Ping: JC

Yes, and then there's the whale hunt in Washington, using high powered
rifles and speed boats. Wonder what part of that is ancient ritual.
--
Cheri

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Maybe you need to watch the Indians while they spear walleyes in the

lakes

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in Wisconsin and other states before you make such a statement. This

annual

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"ritual" is done during the spawning season. I have had the misfortune

of

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seeing this done, and there is nothing that supports your "balance of
nature" statement here. I have watched them haul washtubs full of

walleyes

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out of these small lakes. Oh, and if they accidentally spear a musky,

they

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simply shake them off of their spear and let them go to waste since

they can

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not, by law, keep the muskies. They do this solely for the money with

no

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regard for nature. As a result, the daily bag limits of walleyes have

been

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reduced from 5 to as low as one fish per day for the anglers that pay

for

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their fishing licenses. These are the fishing licenses that support the

fish

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hatcheries that produce the walleyes that are planted in these lakes.

The

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Indians may at one time have had regards for nature in this manner, but

some

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of them have obviously lost that trait. This loss of fishery has put

many

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people out of business due to loss of tourism.

Chris

Thank you. The hardest part is hearing my 5yr old ask about her all the
time( they were *really* close). It is very sad.

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JOLINDA RANEY said:

A Coyote ate my house cat a few months ago. She was an indoor cat, but
got
out. Awful.

Condolences. :-(

It's not just "strays" that they eat!
We used to live in California. They would
also pack and lure dogs away and eat them
as well...
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
Nicholson

Thank you.

Oh my gosh--sorry about your dog. That is awful.

"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"A Coyote ate my house cat a few months ago. She was an indoor cat, but
got out. Awful." Om

Im so sorry.

Last week my boxer, Sundance, killed my Jack Russel terrier. Shook him
and broke his neck. I was pretty distraught. At first, I was mad at
Sunny, who showed no remorse, of course.....and I realized that in Doggy
Politics, it is ok for a big dog to kill a little one. So, I pointed out
to him that I was bigger than HIM.....and that IF he hurts my cat or my
other smallish dog, I will personally take him into the yard and shoot
him.

Im aware that one option is to get rid of the boxers IN CASE they MIGHT
hurt the cat or Dessy....or get rid of the cat and Dessy to prevent them
from being hurt.....
But the fact is, if I give either of them away, how can I KNOW they wont
be hurt some other way? I mean....say I give Dessy away to keep her
from MAYBE being killed by Sunny or Butch....then she gets hit by a car?
or say i give Butch and Sunny to somebody....and they train them for pig
dogs and they get killed by a wild pig? or, suppose the people I give
them to just dont turn out to be as "nice" as I think they are.....and
abuse any of them?

So.... Im choosing to make sure I separate the Bigs when I leave home,
from the Littles. I hope this will do the trick.

Where's that Crystal Ball when you need it?

Lass

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In article <[email hidden]>,

(Lass Chance_2) said:

Hey, she's a beauty!
LOL, Myabe y'all remember my saying I fell down my 17 deck stairs last
summer, LOL...the reason I fell was, one of those black and yellow
spiders had built a magnificent web using the railing and attaching to a
bannister at the stair landing. I had been especially careful to
remember to not disturb her web and I liked to stand on the landing and
watch her work, close up. But....that one day, I did forget, and going
down the first three stairs to the landing, I felt my hand drag thru the
web. I stopped to look to see if I had damged it, forgot where I
was....and stepped back-----and right down the last 17 stairs.

I can say that I was damn lucky to not break my neck....but the
experience doesnt justify my killing the spider. it does however, serve
to remind me WHY I cant go forgetful while walking down stairs!

Lass

Last summer one had spun a monster web next to my front porch. ;-)
I actually put up a printed sign that said "Please do not disturb the
spider". People respected the request. She lived there all summer, laid
a large egg sack up in the eaves, the died.....

<sigh>

Those spiders always die after they lay an egg sack.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
Nicholson

Om!!! You *must* stop this. Lol. [censored], I am so terrified of spiders, and do
not find them pretty, at all! I search my room every night for them before
hitting the hay.

Lol... You are not serious, are you? Is there any insect that you are afraid
of? Animal? You probably don't like me much----I kill a spider as soon as I
see one. Nasty things.

