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  1. The golden rule is, if you are threatened by cows and have a dog with you
    let the dog off the lead, this both helps to distract the cows from being
    interested in you, and the dog should always manage to reach safety quickly,
    as you are heading for the nearest safe point of exit to the field.

    If you are walking on a public right of way over farm land, the farmer has a
    responsibility not to graze potentially aggressive stock in such pastures.
    I also think the farmers has to place signage at field entry points if bulls
    are in fields with P.R.O.W. crossing them

    Also see http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/ais17.pdf

    Rob S

  2. "Robin" wrote

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    If you are walking on a public right of way over farm land, the farmer has


    a

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    responsibility not to graze potentially aggressive stock in such


    pastures.

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    I also think the farmers has to place signage at field entry points if


    bulls

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    are in fields with P.R.O.W. crossing them

    Yes, I could take you to a field in Surrey overlooked by a big house where
    there are always signs warning of a Bull in the field, I have yet to see it.
    Could they be there to dissuade walkers from using the path in front of the
    house? Surely not. :-)

    --
    Regards
    Bob
    in Runnymede, 17miles west of London, UK

  3. [email hidden] said...

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    The golden rule is, if you are threatened by cows and have a dog with you
    let the dog off the lead,


    Eh? And frighten the cows? I don't think so.
    --
    Fran
    If you need my email address please ask.

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    The golden rule is, if you are threatened by cows and have a dog with you
    let the dog off the lead,


    Eh? And frighten the cows? I don't think so

    Actually, Fran, this is to all intents and purposes now the DEFRA
    recommendation.

    John
    ---
    John Gardner
    Caving Routes in the Northern Pennines: http://braemoor.co.uk/cavingtrip
    A Walking Guide to Chartreuse: http://braemoor.co.uk/chartreuse

  5. In article <[email hidden]>, John Gardner
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The golden rule is, if you are threatened by cows and have a dog with you
    let the dog off the lead,


    Eh? And frighten the cows? I don't think so

    Actually, Fran, this is to all intents and purposes now the DEFRA
    recommendation.

    Presumably that would give the farmer the right to shoot the dog for
    "worrying " his cattle!
    --
    Bill Grey
    http://www.billboy.co.uk

  6. "W. D. Grey" <[email hidden]> wrote

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    Presumably that would give the farmer the right to shoot the dog for
    "worrying " his cattle!

    Bit one sided that isn't it? Presumably you're not allowed to shoot cows
    for worrying your dog.

  7. W. D. Grey <[email hidden]> wrote

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    In article <[email hidden]>, John Gardner
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > The golden rule is, if you are threatened by cows and have a dog with you
    > let the dog off the lead,
    >
    Eh? And frighten the cows? I don't think so

    Actually, Fran, this is to all intents and purposes now the DEFRA
    recommendation.

    Presumably that would give the farmer the right to shoot the dog for
    "worrying " his cattle!

    Not many 'pet' dogs would face up to a cow with it's head lowered, of
    course a male border collie might be a different story, but I don't
    regard them as 'pets'.
    --
    Gordon

  8. "Fran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:

    The golden rule is, if you are threatened by cows and have a dog with


    you

    Quoted message said:
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    let the dog off the lead,


    Eh? And frighten the cows? I don't think so.


    I remember many years ago when I was a child out walking somewhere in the
    countryside and we let the dog off in a field, she immediately ran up to a
    cow and barked, if you'll pardon the pun and metaphor, this was like a red
    rag to a bull, the cow charged and the dog fled. Luckily for the dog, the
    field was surrounded by a hedge and not a dry stone wall. The dog just flew
    through the hedge to get away from the cow, if the field had been a few
    yards wider, the dog would not have made it.

    Regards

    Bernard

  9. In article <[email hidden]>, AndyP
    <[email hidden]> writes

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    "W. D. Grey" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Presumably that would give the farmer the right to shoot the dog for
    "worrying " his cattle!

    Bit one sided that isn't it? Presumably you're not allowed to shoot cows
    for worrying your dog.


    Quite !
    --
    Bill Grey
    http://www.billboy.co.uk

  10. In article <[email hidden]>, Malcolm
    <[email hidden]> writes

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    Bit one sided that isn't it? Presumably you're not allowed to shoot cows
    for worrying your dog.


