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  1. LRitchhart said:

    I am here to share information.

    'share' is MLMese for shill.

  2. When I have travelled extensively in Central and South America ...
    I've met many natives who swear by Noni!

    I believe that our Good Lord provided to us in the form of herbs and
    fruits and vegetables ... a magnificent supply of his life sustaining
    and healing substances ...

  3. Ilena Rose a écrit dans le message ...

    Quoted message said:

    When I have travelled extensively in Central and South America ...
    I've met many natives who swear by Noni!

    I believe that our Good Lord provided to us in the form of herbs and
    fruits and vegetables ... a magnificent supply of his life sustaining
    and healing substances ...

    Yes along with some very toxic ones that we should leave alone. Also, some
    that have little effect one way or another. Many plants for use of other
    creatures such as milk weed for some lovely butterflys but which are poison
    to humans.
    The good Lord was also kind enough also to give
    most human good enough sense to know when they are being conned by
    charlatans!!

    JL

    PS L.W. slow day did not feel like working and no one interesting around!!

  4. maison.mousse said:


    Ilena Rose a écrit dans le message ...

    Quoted message said:

    When I have travelled extensively in Central and South America ...
    I've met many natives who swear by Noni!

    I believe that our Good Lord provided to us in the form of herbs and
    fruits and vegetables ... a magnificent supply of his life sustaining
    and healing substances ...

    Yes along with some very toxic ones that we should leave alone. Also, some
    that have little effect one way or another. Many plants for use of other
    creatures such as milk weed for some lovely butterflys but which are poison
    to humans.
    The good Lord was also kind enough also to give
    most human good enough sense to know when they are being conned by
    charlatans!!

    JL

    Unusual for me to thank you for adding a note of sanity, but....
    Thanks. Some people just don't realize that not every plant in the
    world was made to be useful or helpful or good to humans beings. I
    don't think the particular poster you were responding to was
    necessarily one of them, but some grab that idea and generalize on it
    too much. And the noni thing is going to cost more in the long run
    than almost any sensible regimen and not do what the promoters promise
    and half promise.

    Cyli
    r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
    Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

    http://www.visi.com/~cyli
    email: [email hidden] (strip the .invalid to email)

  5. LRitchhart said:

    I am here to share information. Yes, Mannatech is the prime company that
    first made health supplements with the necessary glyconutrients in them. But
    there are other company's popping up.

    I'm sure that your 'informative' website will feature these other
    companies' products soon.

    Quoted message said:

    As far as I am concerned, everyone needs to know about the neccessity of
    "glyconutrients" and what they are. As far as getting those glyconutrients
    it is up to them to choose the company or product they want to use.

    Here is third-party information for you skeptics who say it's all Mannatech
    hype!

    <SNIP reference to Harpers Biochemistry>

    <SNIP reference to The Physician's Desk Reference (PDR)>

    <SNIP reference to Science Magazine>

    <SNIP reference to Acta Anatomica Glycosciences - issue 161/1-4/98>

    <SNIP reference to Technology Review (MIT)>

    <SNIP reference to Scientific American - MEDICINE>

    Quoted message said:

    Those are all VALID scientific resources. I certainly hope there isn't a
    "conspiracy" between them all to "scam" as many people as they can!!

    I don't think that there's a single reference in any of those sources
    supporting any Mannatech product. Thank-you for not stating that there
    is any such reference. It is your intention to suggest there is such
    a reference by implication in your post. There is no reason to
    associate any of those sources with this scam.

    You have not provided any information showing any benefit for
    Mannatech products. I'm sure they're good for lining someone's pocket
    with money taken from fools, that's a benefit of sorts. These products
    continue to appear to be all hype.

    Glyconutrients may be capable of great things but that doesn't mean
    there won't be a lot of [censored] using that word on the bottle (or
    website). Mannatech's history leads us to expect nothing else.

  6. "ted rosenberg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The stuff is PURE fraud, and there is NO "good science"

    Generally speaking, if a product is sold through any kind of marketing
    scheme (Noni juice, when it first became popular and maybe even now is
    mainly sold through pyramid marketing schemes) it usually has no value and
    no supporting evidence other than a TON of anecdotes.

    Again generally speaking, when a supplement becomes widely popular without a
    marketing scheme, like for example glucosamine, it usually does have some
    value.

  7. Noni juice may have some benefits but you are correct that some of the
    main brands use pyramid/network type selling schemes, the end user
    having to pay for layers and layers of distributors.

    One of the medical spokesmen is very dodgy indeed!

  8. Quoted message said:

    Noni juice may have some benefits but you are correct that some of the
    main brands use pyramid/network type selling schemes, the end user
    having to pay for layers and layers of distributors.