"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hey, she's a beauty!
LOL, Myabe y'all remember my saying I fell down my 17 deck stairs last
summer, LOL...the reason I fell was, one of those black and yellow
spiders had built a magnificent web using the railing and attaching to a
bannister at the stair landing. I had been especially careful to
remember to not disturb her web and I liked to stand on the landing and
watch her work, close up. But....that one day, I did forget, and going
down the first three stairs to the landing, I felt my hand drag thru the
web. I stopped to look to see if I had damged it, forgot where I
was....and stepped back-----and right down the last 17 stairs.

I can say that I was damn lucky to not break my neck....but the
experience doesnt justify my killing the spider. it does however, serve
to remind me WHY I cant go forgetful while walking down stairs!

Lass

Please...

DO go to your local shelter and take a look at some of the ADULT cats!
Sooooo many get destroyed and there are so many wonderful adult cats
surrendered.

Ms. pug faced persian "Diana" is an adult pound rescue.
She is delightful. :-)

I know your lost kitty can never be "replaced", but you would be
doing a good deed!

In article <[email hidden]>,

JOLINDA RANEY said:

Thank you. The hardest part is hearing my 5yr old ask about her all the
time( they were *really* close). It is very sad.

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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

JOLINDA RANEY said:

A Coyote ate my house cat a few months ago. She was an indoor cat, but
got
out. Awful.

Condolences. :-(

It's not just "strays" that they eat!
We used to live in California. They would
also pack and lure dogs away and eat them
as well...
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
Nicholson

--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

JOLINDA RANEY said:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Lass Chance_2) said:

Hey, she's a beauty!
LOL, Myabe y'all remember my saying I fell down my 17 deck stairs last
summer, LOL...the reason I fell was, one of those black and yellow
spiders had built a magnificent web using the railing and attaching to a
bannister at the stair landing. I had been especially careful to
remember to not disturb her web and I liked to stand on the landing and
watch her work, close up. But....that one day, I did forget, and going
down the first three stairs to the landing, I felt my hand drag thru the
web. I stopped to look to see if I had damged it, forgot where I
was....and stepped back-----and right down the last 17 stairs.

I can say that I was damn lucky to not break my neck....but the
experience doesnt justify my killing the spider. it does however, serve
to remind me WHY I cant go forgetful while walking down stairs!

Lass

Last summer one had spun a monster web next to my front porch. ;-)
I actually put up a printed sign that said "Please do not disturb the
spider". People respected the request. She lived there all summer, laid
a large egg sack up in the eaves, the died.....

<sigh>

Those spiders always die after they lay an egg sack.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
Nicholson

Om!!! You *must* stop this. Lol. [censored], I am so terrified of spiders, and do
not find them pretty, at all! I search my room every night for them before
hitting the hay.

Killfile the thread dear. ;-)

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

I'm not Lass, but I do kill Mosquitos, fire ants, houseflies, termites,
silverfish, cockroaches and dangerous spiders (brown recluse and black
widows). Also slugs and caterpillars that eat my garden produce along
with scale and mealybugs.

I also kill poultry predators, rats and mice, and squirrels.

There are reasonable limits IMHO.

But I no longer kill rattlesnakes or other vipers.
They are captured and turned over to wildlife rescue
for relocation.
I keep snake hooks on hand.

In article <[email hidden]>,

JOLINDA RANEY said:

Lol... You are not serious, are you? Is there any insect that you are afraid
of? Animal? You probably don't like me much----I kill a spider as soon as I
see one. Nasty things.

"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hey, she's a beauty!
LOL, Myabe y'all remember my saying I fell down my 17 deck stairs last
summer, LOL...the reason I fell was, one of those black and yellow
spiders had built a magnificent web using the railing and attaching to a
bannister at the stair landing. I had been especially careful to
remember to not disturb her web and I liked to stand on the landing and
watch her work, close up. But....that one day, I did forget, and going
down the first three stairs to the landing, I felt my hand drag thru the
web. I stopped to look to see if I had damged it, forgot where I
was....and stepped back-----and right down the last 17 stairs.

I can say that I was damn lucky to not break my neck....but the
experience doesnt justify my killing the spider. it does however, serve
to remind me WHY I cant go forgetful while walking down stairs!

Lass

--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

JOLINDA RANEY said:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Lass Chance_2) said:

Hey, she's a beauty!
LOL, Myabe y'all remember my saying I fell down my 17 deck stairs last
summer, LOL...the reason I fell was, one of those black and yellow
spiders had built a magnificent web using the railing and attaching to a
bannister at the stair landing. I had been especially careful to
remember to not disturb her web and I liked to stand on the landing and
watch her work, close up. But....that one day, I did forget, and going
down the first three stairs to the landing, I felt my hand drag thru the
web. I stopped to look to see if I had damged it, forgot where I
was....and stepped back-----and right down the last 17 stairs.

