On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 01:44:14 -0400, "Dee Dee" <[email hidden]>
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buy Hellman's mayo, add a little vinegar and sugar to taste.
I bought Hellman's for thirty years. A couple of months ago, Fine Cooking did a review of jarred mayo from regional to national brands. They rated Kraft Mayo, not Miracle Whip over all brands including Duke brand.
I tried the Kraft Mayo and will NEVER buy anything but Kraft mayo again. It is just like homemade. Smooth and creamy....very nice.
I'll have to try the Kraft, somewhere along the way the Hellman's recipe seems to have changed for the worse, it used to be very good, now is so-so.
Any fisherpersons in your circle of acquaintances? If so, how do they pronounce this fish:
crappie
Do they turn it into "croppie", to avoid the bad word that will bring sin and destruction upon their houses?
No, we say "croppie" because that's the correct way to pronounce it. "-) -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://www.jamlady.eboard.com - story and pics of Ronald McDonald House dinner posted 6-24-2007
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Any fisherpersons in your circle of acquaintances? If so, how do they pronounce this fish:
crappie
Do they turn it into "croppie", to avoid the bad word that will bring sin and destruction upon their houses?
No, we say "croppie" because that's the correct way to pronounce it. "-) -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Absurd. You say it that way out of some fake sense of propriety. If you pronounced "map" like "mop", any good English teacher would beat you with a ruler, and be totally justified in doing so.
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Any fisherpersons in your circle of acquaintances? If so, how do they pronounce this fish:
crappie
Do they turn it into "croppie", to avoid the bad word that will bring
sin
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and destruction upon their houses?
No, we say "croppie" because that's the correct way to pronounce it. "-)
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They ain't no O in Crappie :-)
*Mode off*
Heard it both ways throughout my life in many parts of the country, but this is the first time I've ever heard of sin & destruction tied to the "a" version :-)
KW
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-- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://www.jamlady.eboard.com - story and pics of Ronald McDonald House dinner posted 6-24-2007
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Any fisherpersons in your circle of acquaintances? If so, how do they pronounce this fish:
crappie
Do they turn it into "croppie", to avoid the bad word that will bring
sin
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and destruction upon their houses?
No, we say "croppie" because that's the correct way to pronounce it. "-)
*backwoods voice mode on*
They ain't no O in Crappie :-)
*Mode off*
Heard it both ways throughout my life in many parts of the country, but this is the first time I've ever heard of sin & destruction tied to the "a" version :-)
That's the only reason I can come up with for pronouncing it that way, other than illiteracy. Fake decency examples are everywhere. People in newsgroups type [censored] instead of [censored]. Are they kidding?
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> Any fisherpersons in your circle of acquaintances? If so, how do they > pronounce this fish: > > crappie > > Do they turn it into "croppie", to avoid the bad word that will bring
sin
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> and destruction upon their houses?
No, we say "croppie" because that's the correct way to pronounce it.
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*backwoods voice mode on*
They ain't no O in Crappie :-)
*Mode off*
Heard it both ways throughout my life in many parts of the country, but this is the first time I've ever heard of sin & destruction tied to the "a" version :-)
That's the only reason I can come up with for pronouncing it that way,
other
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than illiteracy. Fake decency examples are everywhere. People in
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type [censored] instead of [censored]. Are they kidding?
My deep south (Central Alabama) grandparents often fought over this very thing. Memaw claimed the long a variant (Croppie) and Papaw the short a (Crappie). One time when I was ~16, Memaw was in a huff and pulled out the dictionary to prove her point and Papaw politely told her to kiss his ass! Never Surrender ! :-)
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"Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, > "JoeSpareBedroom" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > Any fisherpersons in your circle of acquaintances? If so, how do > > they > > pronounce this fish: > > > > crappie > > > > Do they turn it into "croppie", to avoid the bad word that will > > bring sin > > and destruction upon their houses? > > No, we say "croppie" because that's the correct way to pronounce it.
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*backwoods voice mode on*
They ain't no O in Crappie :-)
*Mode off*
Heard it both ways throughout my life in many parts of the country, but this is the first time I've ever heard of sin & destruction tied to the "a" version :-)
That's the only reason I can come up with for pronouncing it that way,
other
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than illiteracy. Fake decency examples are everywhere. People in
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type [censored] instead of [censored]. Are they kidding?
My deep south (Central Alabama) grandparents often fought over this very thing. Memaw claimed the long a variant (Croppie) and Papaw the short a (Crappie). One time when I was ~16, Memaw was in a huff and pulled out the dictionary to prove her point and Papaw politely told her to kiss his ass! Never Surrender ! :-)
OK, but there's no long or short debate here. Both pronunciations are the short version of the vowels involved. What a way to confuse kids and undo what teachers are trying to achieve. Illiteracy is often hereditary.
