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In article <[email hidden]>, Malcolm <[email hidden]> writes > >In article <[email hidden]>, W. D. Grey ><[email hidden]> writes >>In article <[email hidden]>, Malcolm >><[email hidden]> writes >>>> But then we all know the "The Law is a ASS" >>> >>>Please stay on topic. We were discussing cows not donkeys..... >> >>Ewe're quite right of course.:-) > >Well, at least I didn't have to ram it home. > Fell for that - like a lamb to the slaughter. -- Bill Grey http://www.billboy.co.uk
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"W. D. Grey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, Malcolm > <[email hidden]> writes > > > >In article <[email hidden]>, W. D. Grey > ><[email hidden]> writes > >>In article <[email hidden]>, Malcolm > >><[email hidden]> writes > >>>> But then we all know the "The Law is a ASS" > >>> > >>>Please stay on topic. We were discussing cows not donkeys..... > >> > >>Ewe're quite right of course.:-) > > > >Well, at least I didn't have to ram it home. > > > Fell for that - like a lamb to the slaughter. > -- > Bill Grey > http://www.billboy.co.uk
Oh deer. Can we let the buck stop with me?
Why? Are you due at a stag party?
Oh dear - d'oh
Mairsy d'ohts and d'ohsy d'ohts.... -- Fran If you need my email address please ask.
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In article <[email hidden]>, Malcolm <[email hidden]> writes > >In article <[email hidden]>, W. D. Grey ><[email hidden]> writes >>In article <[email hidden]>, Malcolm >><[email hidden]> writes >>>> But then we all know the "The Law is a ASS" >>> >>>Please stay on topic. We were discussing cows not donkeys..... >> >>Ewe're quite right of course.:-) > >Well, at least I didn't have to ram it home. > Fell for that - like a lamb to the slaughter.
Oh deer. Can we let the buck stop with me?
Brian
OK I'll go and HIDE
How very thick-skinned of you! -- Fran If you need my email address please ask.
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Oh deer. Can we let the buck stop with me?
I had a pair of Muntjac cavorting in sight of my landing window on Thursday morning but they didn't stay. The buck did stop occasionally though.
-- Roger Chapman so far this year 39 summits New - 22 (Marilyns 8, Sweats 5, Outlying Fells 11) Repeats - 17( Marilyns 6, Sweats 12, Wainwrights 11) Knackered knee - 4 times
I was staying with friends on their farm last year when we realised that one of the two bulls had decided that his herd of cows was not enough and that he wanted the herd with the other bull, too, and we watched as he just walked through two supposedly "stock-proof" fences as if they weren't there. He didn't run at them, just walked steadily and irresistibly forwards. An awesome sight.
Seen that done.. Scarey... And given what a PITA fencing is - annoying.
They like earth moving too.. Wash your bull and the first thing they do is find a bank and try and walk into it head down.... Ruins those lovely white curls....
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Yes, but what breed of bull. As you weren't on a PROW the farmer could run whatever bulls he liked with his cows. Dairy bulls are acknowledged as dangerous even with cows which is why they are banned from paths.
I'm not sure - it was a long time ago. Brown and white probably a Guernsey or Hereford, not that I particularly remember him being a Hereford though.
Big red/marron and white brick Sh***use that looks like a bull = Hereford. Probably will lick you to death
Small mean orangy brown cow like thing = Guernsey - Start praying.
Happilly most farmers will not handle channel island bulls, they like living, so these beasts are rare. Thank goodness for AI
WARNING: on several Eastern European trips I have encounterd Jersey like bulls on paths. Evil unless proved otherwise (then untrustworthy) Very scarey.. Not all countries try and segregate us from agressive bovines.
The quoted document also details the incident rate - ~1 death/year, which demonstrates that while you can get killed that way, there are much easier options.
Usual danger is in handling... Bull pushes you against a building or gatepost. Agression is a less common cause of death. Scariest thing I have done not involving a Big Mountain or Driving test was handling bulls indoors, even if they were Herefords.
Worth remembering the Lanarkshire gas engineer who was attacked and killed in a road while working by a bull who walked through a fence to get him though...
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Dairy bulls are acknowledged as dangerous even with cows which is why they are banned from paths.
Are those the ones painted black and white?
Not necessarily .. Friesians are B&W but so are some beef varieties (which cattle farmers, like rabbit breeders, insist on calling 'Blue and White'. Colour blind, all of them).
Friesian - beef shorthorn cross cattle are a lovely shade of blue..
There are a red/white variety of friesian as well - not to be confused with Ayrshires.. And I cannot tell them apart.