I can say that I was damn lucky to not break my neck....but the
experience doesnt justify my killing the spider. it does however, serve
to remind me WHY I cant go forgetful while walking down stairs!

Lass

Last summer one had spun a monster web next to my front porch. ;-)
I actually put up a printed sign that said "Please do not disturb the
spider". People respected the request. She lived there all summer, laid
a large egg sack up in the eaves, the died.....

<sigh>

Those spiders always die after they lay an egg sack.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
Nicholson

Om!!! You *must* stop this. Lol. [censored], I am so terrified of spiders, and do
not find them pretty, at all! I search my room every night for them before
hitting the hay.

Hmm. I look at it this way: imagine you're a spider. Pretty much all
you want to do is eat bugs and make more spiders. Then this thing, this
big giant thing, whose hand is even bigger than like, 10 of you, comes
and squashes you flat out of nowhere. Most spiders can't even hurt you,
Jolinda. Being afraid of them makes no sense. Instead, be afraid of
the portugese man-of-war, the bears, and the birds. Much more
reasonable.

--
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Lass Chance_2) said:

"Say wha huh? Aren't you a human? Have you no species loyalty?" Luna

LOL, well, not much. At least not to the point of putting humans above
other species to the degree of wiping out those species for our
"convenience".

There seems to be a general, "We're more intelligent than any other
animals, therefore we have the right to dominate, control or destroy
them."

My personal perspective is more along the lines of, "We are the most
intelligent animals around, therefore it's our responsibility to protect
other species from extinction. Let's use our superior intelligence to
live in harmony and balance with them and respect their right to Be."

To what extent? Do you forgo living in houses, eating meat, driving,
using electricity, and all other things that contribute to the death of
other animals? If not, then you must think it's ok to kill animals
sometimes. When is it necessary and when is it not? Where do you draw
the line?

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It's the lack of respect for other beings, (so typical of us arrogant
white folks), that I have a problem with.

Is it respectful to domesticate animals and breed them as pets? Would
you like it if some technologically superior aliens did that to you?
Yet most animal rights activists don't seem to have a problem with
people keeping dogs and cats as pets, or even dressing them up in funny
clothes and taking their pictures for calendars. That's certainly
disrespectful.

--
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Lass Chance_2) said:

well, I can dig it, Doug.
The main problem with humans is, they insist on believing they're more
special than the other inhabitants of our little planet and have
historically always been able to justify the destruction of other
species, not to mention the planet herself, based on their perceived
specialness.

The Native Americans are one notable exception. They understood and
revered the Balance of Nature, taking only what they needed, wasting
nothing and giving something back....living in harmony with other living
beings. But, well, lookee what happened to them. I think it went
something like this: "Aw, hell....kill ALL the buffalo and sell the
hides. Kill all the coyotes and wolves, too. And while yer at it, let's
get rid of them damn heathen, Godless Indians."

Might is right, alright.
or, at least we insist on believing it.

Lass

There's nothing inherently special about Native Americans either. If
Europeans had never come here, eventually the Native Americans would
probably have developed technologically to the point where they could
exploit nature just as well as we do.

It's natural to want to reproduce, and eat, and live comfortably, for
all animals. We're just better at it. All animals take the path of
least resistance. They live closer to water and food supplies, because
it's easier. They hoard food for the winter, or hibernate, because it's
easier. They build nests or dams because it's easier. All of our
so-called sins came about just from doing what's natural, namely trying
to find the easiest way to live.

--
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

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JOLINDA RANEY said:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (Lass Chance_2) wrote:

> Hey, she's a beauty!
> LOL, Myabe y'all remember my saying I fell down my 17 deck stairs last
> summer, LOL...the reason I fell was, one of those black and yellow
> spiders had built a magnificent web using the railing and attaching to
> a
> bannister at the stair landing. I had been especially careful to
> remember to not disturb her web and I liked to stand on the landing
> and
> watch her work, close up. But....that one day, I did forget, and
> going
> down the first three stairs to the landing, I felt my hand drag thru
> the
> web. I stopped to look to see if I had damged it, forgot where I
> was....and stepped back-----and right down the last 17 stairs.
>
> I can say that I was damn lucky to not break my neck....but the
> experience doesnt justify my killing the spider. it does however,
> serve
> to remind me WHY I cant go forgetful while walking down stairs!
>
> Lass
>

Last summer one had spun a monster web next to my front porch. ;-)
I actually put up a printed sign that said "Please do not disturb the
spider". People respected the request. She lived there all summer, laid
a large egg sack up in the eaves, the died.....

