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  1. Andy q said:

    I don't rant in Usenet much anywhere but today's the the day and this
    is the place.

    Quoted message said:

    My brother's wife Lauri died this morning of lung cancer.

    My condolences, sir.

    I lost my dad in 2003 and my mom in 2004, both near the holidays.
    Just last month my brother and I finally got around to scattering
    their ashes in the Pacific. It's been a difficult slog, and the
    holidays will never, ever be the same for me.

    You and your family are in my thoughts.

    --
    Mark Shaw
    ========================================================================
    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new
    discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny....'" - Isaac Asimov

  2. "Andy" <q> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I don't rant in Usenet much anywhere but today's the the day and this
    is the place.

    My brother's wife Lauri died this morning of lung cancer.


    I'm so sorry Andy.

    Elisa

  3. Andy said:

    I don't rant in Usenet much anywhere but today's the the day and this
    is the place.

    My brother's wife Lauri died this morning of lung cancer.

    I'm writing a book on grief. I started it after someone close died for
    something stupid like illness... Remember, EVERY emotional roller
    coaster you go through, and all of the weird feelings and ways you want
    to deal with this are completely okay...venting online or beating up an
    old pillow or even laughing at things you and your brother did when he
    and she were dating. It's all the right thing to do, say or feel. Don't
    let anyone tell you otherwise.
    {{{{{{{andy}}}}}}}}

    CJ

  4. Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Andy said:


    My brother's wife Lauri died this morning of lung
    cancer.

    So sorry to hear of your loss. Nothing can replace her and
    my condolences for her loss to you and your brother.

    MoM

  5. One time on Usenet said:

    I don't rant in Usenet much anywhere but today's the the day and this
    is the place.

    My brother's wife Lauri died this morning of lung cancer.

    I wonder if all the chemo and radiation didn't shorten her life, but it
    sure didn't save it.

    She was a better sister to me than my own. [I know that's selfish, it's
    just the way I'm feeling at the moment]

    I lost my mother the same way, back in '97. You've got my sincerest
    sympathies, Andy...

    --
    Jani in WA (S'mee)
    ~ mom, Trollop, novice cook ~

  6. Andy said:

    I don't rant in Usenet much anywhere but today's the the day and this
    is the place.

    My brother's wife Lauri died this morning of lung cancer.

    I wonder if all the chemo and radiation didn't shorten her life, but
    it sure didn't save it.

    She was a better sister to me than my own. [I know that's selfish,
    it's just the way I'm feeling at the moment]

    Andy
    There were Richard Pryors and Jonny Cash's but there was also Lauri
    Stickel. [R.I.P.]

    At least she's got her father to look after her.

    </RANT>

    My sympathies!

    --
    Dan Goodman
    Journal http://www.livejournal.com/users/dsgood/
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    John Arbuthnot (1667-1735), Scottish writer, physician.

  7. Andy said:

    I don't rant in Usenet much anywhere but today's the the day and this
    is the place.

    My brother's wife Lauri died this morning of lung cancer.

    I wonder if all the chemo and radiation didn't shorten her life, but it
    sure didn't save it.

    She was a better sister to me than my own. [I know that's selfish, it's
    just the way I'm feeling at the moment]

    Andy
    There were Richard Pryors and Jonny Cash's but there was also Lauri
    Stickel. [R.I.P.]

    At least she's got her father to look after her.

    </RANT>

    I'm sorry, Andy. My sympathy to you and your family.
    Death is a relentless enemy.

    gloria p

  8. In article <[email hidden]>, Andy <q>

    Quoted message said:

    I hope you're right. My next worry is that my brother can hold it
    together to take care of matters.

    The first year will be the worst.
    Watch him carefully!

    It's been 3 years now since my beloved mom's passing and she was my very
    best friend. I still cry sometimes but I'm coping better. I was a basket
    case for nearly a year. I don't know how I kept things together at all.

    I know how bad it hurts and how utterly devastating it can be.

    Quoted message said:


    Sometimes things aren't planned and we've only spoken briefly.

    As long as she knew she was loved, he should have few regrets.

    Quoted message said:


    But Lauri's free of that cancer riddled body, but it still ain't fair.

    Life sucks sometimes.
    Just be there for him.

    Quoted message said:


    Andy
    Gave up smoking Wed. Sept. 1, 2004 10a.m.

    Ohh! Are you still on the wagon?

    Quoted message said:


    Who claimed life was fair anyway?

    :-(

    More hugs!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  9. Andy,

    I am so sorry for your loss.

    I lost a dear friend to the dreaded lung disease just a week before the
    High Holidays. I don't know if we ever get over the loss, but I do
    know that we have to try to get thru it!

    My thoughts are with you,
    NancyJaye

  10. OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote in news:Omelet-
    [email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Andy <q>

    Quoted message said:

    I hope you're right. My next worry is that my brother can hold it
    together to take care of matters.

    The first year will be the worst.
    Watch him carefully!

    I remember when Mom passed Dad just refused to donate Mom's clothes.

    I'm in limbo as far as the vieing and the funeral and being on opposite
    coasts, I'm tempted to leave today but I'll hope to hear from Steve today.

