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  1. Melba's Jammin said:

    Looks good. (Could you size down those pics before posting them,
    though? I can imagine life size; don't need to see it. "-)


    Hmmmm...they didn't come out "life sized" on my 'puter...?

  2. Van said:
    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    "Sheldon" wrote:
    Price Chopper - this explains some of your comments about your local
    stores. Any others nearby? Grand Union?

    Price Chopper (www.pricechopper.com) is the largest grocery chain in this
    area (Capital Region of New York State).

    Second largest is Hannaford. Grand Unions most all went out of business in
    this area years ago.

    The name Price Chopper really is a misnomer. They're a regular grocery
    chain, not one of those "price-Rite" type of grocery depots.

    Van

    *Wish* we had a Trader Joe's or (Keeping fingers crossed) a WEGMAN'S!

    I've discovered that each Price Chopper store is different... those in
    more affluent locations are more high end, especially in regards to
    produce, bakery, meats, deli, and everything in general. The Price
    Chopper in Glenmont has a regular meat department and a custom meat
    meat counter where one can get better quality meats cut to order, they
    carry USDA prime too... naturally with prices more high end to match.
    In contrast the Price Chopper in Catskill, even though it is newer,
    it's smaller, shabbier, and caters to less affluent clientele.

    There are small independant markets around here too, including a few
    actual butcher shops. But my complaint is not the markets per se,
    just the fact that only imbeciles eat preground mystery meat,
    regardless from where.

    Sheldon

  3. "Goomba38" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Melba's Jammin said:

    Looks good. (Could you size down those pics before posting them, though?
    I can imagine life size; don't need to see it. "-)


    Hmmmm...they didn't come out "life sized" on my 'puter...?

    Maybe you've got your browser set to resize pictures to fit the window.

  4. YEP THEM IS HUMONGUS SNAP SHOTS. MR. SHELTON IS WAY TOO IGNORANT TO KNOW
    HOW TO TAKE A TINY ONE. THE SQU0IRTZ WILL BE OF SOME TYPEA HEL,P. SOON.

    FATTY OR JAK OR JUST FATJACK

    "Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sheldon said:

    Home grown:
    http://i24.tinypic.com/2aihchv.jpg

    Din Din:
    http://i23.tinypic.com/107q8h2.jpg

    Looks good. (Could you size down those pics before posting them,
    though? I can imagine life size; don't need to see it. "-)

    --
    -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
    Notes about our first three meals in Tuscany have been posted to
    http://www.jamlady.eboard.com; 10-11-2007

  5. "Becca" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    cybercat wrote:

    One of my cats will eat ham, the other 2 cats do not eat any table food.

    Gracie begs for the bowl after I have anything with ranch dressing, yogurt
    or cottage cheese. And the ONLY cat treats she will eat are dairy flavored
    Temptations.

    Quoted message said:

    Annie, my cat who died when she was 17 ate nothing but Science Diet, and
    when we noticed she was losing weight, we tried tempting her with
    everything, but she would not touch it. 🙁

    Becca, I went through exactly this with my 20 year old. The vet could
    find nothing wrong with her, she just would not eat. She, too, ate
    Science Diet her whole life (the greasy, fish "maintenance" dry) and in
    fact, during college days she had her SD when I had a hard time keeping
    myself in Ramen. 😉

  6. "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    I've discovered that each Price Chopper store is different... those in
    more affluent locations are more high end, especially in regards to
    produce, bakery, meats, deli, and everything in general. The Price
    Chopper in Glenmont has a regular meat department and a custom meat
    meat counter where one can get better quality meats cut to order, they
    carry USDA prime too... naturally with prices more high end to match.
    In contrast the Price Chopper in Catskill, even though it is newer,
    it's smaller, shabbier, and caters to less affluent clientele.

    There are small independant markets around here too, including a few
    actual butcher shops. But my complaint is not the markets per se,
    just the fact that only imbeciles eat preground mystery meat,
    regardless from where.

    Sheldon

    Hmmm.. I knew the bigger Choppers had a larger selection (like the Eastern
    Ave 'Super Chopper in Sch'dy), but didn't know *any* Price Chopper carried
    USDA Prime! Do you have to request it at their 'custom cut' counter?