<sigh>

Those spiders always die after they lay an egg sack.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
Nicholson

Om!!! You *must* stop this. Lol. [censored], I am so terrified of spiders, and
do
not find them pretty, at all! I search my room every night for them
before
hitting the hay.

Hmm. I look at it this way: imagine you're a spider. Pretty much all
you want to do is eat bugs and make more spiders. Then this thing, this
big giant thing, whose hand is even bigger than like, 10 of you, comes
and squashes you flat out of nowhere. Most spiders can't even hurt you,
Jolinda. Being afraid of them makes no sense. Instead, be afraid of
the portugese man-of-war, the bears, and the birds. Much more
reasonable.

--
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

Okay, Luna. Whatever.

Are you telling me what to be afraid of? That is what seems unreasonable.

Um... Will not do that. You can email me and I will tell you exactly why.
You want to hear a sad story---I got one for you. It is pathetic. We also
have a puppy. He is 4m old and lots of work at the moment. Cute as can be,
though.

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Please...

DO go to your local shelter and take a look at some of the ADULT cats!
Sooooo many get destroyed and there are so many wonderful adult cats
surrendered.

Ms. pug faced persian "Diana" is an adult pound rescue.
She is delightful. :-)

I know your lost kitty can never be "replaced", but you would be
doing a good deed!

In article <[email hidden]>,

JOLINDA RANEY said:

Thank you. The hardest part is hearing my 5yr old ask about her all the
time( they were *really* close). It is very sad.

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"JOLINDA RANEY" <[email hidden]> wrote:

> A Coyote ate my house cat a few months ago. She was an indoor cat, but
> got
> out. Awful.
>
>

Condolences. :-(

It's not just "strays" that they eat!
We used to live in California. They would
also pack and lure dogs away and eat them
as well...
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
Nicholson

--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
Nicholson

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JOLINDA RANEY said:

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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

JOLINDA RANEY said:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> In article <[email hidden]>,
> [email hidden] (Lass Chance_2) wrote:
>
>> Hey, she's a beauty!
>> LOL, Myabe y'all remember my saying I fell down my 17 deck stairs last
>> summer, LOL...the reason I fell was, one of those black and yellow
>> spiders had built a magnificent web using the railing and attaching to
>> a
>> bannister at the stair landing. I had been especially careful to
>> remember to not disturb her web and I liked to stand on the landing
>> and
>> watch her work, close up. But....that one day, I did forget, and
>> going
>> down the first three stairs to the landing, I felt my hand drag thru
>> the
>> web. I stopped to look to see if I had damged it, forgot where I
>> was....and stepped back-----and right down the last 17 stairs.
>>
>> I can say that I was damn lucky to not break my neck....but the
>> experience doesnt justify my killing the spider. it does however,
>> serve
>> to remind me WHY I cant go forgetful while walking down stairs!
>>
>> Lass
>>
>
> Last summer one had spun a monster web next to my front porch. ;-)
> I actually put up a printed sign that said "Please do not disturb the
> spider". People respected the request. She lived there all summer, laid
> a large egg sack up in the eaves, the died.....
>
> <sigh>
>
> Those spiders always die after they lay an egg sack.
> --
> Om.
>
> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
> Nicholson

Om!!! You *must* stop this. Lol. [censored], I am so terrified of spiders, and
do
not find them pretty, at all! I search my room every night for them
before
hitting the hay.

Hmm. I look at it this way: imagine you're a spider. Pretty much all
you want to do is eat bugs and make more spiders. Then this thing, this
big giant thing, whose hand is even bigger than like, 10 of you, comes
and squashes you flat out of nowhere. Most spiders can't even hurt you,
Jolinda. Being afraid of them makes no sense. Instead, be afraid of
the portugese man-of-war, the bears, and the birds. Much more
reasonable.

--
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

Okay, Luna. Whatever.

Are you telling me what to be afraid of? That is what seems unreasonable.

Indeed.

--
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

You don't have to worry about being more intelligent than other animals.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Lass Chance_2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Say wha huh? Aren't you a human? Have you no species loyalty?" Luna

There seems to be a general, "We're more intelligent than any other
animals, therefore we have the right to dominate, control or destroy
them."

