inside me which is about the normal message to brain you have to pee . this
wouldn't happen on my lower bottom bracket bike like the BikeE, lower legs pumping and I would
pump less urine into my bladder. I would have a normal time span with peeing and relative to urine
intake and sweat output .. so I saw a big measurable difference in actually urine production with
a higher bottom bracket as opposed to a low bb bike both recumbents, with similar seats, with my
injury i had to carefully monitor my bladder fullness,
Even if you have no major medical problem, as men get older the prostate enlarges, it gets harder to
empty the bladder, and you need to urinate more often.
As I mentioned in posting #54, there is no reason to be uncomfortable because you need to urinate,
and it is easy to pee while riding and nobody will notice. If you are worried about someone noticing
a small piece of tubing hanging down from the front of the seat, you can run some tubing to the
lowest point of your bent and have it come up to the front of the seat from underneath. You can even
disguise the tubing by enclosing it. You can use a connector to the tubing to the device. The device
I described in #54 is my favorite.
You can also buy an external catheter for around $2.00. They are made of latex and double as a
weenie warmer in cold weather. You can just leave it in place for the whole ride, and when you
dismount for breaks, just pull in the short piece of tubing to inside your clothing before you
dismount. However, I prefer the simple device already described.
Another possibility is the device with a piece of tubing inside your tights in the winter down to
your ankles, a little longer than that, and pull the tubing below your heel and pee with your leg
at its lowest point while coasting, then pull the tubing up just a little so it does not show
when done.
I find peeing is easiest on down hills, since there are some muscles that need to relax when you
pee. The only evidence will be a streak along the road. However, roads tend to have streaks caused
by ruts, tire marks, and stuff like that so the streak will not be as noticeable as you would first
think. I suppose if anybody ever notices, you could say your water bottle must be leaking again.
If you are on a group ride, just be at the back if you are worried about somebody noticing.
Byron