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Any fisherpersons in your circle of acquaintances? If so, how do they pronounce this fish:
crappie
Do they turn it into "croppie", to avoid the bad word that will bring sin and destruction upon their houses?
No, we say "croppie" because that's the correct way to pronounce it. "-) -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Absurd. You say it that way out of some fake sense of propriety. If you pronounced "map" like "mop", any good English teacher would beat you with a ruler, and be totally justified in doing so.
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Heard it both ways throughout my life in many parts of the country, but this is the first time I've ever heard of sin & destruction tied to the "a" version :-)
That's the only reason I can come up with for pronouncing it that way, other than illiteracy. Fake decency examples are everywhere. People in newsgroups type [censored] instead of [censored]. Are they kidding?
I have heard the "decency" explanation many times.
Here in North Carolina you hear both. The local Baptists and other bible-thumpers say croppie.
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"KW" <keith_warrennospamatallteldotnet> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > "Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> In article <[email hidden]>, >> "JoeSpareBedroom" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> > Any fisherpersons in your circle of acquaintances? If so, how do >> > they >> > pronounce this fish: >> > >> > crappie >> > >> > Do they turn it into "croppie", to avoid the bad word that will >> > bring > sin >> > and destruction upon their houses? >> >> No, we say "croppie" because that's the correct way to pronounce it.
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> > *backwoods voice mode on* > > They ain't no O in Crappie :-) > > *Mode off* > > Heard it both ways throughout my life in many parts of the country,
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> version :-)
That's the only reason I can come up with for pronouncing it that way,
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than illiteracy. Fake decency examples are everywhere. People in
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type [censored] instead of [censored]. Are they kidding?
My deep south (Central Alabama) grandparents often fought over this very thing. Memaw claimed the long a variant (Croppie) and Papaw the short a (Crappie). One time when I was ~16, Memaw was in a huff and pulled out
the
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dictionary to prove her point and Papaw politely told her to kiss his
ass!
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Never Surrender ! :-)
OK, but there's no long or short debate here. Both pronunciations are the short version of the vowels involved. What a way to confuse kids and undo what teachers are trying to achieve.
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Illiteracy is often hereditary.
I find that statement to be true quite often and it applies equally to inflated self-images.
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There are people who say catsup? Huh. I say ketchup no matter how it's spelled. Midwestern born and bred.
I'm a native Californicator. I say ketchup, I spell it catsup. In all of my travels, domestic and international, I have never actually heard anyone call it "catsup". ToMAHto sauce, yes, catsup, no.
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> Any fisherpersons in your circle of acquaintances? If so, how do they > pronounce this fish: > > crappie > > Do they turn it into "croppie", to avoid the bad word that will bring > sin > and destruction upon their houses?
No, we say "croppie" because that's the correct way to pronounce it. "-) -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
Absurd. You say it that way out of some fake sense of propriety. If you pronounced "map" like "mop", any good English teacher would beat you with a ruler, and be totally justified in doing so.
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "KW" <keith_warrennospamatallteldotnet> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > "Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > >> In article <[email hidden]>, > >> "JoeSpareBedroom" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> > >> > Any fisherpersons in your circle of acquaintances? If so, how do > >> > they > >> > pronounce this fish: > >> > > >> > crappie > >> > > >> > Do they turn it into "croppie", to avoid the bad word that will > >> > bring > > sin > >> > and destruction upon their houses? > >> > >> No, we say "croppie" because that's the correct way to pronounce > >> it. "-) > > > > *backwoods voice mode on* > > > > They ain't no O in Crappie :-) > > > > *Mode off* > > > > Heard it both ways throughout my life in many parts of the country,
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> > version :-) > > > That's the only reason I can come up with for pronouncing it that way, other > than illiteracy. Fake decency examples are everywhere. People in newsgroups > type [censored] instead of [censored]. Are they kidding? > >
My deep south (Central Alabama) grandparents often fought over this very thing. Memaw claimed the long a variant (Croppie) and Papaw the short a (Crappie). One time when I was ~16, Memaw was in a huff and pulled out
the
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dictionary to prove her point and Papaw politely told her to kiss his
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Never Surrender ! :-)
OK, but there's no long or short debate here. Both pronunciations are the short version of the vowels involved. What a way to confuse kids and undo what teachers are trying to achieve.
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Illiteracy is often hereditary.
I find that statement to be true quite often and it applies equally to inflated self-images.
I'm simply stating facts. I know they're often annoying and inconvenient, but still, they are facts.