In article <[email hidden]>,

Luna said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

JOLINDA RANEY said:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (Lass Chance_2) wrote:

> Hey, she's a beauty!
> LOL, Myabe y'all remember my saying I fell down my 17 deck stairs last
> summer, LOL...the reason I fell was, one of those black and yellow
> spiders had built a magnificent web using the railing and attaching to a
> bannister at the stair landing. I had been especially careful to
> remember to not disturb her web and I liked to stand on the landing and
> watch her work, close up. But....that one day, I did forget, and going
> down the first three stairs to the landing, I felt my hand drag thru the
> web. I stopped to look to see if I had damged it, forgot where I
> was....and stepped back-----and right down the last 17 stairs.
>
> I can say that I was damn lucky to not break my neck....but the
> experience doesnt justify my killing the spider. it does however, serve
> to remind me WHY I cant go forgetful while walking down stairs!
>
> Lass
>

Last summer one had spun a monster web next to my front porch. ;-)
I actually put up a printed sign that said "Please do not disturb the
spider". People respected the request. She lived there all summer, laid
a large egg sack up in the eaves, the died.....

<sigh>

Those spiders always die after they lay an egg sack.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
Nicholson

Om!!! You *must* stop this. Lol. [censored], I am so terrified of spiders, and do
not find them pretty, at all! I search my room every night for them before
hitting the hay.

Hmm. I look at it this way: imagine you're a spider. Pretty much all
you want to do is eat bugs and make more spiders. Then this thing, this
big giant thing, whose hand is even bigger than like, 10 of you, comes
and squashes you flat out of nowhere. Most spiders can't even hurt you,
Jolinda. Being afraid of them makes no sense. Instead, be afraid of
the portugese man-of-war, the bears, and the birds. Much more
reasonable.

Portugese man of wars... <shiver>
We were down in Galveston one time and literally _thousands_ of those
things had washed up on the beach!

Pretty things, but, damn! Some of those tentacles on the bigger ones
were 3' long.

One good reason to wear lycra diveskins if you swim in the gulf coast
are all the jellyfish.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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JOLINDA RANEY said:

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

JOLINDA RANEY said:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> In article <[email hidden]>,
> [email hidden] (Lass Chance_2) wrote:
>
>> Hey, she's a beauty!
>> LOL, Myabe y'all remember my saying I fell down my 17 deck stairs last
>> summer, LOL...the reason I fell was, one of those black and yellow
>> spiders had built a magnificent web using the railing and attaching to
>> a
>> bannister at the stair landing. I had been especially careful to
>> remember to not disturb her web and I liked to stand on the landing
>> and
>> watch her work, close up. But....that one day, I did forget, and
>> going
>> down the first three stairs to the landing, I felt my hand drag thru
>> the
>> web. I stopped to look to see if I had damged it, forgot where I
>> was....and stepped back-----and right down the last 17 stairs.
>>
>> I can say that I was damn lucky to not break my neck....but the
>> experience doesnt justify my killing the spider. it does however,
>> serve
>> to remind me WHY I cant go forgetful while walking down stairs!
>>
>> Lass
>>
>
> Last summer one had spun a monster web next to my front porch. ;-)
> I actually put up a printed sign that said "Please do not disturb the
> spider". People respected the request. She lived there all summer, laid
> a large egg sack up in the eaves, the died.....
>
> <sigh>
>
> Those spiders always die after they lay an egg sack.
> --
> Om.
>
> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
> Nicholson

Om!!! You *must* stop this. Lol. [censored], I am so terrified of spiders, and
do
not find them pretty, at all! I search my room every night for them
before
hitting the hay.

Hmm. I look at it this way: imagine you're a spider. Pretty much all
you want to do is eat bugs and make more spiders. Then this thing, this
big giant thing, whose hand is even bigger than like, 10 of you, comes
and squashes you flat out of nowhere. Most spiders can't even hurt you,
Jolinda. Being afraid of them makes no sense. Instead, be afraid of
the portugese man-of-war, the bears, and the birds. Much more
reasonable.

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Okay, Luna. Whatever.

Are you telling me what to be afraid of? That is what seems unreasonable.

Jolinda,

I respect anyones phobias as I've probably got a couple myself,
but I try to figure out why.

Why are you afraid of spiders? :-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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JOLINDA RANEY said:

Um... Will not do that. You can email me and I will tell you exactly why.
You want to hear a sad story---I got one for you. It is pathetic. We also
have a puppy. He is 4m old and lots of work at the moment. Cute as can be,
though.