    That kind of "keeping it together"

    Quoted message said:

    It's been 3 years now since my beloved mom's passing and she was my very
    best friend. I still cry sometimes but I'm coping better. I was a basket
    case for nearly a year. I don't know how I kept things together at all.

    Coping takes incredible strength.

    Quoted message said:

    I know how bad it hurts and how utterly devastating it can be.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Sometimes things aren't planned and we've only spoken briefly.

    As long as she knew she was loved, he should have few regrets.

    Agreed. I missed her the instant I heard.

    I sent her a bouque of flowers every week when she started the chemo and
    radiation. Steve kept calling with thanks. It was the least I could do.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    But Lauri's free of that cancer riddled body, but it still ain't fair.

    Life sucks sometimes.
    Just be there for him.

    Quoted message said:


    Andy
    Gave up smoking Wed. Sept. 1, 2004 10a.m.

    Ohh! Are you still on the wagon?

    Yes but I'm not out of the woods by any stretch of the imagination.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Who claimed life was fair anyway?

    :-(

    More hugs!

    {{{hugs}}}

    Andy

  11. Andy I am sorry to hear of your great loss. My thoughts are with you.
    Hugs, Margaret

  12. Andy said:

    I don't rant in Usenet much anywhere but today's the the day and this
    is the place.

    My brother's wife Lauri died this morning of lung cancer.

    I wonder if all the chemo and radiation didn't shorten her life, but it
    sure didn't save it.

    She was a better sister to me than my own. [I know that's selfish, it's
    just the way I'm feeling at the moment]

    In the introduction to _Angry Candy_, Harlan Ellison recounted the funeral
    of his friend Emily:

    ==========================BEGIN QUOTE=======================

    We sat through the early part of the service, and we perhaps heard the
    remarks and sentiments from the minister, Mr. Richelieu. Then he called on
    me, and everything I'd wanted to say about Emily, about her warmth and
    decency and flawless friendship and personal strength, all of it fled, and I
    was angry. There is no other word, I was just goddamned *angry*!

    Richelieu had done that standard number about the deceased going on to a
    better place, that Emily was at peace at last, that we could all take heart
    in the sure and certain knowledge that she was watching us from on high, and
    smiling at us.

    And I began speaking, and I'm not sure exactly what I said, but it was
    something like this:

    It's not seemly to speak harshly at the funeral of someone you loved, and
    who's gone away, and you miss so much it squeezes your chest when you think
    about them. It's not right to make a big scene and cry about how it hurts
    when you ask that lost friend a question, and she's not there to answer, as
    if the wind took her answer away, and if you listen hard enough you can
    still hear her voice receding, getting thinner and smaller and more
    transparent. We're not supposed to do that. We're supposed to reassure one
    another and say dumb things like, "Well, she couldn't have suffered much."
    And I *want* to say things like that, because ceremonies like this are for
    the living, and not the dead, because the dead are gone and can't hear what
    we say, and I can't even take solace in that, because it isn't a new
    thought. And the truth of it is, I can't take any solace *at all*, because
    Emily is dead. She's just gone, and we won't hear her cleverness ever
    again, and we won't see the way she gave that wry smile, as she turned
    half-away so you could enjoy what she said without having to worry about her
    reaction. No one allows us to be angry. It isn't fitting, it isn't seemly.
    But that's how I feel. I'm just pure and deeply angry that she's gone.
    That she died when her life was so good. That's cruel. It's like some kind
    of old Arabian Nights revenge, where the djinn waits until you're happiest
    to slice you down. And in the compassion that we try to show each other, we
    won't let ourselves be angry, won't let ourselves scream at the world that
    is now minus that special part.

    YOU CAN BE ANGRY! "Do not go gentle into that good night, old age should
    burn and rave at close of day; rage, rage against the dying of the light."
    It will be a brief enough time before our daily measure softens the edge of
    memory, and Emily, and all she was, and all the places in which she resided
    in our hearts will have closed over just like the Red Sea, and we won't
    *feel* like being angry. We'll just be miserable, and lonely for her, and
    we'll never have taken the opportunity to let the stupid nasty world that
    took her know how much we miss her and how just goddamned *angry* we are!

    And I sat down, and could feel that these people were angry, but not at
    Emily's death. They were angry because I hadn't played the game. And I felt
    awful, just awful, and I hung my head. And Susan touched my hand, and I
    cried.

    And Norman [Spinrad] got up, and he climbed the risers to the platform
    filled with flowers, and he stood behind the lectern, and he spoke so well.
    He believed as I believed, that it is better to send off the loved one with
    rage, to show at least for a moment to the empty sky and the sunny day that
    you *cared*, enough to look cranky and unseemly, that the loved one deserved
    at least *that* much, but he was saner than I. He said, (and this is just a
    part, just the best part that I remember), "Don't expect justice. Emily
    being taken like this, is not fair. It is not just. She never deserved to
    die so soon. There is no justice inherent in the universe -- except what we
    put there. All the justice that exists, is what we make. So let us show
    compassion and sense and courage, in Emily's name."