    Guess I'll have to make a run over there (Glenmont) someday soon . . I've
    got friends in Delmar . . . .and it's not that far from my 3-times weekly
    trek to dialysis off New Scotland Ave.

    Knowwhatcha mean about the smaller ones - I've stopped at the ones in
    (downtown) Albany...

    Thanks for the tip.

    Van

  7. On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:54:00 -0700, Bobo Bonobo® <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Van said:

    "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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    Quoted message said:

    Home grown:
    http://i24.tinypic.com/2aihchv.jpg

    Quoted message said:

    Din Din:
    http://i23.tinypic.com/107q8h2.jpg

    Great looking produce! Thanks for the tip on celery spacing - I'll have to
    try some next season.

    Orange Kool-Aid or Hi-C mixed with your Crystal Palace??

    I should think so. You don't mix good things with Crystal Palace.

    Quoted message said:


    Van

    --Bryan

    sounds like it's right up there with the unfortunately named popov.

    your pal,
    blake

  8. "Goomba38" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Nancy Young said:

    "JoeSpareBedroom" <[email hidden]> wrote

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    Wish I could do that. But, the Italian woman across the street made a
    face when I offered tomatoes. Said she hates them.

    I guess just saying No thanks wasn't an option.

    I wish my neighbors would offer me tomatoes, no one has
    vegetable gardens, though. I didn't grow tomatoes this year,
    far too busy last spring. Next year. And I'm planting that
    lettuce leaf basil people talked about, too.

    I grew two huge pots of tomatoes on the deck this year. One has since died
    and is already in the composter but the other is still producing and has a
    batch of green tomatoes on it as well as many new buds. Cool weather has
    arrived today (80s) and I'm not sure how long until it gets too cold? My
    fall back plan is a fried green tomato meal if nothing else?

    We've been plunged into cold weather very early. Night temps of 37F. My
    tomatoes are still ripening. I bring them in the house when they are red
    and let them sit in a bowl while I use them up. They are still sweet. When
    we get a freeze I will pick every tomato that has at least some white to its
    color and let them ripen in the house. Sometimes we have tomatoes right up
    to Christmas.
    Janet

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Nancy Young said:

    "Sheldon" wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Home grown:
    http://i24.tinypic.com/2aihchv.jpg

    Quoted message said:

    Din Din:
    http://i23.tinypic.com/107q8h2.jpg

    Nice! Did you eat that whole steak by yourself?

    Are you kidding, with six cats I was lucky to get some... they can eat
    faster than I can slice... I think they ate more than half.

    My cauliflower and cabbage were small this year but still very good.

    But my first attempt at growing celery surprised me, what a difference
    from store bought, a rich aroma, remarkable flavor, and it's the
    crunchiest! And I have five more still in the ground. Now I need to
    perfect my celery growing, I need to plant them much closer together,
    I found out that they grow more compact if they touch and they will
    also self blanch... the one necessity however is a long growing season
    (5 months) and plenty of water. I think anyone can grow celery, needs
    very little space, a square foot will easily grow four bunches. So
    now we know what to plant in that wet spot.

    You'd think after that nice dinner I shouldn't be hungry, but I'm
    starving. Why, because I get my flu shot tomorrow and at the same
    time I'll get my yearly routine fasting blood test, no eating/drinking
    from 9PM.

    Sheldon Eieio

    Nice - this year I did tomatoes (Cherry and Big Boy). My problem was
    that they were so close together I got a bunch of hybrids. They were
    tasty though.

    And the plants are budding again. I'm going to pull them inside with a
    grow light. Make the law enforcement folks go crazy.

    I also had zucchini, which btw is re-flowering too. And I also tried
    dill and rosemary but discovered that they do not like direct sunlight.
    Plus the little animals like the flavor too so they got destroyed fairly
    early.

    Next year I'll branch out a bit. In the interim I've got a Spider plant
    that's absolutely huge and a Chinese ornamental that I brought back from
    the brink. Sadly I couldn't save the other one.

