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Except for a few of the majors, golf sponsors pay way out
of proportion for the number of eyeballs watching. They're
paying for image among what they consider a prime
demographic.

The greens fees at many upscale golf links are more for a
single day than you or I pay for a bicycle.

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Except for a few of the majors, golf sponsors pay way
out of proportion for the number of

eyeballs

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watching. They're paying for image among what they
consider a prime demographic.

The greens fees at many upscale golf links are more for a
single day than you or I pay for a bicycle.

Your bike only cost $100.00?

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Except for a few of the majors, golf sponsors pay way
out of proportion for the number of

eyeballs

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watching. They're paying for image among what they
consider a prime demographic.

The greens fees at many upscale golf links are more for
a single day

than

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you or I pay for a bicycle.

Your bike only cost $100.00?

My Colnago Super cost $175 and the greens fees at a golf
course in Hawaii is $270 a round PER PERSON and they want
foursomes.

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Except for a few of the majors, golf sponsors pay way
out of proportion for the number of

eyeballs

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watching. They're paying for image among what they
consider a prime demographic.

The greens fees at many upscale golf links are more for a
single day than you or I pay for a bicycle.

Your bike only cost $100.00?

Greens fees at Pebble Beach are pushing $400.00 last I
checked ... And I know a lot of people who balk at paying
more than that for a bike.

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word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-
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> Except for a few of the majors, golf sponsors pay way
> out of proportion for the number of

eyeballs

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> watching. They're paying for image among what they
> consider a prime demographic.

The greens fees at many upscale golf links are more for
a single day

than

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you or I pay for a bicycle.

Your bike only cost $100.00?

Greens fees at Pebble Beach are pushing $400.00 last I
checked ... And I know a lot of people who balk at paying
more than that for a bike.

I think that my favorite bike, the Basso Loto, cost me $275
for frame and fork. I had an older Campy group laying around
waiting for it and got some 9-speed levers for a song. I
paid almost $4K for my Eddy Merckx Corsa 0.1 and I hardly
ride it because I hate to take out something that expensive
to get all dirty. My latest Merckx is the EX titanium and it
cost about what a foursome at Hawaii does.

Anyone know what the Atlanta Golf Club charges? Bet it
ain't hay.

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"Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Tim Mullin" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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>> Except for a few of the majors, golf sponsors pay
>> way out of proportion for the number of
eyeballs
>> watching. They're paying for image among what they
>> consider a prime demographic.
>
> The greens fees at many upscale golf links are more
> for a single day

than

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> you or I pay for a bicycle.

Your bike only cost $100.00?

Greens fees at Pebble Beach are pushing $400.00 last I
checked ... And I know a lot of people who balk at
paying more than that for a bike.

I think that my favorite bike, the Basso Loto, cost me
$275 for frame and fork. I had an older Campy group laying
around waiting for it and got some 9-speed levers for a
song. I paid almost $4K for my Eddy Merckx Corsa 0.1 and I
hardly ride it because I hate to take out something that
expensive to get all dirty. My latest Merckx is the EX
titanium and it cost about what a foursome at Hawaii does.

Anyone know what the Atlanta Golf Club charges? Bet it
ain't hay.

So what? It's a once in a lifetime thing and you'll always
remember how much you enjoyed it. I suppose you don't
believe in vacations that might cost you $400 a day
including all of the associated costs? And, the people who
might pay $400 to play at Pebble Beach probably aren't
interested in riding your Basso.

BTW, if you pay your $40 annual dues to the NorCal Golf
Assoc. you can play at their tournament-class course right
near Pebble Beach for about $45 during the week. The worst
is near Scotsdale, AZ where you have to pay $80-$120 to play
on an ordinary course.

-WG

On 04/14/2004 10:11 PM, in article
[email hidden], "Tom Kunich"

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I paid almost $4K for my Eddy Merckx Corsa 0.1 and I
hardly ride it because I hate to take out something that
expensive to get all dirty.

