OLN Coverage Sucked

The coverage was total [censored]. 20 min of commercials.
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I thought it was completely disjointed, but I guess it's
better than

nothing.

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How about that Leif Hoste and that flag? I am in utter
amazement that he kept his bike up. Wow.

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The coverage was total [censored]. 20 min of commercials. "C.
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I thought it was completely disjointed, but I guess it's
better than

nothing.

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How about that Leif Hoste and that flag? I am in utter
amazement that he kept his bike up. Wow.

What did you watch & France 2 had it on for five hours - no
commercials.

The coverage in America is brought to us by OLN.

You must understand, the US is not a cycling country. France
is. We got the coverage one would expect here in the US. I
am surprised it was covered at all.

Curt

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The coverage was total [censored]. 20 min of commercials. "C.
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I thought it was completely disjointed, but I guess
it's better than

nothing.

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How about that Leif Hoste and that flag? I am in utter
amazement that he kept his bike up. Wow.

What did you watch & France 2 had it on for five hours -
no commercials.

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You must understand, the US is not a cycling country.
France is. We got the coverage one would expect here in
the US. I am surprised it was

covered

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at all.

Agreed, great that we did have coverage. But it wasn't very
good... the first half-hour seemed useless, so, out of a 5+
hour race, you get one-half hour of decent race coverage?
No, if it was decent race coverage, there wouldn't have been
so much question during the final part of the race as to
where George Hincapie disappeared to.

Seemed like they could have done a better job of cherry-
picking the better parts of the race to show, since it's put
together hours before it's shown. And they could have edited
it better so we knew in semi-real-time what was going on
with George. It's not like they didn't play up George a lot
before and during the race!

Maybe it will make more sense when I watch it again.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
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Last year was a lot better, and showed a lot of the crashes.

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You must understand, the US is not a cycling country.
France is.

We got

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the coverage one would expect here in the US. I am
surprised it was

covered

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at all.

Agreed, great that we did have coverage. But it wasn't
very good...

the

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first half-hour seemed useless, so, out of a 5+ hour
race, you get

one-half

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hour of decent race coverage? No, if it was decent race
coverage,

there

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wouldn't have been so much question during the final part
of the race

as to

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where George Hincapie disappeared to.

Seemed like they could have done a better job of cherry-
picking the

better

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parts of the race to show, since it's put together hours
before it's

shown.

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And they could have edited it better so we knew in semi-real-
time what

was

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going on with George. It's not like they didn't play up
George a lot

before

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and during the race!

Maybe it will make more sense when I watch it again.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
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C. Zoh said:

I thought it was completely disjointed, but I guess it's
better than nothing.

How about that Leif Hoste and that flag? I am in utter
amazement that he kept his bike up. Wow.

i had problems following it too. i actually like that they
showed some of the earlier parts of the race, but the final
bit was confusing. mike made a good point that since they
had time to edit it, they could have done a better job.

i went out for 5 hours this morning/afternoon until i
crashed my own self out of tiredness. came home all sticky
and dirty and sore, in perfect shape to watch my tape of the
race 🙂 when j.m. flatted i scared the [censored] out of my dog
because i yelled "NOOOOOOO!!" so loud she thought she was in
serious trouble. heather

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Last year was a lot better, and showed a lot of the
crashes.

So it's not just NASCAR...

-Sonarrat.

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You must understand, the US is not a cycling country.
France is. We got the coverage one would expect here in
the US. I am surprised it was

covered

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at all.

Curt

It was disappointing because OLN has been doing 2 hours for
PR for the last 2 or 3 years. Their two hour coverage was
very good. Going back to a disjointed hour sucked.

Wade

The most frustrating thing was that they used one hour of
the allotted cycling coverage for a race (Flanders) that had
been repeated a few times already. They did the same for
Flanders last week. They could have done a decent job with 2
hours of the PR and 2 hrs of Flanders last week. Incredibly
disjointed. I got a better feel for the race reading the
"live" text coverage on the web.

Kendall

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You must understand, the US is not a cycling country.
France is. We

got

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the coverage one would expect here in the US. I am
surprised it was

covered

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at all.

Agreed, great that we did have coverage. But it wasn't
very good... the first half-hour seemed useless, so, out
of a 5+ hour race, you get

one-half

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hour of decent race coverage? No, if it was decent race
coverage, there wouldn't have been so much question during
the final part of the race as

to

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where George Hincapie disappeared to.

Seemed like they could have done a better job of cherry-
picking the better parts of the race to show, since it's
put together hours before it's

shown.

