Reckless, Aggressive Drivers: Homegrown Terrorists



On Feb 19, 10:17 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Feb 19, 1:34 pm, "David White" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <[email protected]> wrote in
> > messagenews:7d9e4b9f-ed19-49f6-9d24-de9c5803e7a5@q70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

>
> > > I've been saying for years that criminal drivers are the real
> > > terrorists.  Your chances of being killed or maimed by a speeder or
> > > DUI are a thousand times greater than by some mad bomber. Americans
> > > are such idiots for buying into this arab terrorism ****.

>
> > My family have been a victim of both. I had a cousin killed on 9/11, andhis
> > father was killed by a mindless driver who ran a red-light. I only have to
> > know that the first one exists. The second, I have to worry about, and watch
> > for on a daily basis. Especially when I'm traveling on 2 wheels.

>
> That's my point. Most of us have never been  endangered by a terrorist
> but we are endangered by by criminal drivers every day.  And yet which
> is the idiot american most concerned with.?


Exactly right. The statistics won't lie: 3,000 at the Towers (a one
time event) vs. 40,000 on the road every year, of which 25,000 could
be saved if we were to have the safety rates of Sweden.

Yet people are told that the issue is terrorism and not road
terrorism. They take the picture of your ass going through the
airport, but fail to put a speed camera at troublesome spots. It's
like they don't care...
 
"Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Which is why I think all people who can, should ride a M/Cycle to
> prove they can drive adequately....failing the test can mean a failure in
> a
> close casket.....not much to add to that...
>
> Although some need a 4 wheeler for cargo space, 90% of them don't,
> and gobble up the city's parking spaces horrendously. In my City, the
> meter
> maids and insurance companies dump on the M/C guys big time, in a vain
> attempt to cause as much damage as possible to the environment and keep
> the
> accident flow coming their way.....


Just wait for gas to get even pricier than it is now, and
I think we'll start to see a lot more cagers looking
longingly at two-wheeled transportation. In the
cities, probably be a lot more scooters - even seen,
say, downtown Taipei during rush hour?

Bob M.
 
Bob wrote:

> Which is why I think all people who can, should ride a M/Cycle to
> prove they can drive adequately....failing the test can mean a
> failure in a close casket....

^^^^^^

Calling Dr. Freud, calling Dr. Freud...

Bill "or did you mean /closed/ casket?" S.
 
On Feb 20, 11:35 am, "Bob Myers" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Which is why I think all people who can, should ride a M/Cycle to
> > prove they can drive adequately....failing the test can mean a failure in
> > a
> > close casket.....not much to add to that...

>
> > Although some need a 4 wheeler for cargo space, 90% of them don't,
> > and gobble up the city's parking spaces horrendously. In my City, the
> > meter
> > maids and insurance companies dump on the M/C guys big time, in a vain
> > attempt to cause as much damage as possible to the environment and keep
> > the
> > accident flow coming their way.....

>
> Just wait for gas to get even pricier than it is now, and
> I think we'll start to see a lot more cagers looking
> longingly at two-wheeled transportation.  In the
> cities, probably be a lot more scooters - even seen,
> say, downtown Taipei during rush hour?
>
> Bob M.


Yeah, but prices are not nearly high enough to make people move into
scooters. Maybe above $8.

Parking spaces could be another factor. Small compact cities like Key
West (pop. 25,000) rely a lot on scooters and bikes.

And last but not least the factor that keeps most people from trying
two wheels is... FEAR. In the land of the dinosaurs, the little furry
animals must be very careful. :)
 
On Feb 20, 2:24 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> That is what some govts and the U.N. and U.S.fed govts want.To shoehorn
> people into little bitty so called cars and the cars are to little for
> big folks like I am.Either that, or get everybody pushing bicycle pedals
> or simply walking to wherever.
> cuhulin


You are not very clever, are you?

The UN receives a large chunk of their budget from the US, and the US
Federal Govt. just wants you to spend more, so they can get a larger
piece of the pie.

Do you know what's wrong with a jungle that produces War,
Environmental Recklessness and SUVs?

"In a society dominated by the fact of commercial competition, money
is necessarily the test of prowess, and wastefulness the sole
criterion of power." -Upton Sinclair, book 'The Jungle'

***

Yet I don't see any reason that you may feel threaten by bicycles. The
opposite is true though.
 
On Feb 19, 11:34 am, "." <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Feb 19, 8:52�am, donquijote1954 <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > I've vowed to fight terrorism... ROAD TERRORISM. It's not even that I
> > go looking for trouble, trouble looks for me, and sometimes for those
> > near me.

>
> Hey, Donkey Hotay. Fidel Castro finally resigned, now Raul is running
> the country.
>
> With any luck, you can pedal your bicycle back to Havana soon.
>
> Do ya think Raul will end communism in Cuba, or is he going to be the
> new Lion in the Jungle?


motors are for wimps, or people that don't come equipped with anything
else between their legs.
 