Repeat after me. "It's just a bike. It's okay to get it
dirty. It's okay to ride it in the rain. It's okay to get it
muddy and greasy."

And you don't even have to worry about salt.

It's supposed to rain today. I think I'll ride my 2003
Record/Richard Sachs to work.

--
Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks
at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum pax est libertas
servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee
sea aye tee why you ti ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon [for
word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-
ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash

On 04/14/2004 11:14 PM, in article [email hidden],

warren said:

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On 04/14/2004 09:42 AM, in article
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> "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> "Tim Mullin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>>> Except for a few of the majors, golf sponsors pay way
>>> out of proportion for the number of
> eyeballs
>>> watching. They're paying for image among what they
>>> consider a prime demographic.
>>
>> The greens fees at many upscale golf links are more
>> for a single day

than

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>> you or I pay for a bicycle.
>
> Your bike only cost $100.00?

Greens fees at Pebble Beach are pushing $400.00 last I
checked ... And I know a lot of people who balk at
paying more than that for a bike.

I think that my favorite bike, the Basso Loto, cost me
$275 for frame and fork. I had an older Campy group
laying around waiting for it and got some 9-speed levers
for a song. I paid almost $4K for my Eddy Merckx Corsa
0.1 and I hardly ride it because I hate to take out
something that expensive to get all dirty. My latest
Merckx is the EX titanium and it cost about what a
foursome at Hawaii does.

Anyone know what the Atlanta Golf Club charges? Bet it
ain't hay.

So what? It's a once in a lifetime thing and you'll always
remember how much you enjoyed it. I suppose you don't
believe in vacations that might cost you $400 a day
including all of the associated costs? And, the people who
might pay $400 to play at Pebble Beach probably aren't
interested in riding your Basso.

BTW, if you pay your $40 annual dues to the NorCal Golf
Assoc. you can play at their tournament-class course right
near Pebble Beach for about $45 during the week. The worst
is near Scotsdale, AZ where you have to pay $80-$120 to
play on an ordinary course.

Only in the winter.

During the summer, most of the courses in Scottsdale are
much cheaper, according to my step-dad in Fountain Hills
and my step-brother, who lives at Troon North near
Pinnacle Peak.

Of course, in the summer, the best tee-times are
around 6:00 am.

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Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks
at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum pax est libertas
servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee
sea aye tee why you ti ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon [for
word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-
ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash

"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Well you see the crowds they get when a race is going on
in France. In the US, the crowds suck. We are too busy
watching NASCAR or interested in huge powerful SUV's and
whatever else is big and powerful. We don't care about
cycling unfortunately. Here in Pittsburgh we had a race
called the Thrift Drug Classic. It was a great race, but
no one came to it. I mean no one. I could just drive down
and park anywhere I wanted and watch where ever I pleased.
There were more policeman at the race than fans or
supporters. By the way, Lance was here racing in it and
that didn't even make a difference. It was part of a
series of races to win a million dollars.

Look at the races in France. The streets are filled with
cheering educated fans. Lets face it, they have it going
on over there and we don't. Most everyone in the US just
look at bicycles as an annoyance. We have a guy that
already tied the record for the TdF and no one over here
cares. If he wins 6 and becomes the all-time tour winner,
maybe a few dozen people will notice over here.

I will say one thing for Lance, he is focused and it
doesn't seem to bother him he has very little support in
his home country. He is amazingly strong mentally to say
the least.

Curt

Curt,

You must have been on the wrong part of the Thrift Drug race
course because there were huge crowds on the Burma Road and
at the finish. OLN coverage of P-R was not as good as past
years. But man you can't fault their coverage of the PBR.
They really do a great job of bringing out each bull's
personality in the Up Close segments with the star bulls.
The greatest 8 seconds in sport (though only about 2 sconds
most of the time)over and over and over and over... Forget
cycling. Bull riding ROCKS!