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And they could have edited it better so we knew in semi-real-
time what was going on with George. It's not like they
didn't play up George a lot

before

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and during the race!

Maybe it will make more sense when I watch it again.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
chainreactionbicycles.comchainreactionbicycles.comOpen ↗

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Last year was a lot better, and showed a lot of the
crashes.

So it's not just NASCAR...

-Sonarrat.

What are you talking about? Crashes of Paris-Roubaix are the
best part. Are you implying that people watch the engaging
racing? Absurd!

I agree with everybody else that the one-hour show was
poorly chosen and edited. Their coverage of Flanders, for
example, seemed better, even though it was also only an hour
of highlights.

For me, the story going into this year's race was Museeuw,
yet they didn't really emphasize it much - no pre-race shots
of him, not all that much in-race focus compared to what
they gave George, and nothing post-race at all about the end
of one of the most glorious careers of this generation. A
disappointment.

C. Zoh said:

I thought it was completely disjointed, but I guess it's
better than nothing.

How about that Leif Hoste and that flag? I am in utter
amazement that he kept his bike up. Wow.

So, euros with real coverage:

I know you get 5 hours or so. Do they break for
commercials constantly? Or do they run the last hour or so
straight through?

Here's what Americans saw: (and yes, I remember when I saw
nothing...)

Commesso break, cut, Arenberg, cut, Kirsipuu solo, cut,
Boonen/Hincapie break, cut, Hammond/Backstedt break, Museuuw
flat, cut, velodrome finish.

40 minutes total coverage. No continuity, no sensible
narrative. Just 5 or 6 seperate unconnected events
tacked together.

They did the same thing with Flanders last week. After every
commercial, 10-15 km lost on the editing floor.

Reading Cyclingnews has more suspense. OLN is just a tease.

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You must understand, the US is not a cycling country.
France is. We got the coverage one would expect here in
the US. I am surprised it was

covered

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at all.

So tell me why I was in that cycling country for two weeks
and until the Tour stage in Paris I never saw a single
Frenchman on a racing bike?

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The coverage in America is brought to us by OLN.

Once again, as mentioned probably a million times before,
it's still better than nothing. At least we get coverage
now. Aside from that, you could have read the live reports
on various cycling internet sites, and gotten a blow by blow
analysis of the really good stuff. OLN is the best, and only
coverage we've got of cycling events in the US. I'll take
that over nothing anyday.

Tom

Tom Kunich said:

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You must understand, the US is not a cycling country.
France is. We got the coverage one would expect here in
the US. I am surprised it was covered at all.

So tell me why I was in that cycling country for two weeks
and until the Tour stage in Paris I never saw a single
Frenchman on a racing bike?

Because they saw you first.

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The most frustrating thing was that they used one hour of
the allotted cycling coverage for a race (Flanders) that
had been repeated a few times already. They did the same
for Flanders last week. They could have done

a

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decent job with 2 hours of the PR and 2 hrs of Flanders
last week. Incredibly disjointed. I got a better feel for
the race reading the

"live"

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text coverage on the web.

Even worse, I went to a bit of trouble to avoid any
possibility of reading about the race before the (delayed)
telecast... and have to admit that I was getting my hopes up
as George maintained pretty decent positioning throughout
most of the race. Wasn't there a time, towards the end, when
it was just George and two or three others? Dang! To get
that far & run out of gas...

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:05:55 -0500, jesseth@removethis_gwi.net (Jesse

Thompson) said:

So, euros with real coverage:

I know you get 5 hours or so. Do they break for
commercials constantly? Or do they run the last hour or so
straight through?

I watched the Eurosport coverage. Coverage started at 1:30
(at about km 90 or so), and continued until the finish.
They have a (short) commercial break every 30 minutes or
so, but seem to go out of their way not to go break at
inappropriate times.

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

Even worse, I went to a bit of trouble to avoid any
possibility of reading about the race before the (delayed)
telecast... and have to admit that I was getting my hopes
up as George maintained pretty decent positioning
throughout most of the race. Wasn't there a time, towards
the end, when it was just George and two or three others?
Dang! To get that far & run out of gas...

I watched the Eurosport coverage live and my take was that
Boonen, Hincapie, and to a lesser extent Flecha (who was
mostly sitting on) burned theirselves out with what
appeared might be the race winning break. They went all out
and it looked like they might stay away, but ultimately
they got reeled in, and shortly after that the race-winning
break got away. It's no surprise that none of the three
were in that break.

Obviously there were some strong guys up there who
didn't want to let Boonen and Hincapie get away with
only 20km to go.

Ultimately Hincapie did better than Boonen because he beat
him in the sprint!

- David.