I'll pass. ;-)
I have enough going on to make me cry at the moment.

So what kind of puppy???
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Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

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Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

JOLINDA RANEY said:

Um... Will not do that. You can email me and I will tell you exactly why.
You want to hear a sad story---I got one for you. It is pathetic. We also
have a puppy. He is 4m old and lots of work at the moment. Cute as can
be,
though.

I'll pass. ;-)
I have enough going on to make me cry at the moment.

So what kind of puppy???
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
Nicholson

Springer Spaniel and lab.

In article <[email hidden]>,

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Luna said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

JOLINDA RANEY said:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email hidden]>,
> [email hidden] (Lass Chance_2) wrote:
>
>> Hey, she's a beauty!
>> LOL, Myabe y'all remember my saying I fell down my 17 deck stairs last
>> summer, LOL...the reason I fell was, one of those black and yellow
>> spiders had built a magnificent web using the railing and attaching to
>> a
>> bannister at the stair landing. I had been especially careful to
>> remember to not disturb her web and I liked to stand on the landing
>> and
>> watch her work, close up. But....that one day, I did forget, and
>> going
>> down the first three stairs to the landing, I felt my hand drag thru
>> the
>> web. I stopped to look to see if I had damged it, forgot where I
>> was....and stepped back-----and right down the last 17 stairs.
>>
>> I can say that I was damn lucky to not break my neck....but the
>> experience doesnt justify my killing the spider. it does however,
>> serve
>> to remind me WHY I cant go forgetful while walking down stairs!
>>
>> Lass
>>
>
> Last summer one had spun a monster web next to my front porch. ;-)
> I actually put up a printed sign that said "Please do not disturb the
> spider". People respected the request. She lived there all summer, laid
> a large egg sack up in the eaves, the died.....
>
> <sigh>
>
> Those spiders always die after they lay an egg sack.
> --
> Om.
>
> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
> Nicholson

Om!!! You *must* stop this. Lol. [censored], I am so terrified of spiders, and
do
not find them pretty, at all! I search my room every night for them
before
hitting the hay.

Hmm. I look at it this way: imagine you're a spider. Pretty much all
you want to do is eat bugs and make more spiders. Then this thing, this
big giant thing, whose hand is even bigger than like, 10 of you, comes
and squashes you flat out of nowhere. Most spiders can't even hurt you,
Jolinda. Being afraid of them makes no sense. Instead, be afraid of
the portugese man-of-war, the bears, and the birds. Much more
reasonable.

Portugese man of wars... <shiver>
We were down in Galveston one time and literally _thousands_ of those
things had washed up on the beach!

Pretty things, but, damn! Some of those tentacles on the bigger ones
were 3' long.

One good reason to wear lycra diveskins if you swim in the gulf coast
are all the jellyfish.

I was funnin' with Jolinda about her spider phobia, which I thought was
apparent in the fact that I listed "birds" as a reasonable thing to be
afraid of. That's just my own weird phobia, because I think birds are
creepy, even though I know intellectually that they're probably not
going to attack me. But man-of-wars (men-of-war? cripes) and bears are
really frikkin' scary, no funnin' at all.

The man-of-war, the thing has really long tentacles. Three feet?
That's nothing! The tentacles can be up to 165 feet long!! And, the
thing looks like a plastic bag floating on the water, you can't really
tell where it is until you're up close, but by then, it's too late!
You're in the tentacles!! And, even if a tentacle breaks away from the
main body, it can still sting you! Also, they're not one organism,
they're a colony of four polyps. Which, I have to say, is creepy.

Ok, now bears. Well, we know they can kill you. But so can big cats
and wolves, so why am I more afraid of bears? I suppose it's because
cats and wolves have body language, they communicate their intent pretty
clearly. You know when they're not interested, you know when they are.
Bears, now, bears on the other hand, a bear can be just sitting there
calm as a lazy Sunday morning, and then out of nowhere . . . WHAP!!!
Takes your head off. Even trained bears do this, with absolutely no
provocation at all. And in all the advice about what to do when you
encounter a bear in the wilderness, anything you read you're bound to
find someone else saying to do the exact opposite. Run. Don't run.
Play dead. Stand tall. Look it in the eye. Don't look directly at it.
The reason for all the confusion is that bears are unpredictable and no
one ever knows what they're about to do. That's what's so scary about
them.

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