    Oh, that was *so much* better. I wish I'd had the wit or the skill or the
    clear head to say that. Because it was what lay at the core of my anger. It
    was something that could keep you busy while mourning. It could kill the
    guilt of not having been there to save her. Of not having said to her the
    things you now realize she needed to hear from a friend. Of not feeling
    adequate to face death. It was wise and sane and correct.

    And then Richelieu got up and -- gently but firmly -- debunked what we had
    said. With oleaginous sincerity, he told his flock the same fable all over
    again, pushing the philosophy of that particular House of God and House of
    Men.

    When the ceremony was ended, we three stood alone for a time, and no one
    came to speak to us, except for one woman who approached us and, smiling as
    Richelieu had been smiling, advised us that Emily *was* above, and she hoped
    and prayed for us that we would be able to let the sun into our hearts. She
    meant well, but I wanted to slug her.

    And we walked back to the car, and we got in and drove away from Redondo
    Beach; and there hasn't been a day since February of 1986 that I haven't
    thought about Emily, and how much I miss my friend.

    ===========================END QUOTE========================

    That's the best description I've ever seen for my reaction to the death of a
    loved one. You have my sincere condolences.

    Bob

  13. "Andy" <q> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Agreed. I missed her the instant I heard.

    I sent her a bouque of flowers every week when she started the chemo and
    radiation. Steve kept calling with thanks. It was the least I could do.

    Andy, what a sweet way to show that you cared. I'll bet getting those
    flowers gave her a much-needed boost every time.

    It's so sad. I'm so very sorry for your loss, and your brother's. Hugs to
    both of you.

    Chris

  14. Just another thanks to all of you for sharing your kind words, feelings and
    thoughts.

    {{{HUGS}}}

    Andy
    It's raining outside and the house is filling up with tears.

  15. ((((((((((((((((((andy)))))))))))))))))))

    "Andy" <q> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I don't rant in Usenet much anywhere but today's the the day and this
    is the place.

    My brother's wife Lauri died this morning of lung cancer.

    I wonder if all the chemo and radiation didn't shorten her life, but it
    sure didn't save it.

    She was a better sister to me than my own. [I know that's selfish, it's
    just the way I'm feeling at the moment]

    Andy
    There were Richard Pryors and Jonny Cash's but there was also Lauri
    Stickel. [R.I.P.]

    At least she's got her father to look after her.

    </RANT>

  16. Bob Terwilliger said:

    In the introduction to _Angry Candy_, Harlan Ellison recounted the funeral
    of his friend Emily:

    ==========================BEGIN QUOTE=======================

    /snip/

    I've saved this - I read it and cried. Over the Christmas period a close
    friend lost his mother and I have been there for him, but this morning I
    found he's chosen to withdraw and I can't contact him. I don't know when -
    if ever - he will "return"... haven't even heard his voice so far this new
    year.

    It doesn't help that he's the nearest I've got to a SO at present, even
    though it's not even a committed relationship.

    I wish I could print this out for him, but in the meantime it's helping me
    understand his grief.

    Thank you.

    --
    Sue in Portsmouth,
    "Old" Hampshire,
    "Old" England, UK

  17. "EastneyEnder" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Bob Terwilliger said:

    In the introduction to _Angry Candy_, Harlan Ellison recounted the
    funeral
    of his friend Emily:

    ==========================BEGIN QUOTE=======================

    /snip/

    I've saved this - I read it and cried. Over the Christmas period a close
    friend lost his mother and I have been there for him, but this morning I
    found he's chosen to withdraw and I can't contact him. I don't know when -
    if ever - he will "return"... haven't even heard his voice so far this new
    year.

    It doesn't help that he's the nearest I've got to a SO at present, even
    though it's not even a committed relationship.

    I wish I could print this out for him, but in the meantime it's helping me
    understand his grief.

    Thank you.

    Sue in Portsmouth,
    "Old" Hampshire,
    "Old" England, UK

    What a tribute to Emily. I lost my closest and dearest friend of 32 years
    a few months ago and I relived that when I read Bob's post. I could have
    been the one saying his words when I attended Celeste's service. I still
    break down.

    Dora

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob Terwilliger' virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz said:

    That's the best description I've ever seen for my reaction to the death of a
    loved one. You have my sincere condolences.

    Bob

    Damn you Bob...
    That was indeed eloquent.

    Gotta go blow my nose and wipe my face of now.

    Anger at the unfairness of it all is indeed the initial emotion.
    To hell with the games, the pain is too deep.
    It's like having your heart ripped out, stomped on, then only half of it
    being put back.
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  19. In article said:

    Just another thanks to all of you for sharing your kind words, feelings and
    thoughts.

    {{{HUGS}}}

    Andy
    It's raining outside and the house is filling up with tears.

    Perfect.

    The world sheds tears for her loss.

    It rained for 2 weeks starting the day mom died...
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  20. Andy said:

    I don't rant in Usenet much anywhere but today's the the day and this
    is the place.

    My brother's wife Lauri died this morning of lung cancer.

    Please accept our condolences. So very sorry.

    --
    Cheers
    Cathy(xyz)

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