    Here's the garden:

    http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=831133564&context=set-
    72157600067261147&size=l

    The Spider Plant:
    http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1546284705&size=m&context=set-
    72157600067261147

    The Chinese ornamental:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/kd1s/1546333907/

  10. "T" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    "Nancy Young" wrote:


    snip

    Quoted message said:

    Nice - this year I did tomatoes (Cherry and Big Boy). My problem was
    that they were so close together I got a bunch of hybrids. They were
    tasty though.


    snip
    You may have hybrid seeds next year from the tomatoes you grew this year,
    but growing tomatoes close together will not produce hybrid tomato fruit
    this year. 36 inch spacing for tomato plants is preferred. If you planted
    them closer, you may have stunted the growth and therefore produced small
    tomato fruit. However, weather is a big factor in how well the plants
    produce -- every year is different. Good luck next year.
    Janet

  11. cybercat said:

    Becca, I went through exactly this with my 20 year old. The vet could
    find nothing wrong with her, she just would not eat. She, too, ate
    Science Diet her whole life (the greasy, fish "maintenance" dry) and in
    fact, during college days she had her SD when I had a hard time keeping
    myself in Ramen. 😉

    Annie was losing weight, so the vet did some tests, including testing
    her thyroid, but nothing was wrong. The vet said, she is just getting
    old. I went to Petco, and while fighting back the tears, I bought every
    brand of kitty treat they had. It did not want to give up. You know how
    it is. 🙁

    Becca

  12. In article <[email hidden]>, kilikini1
    @NOSPAMhotmail.com says...

    Quoted message said:
    Nancy Young said:

    "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    > Nice! Did you eat that whole steak by yourself?

    Are you kidding, with six cats I was lucky to get some... they can
    eat faster than I can slice... I think they ate more than half.

    Geez, my cat just stares until I share a teensy taste of my pot roast.
    Or turkey.

    Funny, my cats have NO interest in human food what-so-ever.

    kili

    Angie is a funny cat. She likes milk.

    But eat pizza in front of her and she'll try to get some. But offer her
    a bit and she doesn't want it.

  13. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:


    "Becca" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    cybercat wrote:

    One of my cats will eat ham, the other 2 cats do not eat any table food.

    Gracie begs for the bowl after I have anything with ranch dressing, yogurt
    or cottage cheese. And the ONLY cat treats she will eat are dairy flavored
    Temptations.

    Quoted message said:

    Annie, my cat who died when she was 17 ate nothing but Science Diet, and
    when we noticed she was losing weight, we tried tempting her with
    everything, but she would not touch it. 🙁

    Becca, I went through exactly this with my 20 year old. The vet could
    find nothing wrong with her, she just would not eat. She, too, ate
    Science Diet her whole life (the greasy, fish "maintenance" dry) and in
    fact, during college days she had her SD when I had a hard time keeping
    myself in Ramen. 😉

    I've always fed my cats Iams dry food and haven't had any problems.
    Oldest cat I've had was 18.

    Right now I've got Angie who is 4 years old and a total sweetheart. I
    explained how she won't eat human food other than milk. But she will try
    to swipe a piece of pizza out of you hand.

    She's sitting right next to me as I type this.

  14. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Janet B. said:

    "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...> Home grown:
    >http://i24.tinypic.com/2aihchv.jpg

    > Din Din:
    >http://i23.tinypic.com/107q8h2.jpg

    Great looking garden stuff! That's the kind of stuff I can't grow
    because
    my shady yard makes for a really short season. Are you going to be able
    to
    eat everything before it over-matures in the garden or do you have a
    method
    to avoid that?

    I trade some with neighbors but still I give away more than I use.

    Wish I could do that. But, the Italian woman across the street made a face
    when I offered tomatoes. Said she hates them. Offered basil, and she asked
    what you're supposed to use it for. House to the right: While devouring some
    snow peas back in June, her son asked "Are these vegetables?" His parents
    seem to eat nothing but meat and bread, and have politely refused offers of
    lettuce & various other things. The kids still come over, though, to
    self-medicate. :-)

    She must be Italian by marriage then. If she was Italian by birth she
    would know what to do with tomatoes and basil.

  15. In article <[email hidden]>, Goomba38
    @comcast.net says...

    Quoted message said:
    Nancy Young said:

    "JoeSpareBedroom" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Wish I could do that. But, the Italian woman across the street made a face
    when I offered tomatoes. Said she hates them.

    I guess just saying No thanks wasn't an option.

    I wish my neighbors would offer me tomatoes, no one has
    vegetable gardens, though. I didn't grow tomatoes this year,
    far too busy last spring. Next year. And I'm planting that
    lettuce leaf basil people talked about, too.

