<RANT> Losing someone

In article <[email hidden]>,

CJ Jones said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dan Abel said:

When our son died, she tried to comfort me by saying that,
"It was God's will".

That one pisses me off more than ANY other statement!!! <grrr>
Why do people think that that is such a comfort?

Sorry, that just set me off........ :-(

I have yet to meet ANYone that is comforted by that!

I'm an atheist, and my book is godless grief, (godlessgrief.com), so I
really REALLY get [censored] when folks think that some invisible being had
better plans...it really irks me too! Or the line, "she's lucky to be
ina better place"
No if she was lucky, she'd be alive or if there was even more luck, not
sick ever. You're dead on, it's one of my deepest wounds to hear others
'bless' someone.

Again, in the book, I make it emphatically clear...honor those feelings
of the one who is gone, and let your own feelings be as honest as they
are. There's no right or wrong in grieving, but there is a wrong in
telling other people how to..and comments like' "it was god's will"
says, "you know you're feelings are worthless, because an invisible
friend of mine has put this plan forth."

WOW. Thanks..sorry I had to add my own rant.

CJ

It's ok. :-)
It feels good to rant sometimes.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob Terwilliger' virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:

Dee wrote about cancer:

Quoted message said:

I pray that someday this world will beat this horrendous disease.

If you have a fairly good understanding of what cancer is on a cellular
level, you can figure out why stem-cell research showed such great promise
in overcoming it.

Bob

Still does show promise, if it is allowed to progress.

It's hell having a Blind and deaf president!

There's nothing to prevent its progress. There are limits on public
funding of embryonic stem cell research. There's plenty of private
money available for ESC research, and there is public and private money
available for adult stem cell research.

Adult stem cell breakthoughs are more promising, and have no ethical
issues to deal with, and the patient's own stem cells can be harvested
so there are no "graft vs host" autoimmune problems. That's where the
cures will come from in the next 20 years, but it's more politically
expedient to scream about embryonic stem cells.

There's more than enough serious things to criticize President Bush
about (illegal wiretaps that could easily have been legal if he had made
any effort, no plan in IRAQ, about half of the WMD thing was [censored],
etc.) But he called the stem cell thing exactly right, in my opinion.

Best regards,
Bob

In article <[email hidden]>,

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob Terwilliger' virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:

Dee wrote about cancer:

Quoted message said:

I pray that someday this world will beat this horrendous disease.

If you have a fairly good understanding of what cancer is on a cellular
level, you can figure out why stem-cell research showed such great promise
in overcoming it.

Bob

Still does show promise, if it is allowed to progress.

It's hell having a Blind and deaf president!

The only promise that has been shown was in adult stem cells. There
has been no, and I mean zero, success with embryonic stem cells.

Regards,
Ranee

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Bill said:

ou're post really hits home to me Andy! I am very sorry about your
loss. I have been watching my wife slowly dieing with lung cancer for
the last year and a half. She went through radiation treatments and
chemotherapy treatments. Now, she has only weeks according to her
doctor. Up until a month ago she was taking another course of
chemotherapy treatments. She was five weeks into a nine week treatment
once a week. She got so sick in that fifth week she really believed
the doctor was going to kill her with the treatment. She said no
more...I will take no more chemotherapy. So, the doctor has turned her
over to hospice care...we have a hospital bed in the dining room where
she lies all day...she can get up and walk eight steps to the bathroom
but other than that she stays in bed all day. It's a terrible disease
that seems to just keep eating away at her. She smoked.
I lost my Dad back in June. He smoked too! He contracted a special
"gum" cancer that only people who both smoke and drink liquor seem to
catch. It started as a toothache. He got the tooth pulled back in
January. A couple of weeks went by and it was still hurting him. He
went back to the dentist and the dentist referred him to another
doctor who did a biopsy. They determined there was cancer in the gum
and recommended removing all his teeth and part of his gums saying
this would probably cure him. It didn't. The cancer kept eating away.
A sore appeared on his jaw in May as a reddened area. It kept getting
worse until a hole opened in his jaw. Instead of healing it just kept
getting larger and larger until he died in June. Slow motion
death...that's what cancer is.