    One of the medical spokesmen is very dodgy indeed!

    Did you know that noni juice is laced with chamicals related to
    aspartame and MSG? I bet none of the sales sites mentions that.

  9. Never taken it myself but it probably depends on the manufacturer -
    there are lotsa different brands where I live. It was just kinda
    eye-popping to read the bio of this so-called doctor knowing his pyscho
    background! Aint going to name him as he goes to extreme lengths to
    keep his front up. But it does make you wonder how much truth there is
    in other products endorsements; it is so easy to twist the English
    language.

  10. Quoted message said:

    Never taken it myself but it probably depends on the manufacturer -
    there are lotsa different brands where I live. It was just kinda
    eye-popping to read the bio of this so-called doctor knowing his pyscho
    background! Aint going to name him as he goes to extreme lengths to
    keep his front up. But it does make you wonder how much truth there is
    in other products endorsements; it is so easy to twist the English
    language.

    Welcome to misc.health.alternative, where they use alternative logic,
    alternative thinking, and alternative definitions of words (when you can
    pin them down and actually have them define a word.)

  11. "Mark Probert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Never taken it myself but it probably depends on the manufacturer -
    there are lotsa different brands where I live. It was just kinda
    eye-popping to read the bio of this so-called doctor knowing his pyscho
    background! Aint going to name him as he goes to extreme lengths to
    keep his front up. But it does make you wonder how much truth there is
    in other products endorsements; it is so easy to twist the English
    language.

    Welcome to misc.health.alternative, where they use alternative logic,
    alternative thinking, and alternative definitions of words (when you can
    pin them down and actually have them define a word.)

    Actually, Mark Probert who is a Liar, like this:

    Searched all groups Results 1 - 2 of 2 for group:misc.kids.health
    insubject:14 insubject:year insubject:old insubject:boy insubject:dies
    insubject:from insubject:Ritalin (0.61 seconds)

  12. LadyLollipop said:

    "Mark Probert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Never taken it myself but it probably depends on the manufacturer -
    there are lotsa different brands where I live. It was just kinda
    eye-popping to read the bio of this so-called doctor knowing his pyscho
    background! Aint going to name him as he goes to extreme lengths to
    keep his front up. But it does make you wonder how much truth there is
    in other products endorsements; it is so easy to twist the English
    language.

    Welcome to misc.health.alternative, where they use alternative logic,
    alternative thinking, and alternative definitions of words (when you can
    pin them down and actually have them define a word.)

    Actually, Mark Probert who is a Liar, like this:

    Searched all groups Results 1 - 2 of 2 for group:misc.kids.health
    insubject:14 insubject:year insubject:old insubject:boy insubject:dies
    insubject:from insubject:Ritalin (0.61 seconds)

    Other than the point under your wig, did you have one?

    BTW, thanks for an excellent example of alternative logic.

  13. LadyLollipop said:


    "Mark Probert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Never taken it myself but it probably depends on the manufacturer -
    there are lotsa different brands where I live. It was just kinda
    eye-popping to read the bio of this so-called doctor knowing his pyscho
    background! Aint going to name him as he goes to extreme lengths to
    keep his front up. But it does make you wonder how much truth there is
    in other products endorsements; it is so easy to twist the English
    language.

    Welcome to misc.health.alternative, where they use alternative logic,
    alternative thinking, and alternative definitions of words (when you can
    pin them down and actually have them define a word.)

    Actually, Mark Probert who is a Liar, like this:

    Searched all groups Results 1 - 2 of 2 for group:misc.kids.health
    insubject:14 insubject:year insubject:old insubject:boy insubject:dies
    insubject:from insubject:Ritalin (0.61 seconds)

    Searched all groups Results 1 - 10 of 10 for jan makes todd pant
    with desire (0.25 seconds)
    --
    Peter Bowditch aa #2243
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
    Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  14. "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    LadyLollipop said:


    "Mark Probert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] wrote:
    > Never taken it myself but it probably depends on the manufacturer -
    > there are lotsa different brands where I live. It was just kinda
    > eye-popping to read the bio of this so-called doctor knowing his pyscho
    > background! Aint going to name him as he goes to extreme lengths to
    > keep his front up. But it does make you wonder how much truth there is
    > in other products endorsements; it is so easy to twist the English
    > language.
    >

    Welcome to misc.health.alternative, where they use alternative logic,
    alternative thinking, and alternative definitions of words (when you can
    pin them down and actually have them define a word.)