I see, thanks. We saw some very strangely marked B & W cattle, the white being like a broad band around their middles, and each 'end' being black. Their colouring looked artificial!
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Roger <[email hidden]> wrote > > Dairy bulls are acknowledged >as dangerous even with cows which is why they are banned from paths. > Are those the ones painted black and white?
Not necessarily .. Friesians are B&W but so are some beef varieties (which cattle farmers, like rabbit breeders, insist on calling 'Blue and White'. Colour blind, all of them).
Friesian - beef shorthorn cross cattle are a lovely shade of blue..
Is that 'farmers' idea of 'blue', or something the rest of the population would consider blue (ink, sky, water .. you get the idea) ??
-- GSV Three Minds in a Can Outgoing Msgs are Turing Tested,and indistinguishable from human typing.
Friesian - beef shorthorn cross cattle are a lovely shade of blue..
There are a red/white variety of friesian as well - not to be confused with Ayrshires.. And I cannot tell them apart.
Since F & M (and the guvmint) wiped out so many cattle, I have seen a couple of herds near here, on and near my usual exercise walk route. They are a very attractive rich brown colour, not exactly mahogany, but close, and I assume they are a new breed to the area. -- Gordon
I see, thanks. We saw some very strangely marked B & W cattle, the white being like a broad band around their middles, and each 'end' being black. Their colouring looked artificial!
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The much loved "Beltie" Belted Galloway.
Whilst all the resident cow experts are assembled here, I thought I caught sight of some in a roadside field the other day that were miniature cows like a bovine version of shetland ponies. Is there something like that? (Please don't say calves, they didn't look young).
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I see, thanks. We saw some very strangely marked B & W cattle, the white being like a broad band around their middles, and each 'end' being black. Their colouring looked artificial!
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The much loved "Beltie" Belted Galloway.
Whilst all the resident cow experts are assembled here, I thought I caught sight of some in a roadside field the other day that were miniature cows like a bovine version of shetland ponies. Is there something like that? (Please don't say calves, they didn't look young).
Dexters?
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Whilst all the resident cow experts are assembled here, I thought I
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sight of some in a roadside field the other day that were miniature cows like a bovine version of shetland ponies. Is there something like that? (Please don't say calves, they didn't look young).
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Dexters?
No, not if they're all black. These were black and white. There are a few different breeds of miniature cattle apparently according to this website I've just looked up. Cute.
In article <[email hidden]>, RJ Webb <[email hidden]> writes
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Worth remembering the Lanarkshire gas engineer who was attacked and killed in a road while working by a bull who walked through a fence to get him though...
A pal of mine and I helped a local farmer to gather his small heard of Welsh Blacks into an enclosure so that he could separate out a calving cow.
The bull was in there with the girls and the whole lot were just going round and round while farmer was doing his nut trying to single out the prospective mother. The bull, having had quite enough of his harem pushing him round in circles, just quietly put his not inconsiderable spread of horns beneath the 5 bar gate and just lifted it high in the air and then the cows scattered back to the field. The farmer wasn't amused.
That bull was just like a fork lift truck - gate? - No Probs. -- Bill Grey http://www.billboy.co.uk
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Small mean orangy brown cow like thing = Guernsey - Start praying.
Happilly most farmers will not handle channel island bulls, they like living, so these beasts are rare. Thank goodness for AI
Probably a Guernsey - definitely an annoyed Guernsey !
He was licking the baler twine "lock" on the rickety gate, the pawing the ground intently. My chainman asked me not to annoy the bull. I was standing on the roof of the Landrover at the time :-) -- Bill Grey http://www.billboy.co.uk
In article <[email hidden]>, RJ Webb <[email hidden]> writes
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Worth remembering the Lanarkshire gas engineer who was attacked and killed in a road while working by a bull who walked through a fence to get him though...
A pal of mine and I helped a local farmer to gather his small heard of Welsh Blacks into an enclosure so that he could separate out a calving cow.
The bull was in there with the girls and the whole lot were just going round and round while farmer was doing his nut trying to single out the prospective mother. The bull, having had quite enough of his harem pushing him round in circles, just quietly put his not inconsiderable spread of horns beneath the 5 bar gate and just lifted it high in the air and then the cows scattered back to the field. The farmer wasn't amused.
That bull was just like a fork lift truck - gate? - No Probs.
Had a couple of cows like that once.. One had even tried to raid the kitchen after escaping. All gates were tied down when ever the horned ones (a Hereford and the pet Jersey) were billeted.
My mother decided to try growing her own vegetables etc,, The above Hereford , a most prehistoric beast, was most grateful for the new varied diet and the project soon ended.