    I grew two huge pots of tomatoes on the deck this year. One has since
    died and is already in the composter but the other is still producing
    and has a batch of green tomatoes on it as well as many new buds. Cool
    weather has arrived today (80s) and I'm not sure how long until it gets
    too cold? My fall back plan is a fried green tomato meal if nothing else?

    My plants are flowering again. I'll pull them inside and put them under
    grow lights.

    I guess in my family the green thumb bypassed my dad and landed on me.

  16. In article <[email hidden]>, Goomba38
    @comcast.net says...

    Quoted message said:
    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    Wish I could do that. But, the Italian woman across the street made a face
    when I offered tomatoes. Said she hates them. Offered basil, and she asked
    what you're supposed to use it for.

    <clutches chest in pain> That is shocking to me. How could she not know?!
    What a maroon.

    Wait, wait, are you wearing all black with a huge crucifix hanging from
    your kneck?

    The SO says I was born with a heavy black cross to carry around with me.

  17. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
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    Quoted message said:

    "Goomba38" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    Wish I could do that. But, the Italian woman across the street made a
    face when I offered tomatoes. Said she hates them. Offered basil, and she
    asked what you're supposed to use it for.

    <clutches chest in pain> That is shocking to me. How could she not know?!
    What a maroon.

    I have absolutely no idea. But, it makes me appreciate my son even more.
    He'll try absolutely anything, except raw tomatoes. I don't think he'd go
    this far, either, but you never know:
    http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2407381

    The video has been taken down. In any case as a kid I didn't like raw
    tomatoes but I developed a taste for them in my early teenage years.

    The strange part is I'd eat tomato sauce on pasta no problem when I was
    a kid.

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from "JoeSpareBedroom" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    Wish I could do that. But, the Italian woman across the street made a face
    when I offered tomatoes. Said she hates them. Offered basil, and she asked
    what you're supposed to use it for. House to the right: While
    devouring so
    snow peas back in June, her son asked "Are these vegetables?" His parents
    seem to eat nothing but meat and bread, and have politely refused offers of
    lettuce & various other things.

    Tell me about it :-( I get gluts of rhubarb, different beans, peas
    and courgettes (zucchini) and squash, which I offer to neighbours. Every
    year I can guarantee at least one recipient won't recognise such common
    vegetables or will have never bought and cooked them, never tasted
    them in a restaurant; so they have to ask how they are prepared cooked
    and eaten.

    Janet.

    Interesting. We have a couple that we're friends with who eat here
    occasionally and they're always shocked that vegetables play a part in
    nearly every meal.

  19. "T" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    says...

    Quoted message said:

    "Goomba38" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

    > Wish I could do that. But, the Italian woman across the street made a
    > face when I offered tomatoes. Said she hates them. Offered basil, and
    > she
    > asked what you're supposed to use it for.

    <clutches chest in pain> That is shocking to me. How could she not
    know?!
    What a maroon.

    I have absolutely no idea. But, it makes me appreciate my son even more.
    He'll try absolutely anything, except raw tomatoes. I don't think he'd go
    this far, either, but you never know:
    http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2407381

    The video has been taken down. In any case as a kid I didn't like raw
    tomatoes but I developed a taste for them in my early teenage years.

    The strange part is I'd eat tomato sauce on pasta no problem when I was
    a kid.

    Yeah...same with my kid. Fresh tomato sauce, cooked for only 20 minutes, and
    he's fine with it. But, never tomatoes, uncooked, on a salad.

  20. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    cybercat said:

    Becca, I went through exactly this with my 20 year old. The vet could
    find nothing wrong with her, she just would not eat. She, too, ate
    Science Diet her whole life (the greasy, fish "maintenance" dry) and in
    fact, during college days she had her SD when I had a hard time keeping
    myself in Ramen. 😉

    Annie was losing weight, so the vet did some tests, including testing
    her thyroid, but nothing was wrong. The vet said, she is just getting
    old. I went to Petco, and while fighting back the tears, I bought every
    brand of kitty treat they had. It did not want to give up. You know how
    it is. 🙁

    Becca

    I wonder if cats suffer dementia like humans do. That's what it sounds
    like Annie was going through.

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