I'm really sorry to hear this. We've gone through it with our
family, as well.

Regards,
Ranee

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On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 22:32:54 -0500, Bill <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Andy q said:

I don't rant in Usenet much anywhere but today's the the day and this
is the place.

My brother's wife Lauri died this morning of lung cancer.

I wonder if all the chemo and radiation didn't shorten her life, but it
sure didn't save it.

She was a better sister to me than my own. [I know that's selfish, it's
just the way I'm feeling at the moment]

Andy
There were Richard Pryors and Jonny Cash's but there was also Lauri
Stickel. [R.I.P.]

At least she's got her father to look after her.

</RANT>

you're post really hits home to me Andy! I am very sorry about your
loss. I have been watching my wife slowly dieing with lung cancer for
the last year and a half. She went through radiation treatments and
chemotherapy treatments. Now, she has only weeks according to her
doctor. Up until a month ago she was taking another course of
chemotherapy treatments. She was five weeks into a nine week treatment
once a week. She got so sick in that fifth week she really believed
the doctor was going to kill her with the treatment. She said no
more...I will take no more chemotherapy. So, the doctor has turned her
over to hospice care...we have a hospital bed in the dining room where
she lies all day...she can get up and walk eight steps to the bathroom
but other than that she stays in bed all day. It's a terrible disease
that seems to just keep eating away at her. She smoked.
I lost my Dad back in June. He smoked too! He contracted a special
"gum" cancer that only people who both smoke and drink liquor seem to
catch. It started as a toothache. He got the tooth pulled back in
January. A couple of weeks went by and it was still hurting him. He
went back to the dentist and the dentist referred him to another
doctor who did a biopsy. They determined there was cancer in the gum
and recommended removing all his teeth and part of his gums saying
this would probably cure him. It didn't. The cancer kept eating away.
A sore appeared on his jaw in May as a reddened area. It kept getting
worse until a hole opened in his jaw. Instead of healing it just kept
getting larger and larger until he died in June. Slow motion
death...that's what cancer is.

Bill

thanks for caring folks!

"Bill" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

thanks for caring folks!

Of course we do. I'm also thinking rfc'ers and theirs got hit
really hard this year. Hang in there.

nancy

In article <[email hidden]>,

Nancy Young said:

"Bill" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

thanks for caring folks!

Of course we do. I'm also thinking rfc'ers and theirs got hit
really hard this year. Hang in there.

nancy

Agreed... :-(

It's been a rough year all around!

Hang in there Bill, and HUGS!!!!!!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

"Bill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

I have been watching my wife slowly dieing with lung cancer for

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the last year and a half. She went through radiation treatments and
chemotherapy treatments. Now, she has only weeks according to her
doctor. Up until a month ago she was taking another course of
chemotherapy treatments. She was five weeks into a nine week treatment
once a week. She got so sick in that fifth week she really believed
the doctor was going to kill her with the treatment. She said no
more...I will take no more chemotherapy. So, the doctor has turned her
over to hospice care...we have a hospital bed in the dining room where
she lies all day...she can get up and walk eight steps to the bathroom
but other than that she stays in bed all day. It's a terrible disease
that seems to just keep eating away at her. She smoked.
I lost my Dad back in June. He smoked too! He contracted a special
"gum" cancer that only people who both smoke and drink liquor seem to
catch. It started as a toothache. He got the tooth pulled back in
January. A couple of weeks went by and it was still hurting him. He
went back to the dentist and the dentist referred him to another
doctor who did a biopsy. They determined there was cancer in the gum
and recommended removing all his teeth and part of his gums saying
this would probably cure him. It didn't. The cancer kept eating away.
A sore appeared on his jaw in May as a reddened area. It kept getting
worse until a hole opened in his jaw. Instead of healing it just kept
getting larger and larger until he died in June. Slow motion
death...that's what cancer is.

Bill

thanks for caring folks!

Cancer - and its treatment - are hell on earth. I am full of compassion for
you and your wife. I have lost two beloved people in the last few months to
that deadly disease. My thoughts are with you and your wife, Bill.

Dora