On Feb 19, 2:10 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I've been saying for years that criminal drivers are the real
> terrorists. Your chances of being killed or maimed by a speeder or
> DUI are a thousand times greater than by some mad bomber. Americans
> are such idiots for buying into this arab terrorism ****.


no kidding, 44k each year... more than all the homicides with a gun, a
knife, a candlestick put together.
More people die at the hands of motorists each year than have died in
Iraq & Afghanistan during both Bushes' tenure, hell throw Somalia &
Clinton's watch into the totals too - still the grim reaper arrives in
a Ford.
Not to diminish the brave men & women of our armed forces who
volunteer for duty in harm's way, but the numbers say that our
highways rack up a greater loss. Just the other day there was an
article in the local snooze about a soldier, home from his second tour
of someplace sandy, who died in a MVC, it's a shame - but it's the way
it is. If you want to make our streets to be safer you need not worry
about guns, focus on automobile control and get more bang for yer buck.
 
"donquijote1954" <[email protected]> wrote

> You are not very clever, are you?


And then...

> Yet I don't see any reason that you may feel threaten by bicycles. The
> opposite is true though.


Now: exactly who was it you were accusing of being "not very clever"?
 
Michael Baldwin wrote:
> When anonymous posters write -
>
>> Americans are such idiots for buying into this arab terrorism
>> ****.

>
> - I think yep, we American idiots. We American idiots who have a
> Democratic Republic so vibrant, that we have a woman running for
> president, in a country that less than 90 years ago didn't even allow
> woman to vote.
>
> We American idiots who once as a nation divided, warred over the
> issue of race and equality, now stands ready to test those
> convictions and possibly elect an African-American to the highest
> office in the land.
>
> We American idiots. Where a POW, upon returning home from another
> senseless war, chooses to continue his service to his country as a
> U.S. Congressman and possibly President of the United States as well.
>
> We Americans idiots. Whose ideals are embraced by the worlds
> oppressed and scorned by those who fear it's truth.
>
> Best Regards - Mike Baldwin


Thanks for that. In the midst of a seemingly endless election, it's nice to
be reminded that the 3 candidates remaining have 3 good stories to tell.
 
In article <db5f3697-e800-467e-9f43-eb6d558807b9@j28g2000hsj.googlegroups.com>,
DennisTheBald <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Feb 19, 11:34 am, "." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Do ya think Raul will end communism in Cuba, or is he going to be the
>> new Lion in the Jungle?

>
>motors are for wimps, or people that don't come equipped with anything
>else between their legs.


Hmm... I have to admit, I've never tried it, but I really don't think
that works well for transportation.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
 
>Michael Baldwin wrote:
>When anonymous posters write -
>Americans are such idiots for buying into this arab terrorism
>****.
>- I think yep, we American idiots. We American idiots
>who have a Democratic Republic so vibrant, that we have
>a woman running for president, in a country that less
>than 90 years ago didn't even allow woman to vote.
>We American idiots who once as a nation divided, warred
>over the issue of race and equality, now stands ready
>to test those convictions and possibly elect an African-American to
>the highest office in the land.
>We American idiots. Where a POW, upon returning home from
>another senseless war, chooses to continue his service to his
>country as a U.S. Congressman and possibly President of the
>United States as well.
>  We Americans idiots. Whose ideals are embraced by the worlds
>oppressed and scorned by those who fear it's truth.
>Best Regards - Mike Baldwin


ZBicyclist says

Thanks for that. In the midst of a seemingly endless election, it's nice
to be reminded that the 3 candidates remaining have 3 good stories to
tell.


Mike replied, Thank You.

I know I'm blessed in this life to live in the greatest nation of
people on earth...the next time around I doubt I'll be so lucky!

Best Regards - Mike Baldwin
 
Bob wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:34:55 GMT, "David White" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> |>> terrorists. Your chances of being killed or maimed by a speeder or
> |>> DUI are a thousand times greater than by some mad bomber. Americans
> |>> are such idiots for buying into this arab terrorism ****.
> |>
> |>My family have been a victim of both. I had a cousin killed on 9/11, and his
> |>father was killed by a mindless driver who ran a red-light. I only have to
> |>know that the first one exists. The second, I have to worry about, and watch
> |>for on a daily basis. Especially when I'm traveling on 2 wheels.
>
>
> Which is why I think all people who can, should ride a M/Cycle to
> prove they can drive adequately....failing the test can mean a failure in a
> close casket.....not much to add to that...
>
> Although some need a 4 wheeler for cargo space, 90% of them don't,
> and gobble up the city's parking spaces horrendously.[...]


How well does the motorcycle work in the snow, ice and cold? I have not
seen anyone on a motorcycle around here for over three months.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
 
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:11:49 -0600 in rec.bicycles.misc, Tom
Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:

> The convincing evidence for the responsible parties for that event has
> never been presented to the public.
>

oh, please. what part of the video of bin laden laughing about
it did you not understand?

PLONK.
 
In article <[email protected]>,
donquijote1954 <[email protected]> writes:

> I've vowed to fight terrorism... ROAD TERRORISM.