    If the cows in question had entered your property where you would
    normally expect your dog to be safe from being worried by them, then
    yes you could do something to remedy the situation, though the law
    would not be on your side if you chose to shoot them!


    But then we all know the "The Law is a ASS"
    --
    Bill Grey
    http://www.billboy.co.uk

  11. Always assume cattle to be dangerous and give them a wide berth. They
    will not attack anyone who is not, in their opinion, a threat.

    That may sound like unnecessary advice but only the other day my
    daughter-in-law was standing in our garden watching the local bull in
    the adjoining field, where he stood just a few metres from our fence.
    He was becoming quite agitated by her staring but she didn't recognise
    the signs - I was forced to take her by the arm and ease her away from
    the flaring nostrils and lowered head before he decided that our fence
    was not to come between the two of them!

    --
    Cheers,
    Compo


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    If the cows in question had entered your property

    For what it's worth, I would advise that the farmer should be notified
    immediately if his stock entered your garden. Let him take the
    responsibility (and risk) for removing them.

    --
    Cheers,
    Compo

  13. Paul Simonite wrote on Sat, 24 Jul 2004 12:14:51 +0100....

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    Quoted message said:
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    If the cows in question had entered your property

    For what it's worth, I would advise that the farmer should be notified
    immediately if his stock entered your garden. Let him take the
    responsibility (and risk) for removing them.

    A cow once jumped over my parents' garden fence.

    Father (on phone to police at about 2am on a Saturday night):
    "There's a cow in our back garden."

    Policeman: "Oh, yes, sir?"

    --
    Tim Jackson
    [email hidden]
    (Change '.invalid' to '.co.uk' to reply direct)
    Absurd patents: visit http://www.patent.freeserve.co.uk

  14. In article <[email hidden]>, Malcolm
    <[email hidden]> writes

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    But then we all know the "The Law is a ASS"

    Please stay on topic. We were discussing cows not donkeys.....

    Ewe're quite right of course.:-)
    --
    Bill Grey
    http://www.billboy.co.uk

  15. W. D. Grey said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Malcolm
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    But then we all know the "The Law is a ASS"

    Please stay on topic. We were discussing cows not donkeys.....

    Ewe're quite right of course.:-)

    A suitably sheepish response, if I may say so.

    saki

  16. "Tim Jackson" <[email hidden]> wrote

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    A cow once jumped over my parents' garden fence.

    Father (on phone to police at about 2am on a Saturday night):
    "There's a cow in our back garden."

    Policeman: "Oh, yes, sir?"

    Friend of mine had some bantam chickens years ago. One day they escaped
    and the next door neighbour was a bit taken aback when we knocked on her
    door and enquired "Have you seen my [censored]?"

  17. Sorry, that had nothing to do with the discussion did it.

  18. Paul Simonite <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If the cows in question had entered your property

    For what it's worth, I would advise that the farmer should be notified
    immediately if his stock entered your garden. Let him take the
    responsibility (and risk) for removing them.


    if they were sheep I'd keep my mouth shut until they'd trimmed the
    grass. Horses leave it uneven.
    --
    Gordon

  19. Robin said:

    If you are walking on a public right of way over farm land, the farmer has a
    responsibility not to graze potentially aggressive stock in such pastures.
    I also think the farmers has to place signage at field entry points if bulls
    are in fields with P.R.O.W. crossing them

    I seem to remember reading somewhere that a bull is only a threat if it's
    in a field with cows, and a bull in a field on it's own is ok. Does this
    make any sense?

    --
    Gary Webster
    Birmingham, England.

  20. In message <[email hidden]>, W. D. Grey
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Malcolm
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    But then we all know the "The Law is a ASS"

    Please stay on topic. We were discussing cows not donkeys.....

    Ewe're quite right of course.:-)

    And there was no need to shout, it'll only make him hoarse.

    --
    Martin Richardson
    239/284 Munros - 15% to go 34/34 'Furths' & 439/439 Nuttalls - 0% to go
    42/89 Donalds - 53% to go 0/? Himalayans - 100% to go
    442/1552 Marilyns - 72% to go

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