    Actually, Mark Probert who is a Liar, like this:

    Searched all groups Results 1 - 2 of 2 for group:misc.kids.health
    insubject:14 insubject:year insubject:old insubject:boy insubject:dies
    insubject:from insubject:Ritalin (0.61 seconds)

    Searched all groups Results 1 - 10 of 10 for jan makes todd pant
    with desire (0.25 seconds)
    --
    Peter Bowditch

    Who has the integrity to speak up and say Mark Probert is a liar?

    In addition to the above, which Peter can clearly see in a lie, his name is
    below.

    Integrity, HE HAS NOT!!!!!!!

    "Mark Probert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    LadyLollipop said:

    "Mark Probert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    LadyLollipop wrote:

    >"Mark Probert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    >news:[email hidden]...
    >
    >
    >>LadyLollipop wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>He did NOT post it here, WHY are you???????
    >>
    >>So that Google can archive it for posterity.
    >
    >
    >YOU are such a LIAR, Mark Probert!!!!!

    No, moron, that is *exactly* why I did it.

    misc . health . kids
    Start a new topic - Unsubscribe or change membership - About this
    group

    You cannot post messages because this group is only available as an
    archive.

    See? That is what Google says.

    >And, for the casual reader, please note that this coward posted in a
    >group which Google does not archive.

    Yes, see above. The message which you cited is NOT available in
    misc.kids.health which Google does not archive. ONLY messages that are
    crossposted, with mkh as part of the crosspost are archived...in the
    other newsgroups. That is why you Jew hating friend posted only in mkh.

    #1. misc. health. kids is a google news groups

    ANY google newsgroups CAN be archived.

    #2. misc. health. kids is NOT where the post WAS POSTED!

    YOU ARE A PATHETIC HOPELESS REPEATEDLY LIAR, WHO LIES AGAIN, WHEN CAUGHT
    LYING.

    Here is the proof ONCE AGAIN. Note mics. kids. health

    Newsgroups: misc.kids.health
    From: "Majusmaximum" <[email hidden]> - Find messages by this
    author
    Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 12:52:15 -0400
    Local: Sat, Sep 17 2005 11:52 am
    Subject: Re: 14 year old boy dies from Ritalin
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    Mark Probert defended the cutting of a newborn male's sex orans on grounds
    of Judaism being a recognized religion. All depends on your definition
    of "recognized religion", I guess.

    When someone cuts a normal, useful part off a helpless baby, in the name
    of religion, that to me is a cult. Very cult-ish behavior, especially the
    sucking of the baby's penis amongst certain sub-groups of that cult after
    the cutting, supposedly to staunch the bloodflow, but to my eyes it looks
    like 4-star pedophilia.

    In fact, if any man other than a jewish official babycutter were to be
    caught sucking a baby's penis, bleeding or not, he would be in jail so
    fast...

    Just recently a baby jew in New York DIED in the name of that cult's
    practice: the ritual circumciser infected the godforsaken baby boy with
    herpes after he sucked the penis. Two other victims of this Fischer guy
    contracted herpes but did not die.

    So, don't defend cultish, sick-making behavior on grounds of ancient
    religious belief. You know better and so do we all here. Throwing
    virgins over a cliff in ancient South America is also ancient religious
    practice.

    If jew Probert wants to do something nasty, he calls in Religion. If
    anybody else wants to inflict harmful behavior, hey, it's a CULT.

    Scientology looks like a teaparty by comparison, but trust the jew Probert
    to ignore every word here, or twist it around.

    Yer sick ritual is on its way out, buddy, like it or not.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    WOW.

    IS THERE ANY LIMIT TO THE LIES YOU WILL TELL?!?!

    Yes, and that is zero. Only you see lies. I met a guy the other night who
    sees pink elephants. Perhaps you should get together.

    Quoted message said:

    I DID NONE OF THE ABOVE. I ARCHIVED A POST AND YOU CLEARLY SAW IT!!!!!!!

    That is what I did. I archived a post that the bigot posted in a newsgroup
    that Google no longer archives. You were not involved, until you whined
    about my crossposting, which was the only way to archive that post.

    Quoted message said:

    WHAT A HOPLELESS TOTAL LIAR YOU
    ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Is any of the *gang* going to speak up here???

    Let's hear it?

    Who among you has one shed of integrity?!?!

    Jan, the *gang*, whomever that it, unlike you, has not *shed* their
    integrity.

    I repeat:

    Who here has the integrity to speak up to this BLATANT lie Mark Probert has
    told?

    Rich Shewmaker?

    CathyB?

    Peter Bowditch?

    Mark Thorson?

    Rich..@..?

    JohnDoe?

    Orac?

    Mark MD?

    Vasthi?

    Twittering One?

    HCN?

    Jeff?

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