That's a laudable quest, but how exactly
are you going to go about it? What means
and methods have you toward that end?
What is your strategy?

It has to be more effective than just
playing Usenet prophet.

You'd have to be something like RoboCop,
going around & fscking up road terrorists
("Freeze, scum.")

If you could make spike belts shoot out
of your wrists like Spiderman, than would
be something.

Watch out for The Green Hornet (& Kato.)
He /is/ a road terrorist. And I have my
suspicions about The Punisher and
Fat Freddie's cat.

Thank goodness we have anti-road-terrorist
guys like you to defend us good people.


--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
 
On Feb 20, 6:30 pm, DennisTheBald <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Feb 19, 11:34 am, "." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 19, 8:52�am, donquijote1954 <[email protected]>
> > wrote:

>
> > > I've vowed to fight terrorism... ROAD TERRORISM. It's not even that I
> > > go looking for trouble, trouble looks for me, and sometimes for those
> > > near me.

>
> > Hey, Donkey Hotay. Fidel Castro finally resigned, now Raul is running
> > the country.

>
> > With any luck, you can pedal your bicycle back to Havana soon.

>
> > Do ya think Raul will end communism in Cuba, or is he going to be the
> > new Lion in the Jungle?

>
> motors are for wimps, or people that don't come equipped with anything
> else between their legs.


You got a point there:

"No doubt about it: When you want to have fun put a bicycle between
your legs. Some substitutions are allowed..."

(check front of T-shirt)

http://www.zazzle.com/ride_shirt-235520928427805825

And about the frugal scooters? They only got a little motor...

"A little motor can be a lot of fun between your legs. And it saves a
lot of gas!"

http://www.zazzle.com/scooter_shirt-235994025243531447
 
On Feb 20, 8:12 pm, "P. Roehling" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "donquijote1954" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> > You are not very clever, are you?

>
> And then...
>
> > Yet I don't see any reason that you may feel threaten by bicycles. The
> > opposite is true though.

>
> Now: exactly who was it you were accusing of being "not very clever"?


You don't even have to be clever to get it.

It means in plain English that bicycles, scooters and motorcycles are
threatened by SUVs and not the other way around it.
 
On Feb 20, 11:26 pm, Tom Sherman <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Bob wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:34:55 GMT, "David White" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > |>> terrorists.  Your chances of being killed or maimed by a speeder or
> > |>> DUI are a thousand times greater than by some mad bomber. Americans
> > |>> are such idiots for buying into this arab terrorism ****.
> > |>
> > |>My family have been a victim of both. I had a cousin killed on 9/11, and his
> > |>father was killed by a mindless driver who ran a red-light. I only have to
> > |>know that the first one exists. The second, I have to worry about, andwatch
> > |>for on a daily basis. Especially when I'm traveling on 2 wheels.

>
> >    Which is why I think all people who can, should ride a M/Cycle to
> > prove they can drive adequately....failing the test can mean a failure in a
> > close casket.....not much to add to that...

>
> >    Although some need a 4 wheeler for cargo space, 90% of them don't,
> > and gobble up the city's parking spaces horrendously.[...]

>
> How well does the motorcycle work in the snow, ice and cold? I have not
> seen anyone on a motorcycle around here for over three months.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> The weather is here, wish you were beautiful- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Sorry you live in Siberia. Come to Key West and you'll seem them all:
bicycles, scooters, EVs, cars, and, of course, Supersized Unnecessary
Vehicles (mostly from Miami).

But you have a summer too, don't you?
 
On Feb 21, 4:35 am, [email protected] (Tom Keats) wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>         donquijote1954 <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > I've vowed to fight terrorism... ROAD TERRORISM.

>
> That's a laudable quest, but how exactly
> are you going to go about it?  What means
> and methods have you toward that end?
> What is your strategy?
>
> It has to be more effective than just
> playing Usenet prophet.
>
> You'd have to be something like RoboCop,
> going around & fscking up road terrorists
> ("Freeze, scum.")
>
> If you could make spike belts shoot out
> of your wrists like Spiderman, than would
> be something.
>
> Watch out for The Green Hornet (& Kato.)
> He /is/ a road terrorist.  And I have my
> suspicions about The Punisher and
> Fat Freddie's cat.
>
> Thank goodness we have anti-road-terrorist
> guys like you to defend us good people.
>
> --
> Nothing is safe from me.
> I'm really at:
> tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca


Short of calling Superman or Batman, we can catch the bad guys in SUVs
by sticking together. Same strategy developed by the sardines 300
million years ago. Bicycles can get together and ride the lane, just
like any other vehicle. Similar to Critical Mass but without
antagonizing the motorists who in the end are also trapped in the
cages. And also, unlike Critical Mass, we would ride the road every
day for real transportation.

This T-shirt can fit the bill (I've renounced to any profit on it)...

http://www.cafepress.com/burncalories

Then if everything fails, we call on Clark Kent. ;)