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"KW" <keith_warrennospamatallteldotnet> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > "JoeSpareBedroom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> "KW" <keith_warrennospamatallteldotnet> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> > >> > "Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > news:[email hidden]... >> >> In article <[email hidden]>, >> >> "JoeSpareBedroom" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Any fisherpersons in your circle of acquaintances? If so, how
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>> >> > they >> >> > pronounce this fish: >> >> > >> >> > crappie >> >> > >> >> > Do they turn it into "croppie", to avoid the bad word that will >> >> > bring >> > sin >> >> > and destruction upon their houses? >> >> >> >> No, we say "croppie" because that's the correct way to pronounce >> >> it. > "-) >> > >> > *backwoods voice mode on* >> > >> > They ain't no O in Crappie :-) >> > >> > *Mode off* >> > >> > Heard it both ways throughout my life in many parts of the
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>> > version :-) >> >> >> That's the only reason I can come up with for pronouncing it that
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> other >> than illiteracy. Fake decency examples are everywhere. People in > newsgroups >> type [censored] instead of [censored]. Are they kidding? >> >> > > My deep south (Central Alabama) grandparents often fought over this > very > thing. Memaw claimed the long a variant (Croppie) and Papaw the short
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> (Crappie). One time when I was ~16, Memaw was in a huff and pulled
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> Never Surrender ! :-)
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short version of the vowels involved. What a way to confuse kids and
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what teachers are trying to achieve.
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Illiteracy is often hereditary.
I find that statement to be true quite often and it applies equally to inflated self-images.
I'm simply stating facts. I know they're often annoying and inconvenient, but still, they are facts.
As a point of clarification, I was simply re-affirming your point and adding an observation in a similar vein. The second point wasn't directed at you.
If you took it that way, then perhaps it may apply after all.
In retrospect, I suppose you may have been directing the illiteracy comment towards myself and my lineage....if that's the case then your allegations are built on a very flimsy single thread of evidence and in truth you are way off base.
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"JoeSpareBedroom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "KW" <keith_warrennospamatallteldotnet> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > "JoeSpareBedroom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > >> "KW" <keith_warrennospamatallteldotnet> wrote in message > >> news:[email hidden]... > >> > > >> > "Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> > news:[email hidden]... > >> >> In article <[email hidden]>, > >> >> "JoeSpareBedroom" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Any fisherpersons in your circle of acquaintances? If so, how
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> >> >> > they > >> >> > pronounce this fish: > >> >> > > >> >> > crappie > >> >> > > >> >> > Do they turn it into "croppie", to avoid the bad word that > >> >> > will > >> >> > bring > >> > sin > >> >> > and destruction upon their houses? > >> >> > >> >> No, we say "croppie" because that's the correct way to pronounce > >> >> it. > > "-) > >> > > >> > *backwoods voice mode on* > >> > > >> > They ain't no O in Crappie :-) > >> > > >> > *Mode off* > >> > > >> > Heard it both ways throughout my life in many parts of the
country,
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but > >> > this > >> > is the first time I've ever heard of sin & destruction tied to > >> > the "a" > >> > version :-) > >> > >> > >> That's the only reason I can come up with for pronouncing it that
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> > other > >> than illiteracy. Fake decency examples are everywhere. People in > > newsgroups > >> type [censored] instead of [censored]. Are they kidding? > >> > >> > > > > My deep south (Central Alabama) grandparents often fought over this > > very > > thing. Memaw claimed the long a variant (Croppie) and Papaw the > > short
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> > (Crappie). One time when I was ~16, Memaw was in a huff and pulled
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the > > dictionary to prove her point and Papaw politely told her to kiss > > his ass! > > Never Surrender ! :-) > > > OK, but there's no long or short debate here. Both pronunciations are
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> what teachers are trying to achieve.
> Illiteracy is often hereditary. > >
I find that statement to be true quite often and it applies equally to inflated self-images.
I'm simply stating facts. I know they're often annoying and inconvenient, but still, they are facts.
As a point of clarification, I was simply re-affirming your point and adding an observation in a similar vein. The second point wasn't directed at you.
If you took it that way, then perhaps it may apply after all.
In retrospect, I suppose you may have been directing the illiteracy comment towards myself and my lineage....if that's the case then your allegations are built on a very flimsy single thread of evidence and in truth you are way off base.
My comments were aimed at your parents' explanation of the two versions of the word. You obviously rose above it all.
Bob, are you from the USan south/southeast? Nothing pejorative intended; just a question, as I'm curious about the demographics of Miracle Whip preference.
I am in California, but visit North Dakota every year in the summer. In California, I never buy Miracle Whip but when in North Dakota, Miracle Whip is a MUST. For some reason, I use it on ham sandwiches or in macaroni salad while in ND, but just use mayo in California. It's weird, isn't it?, and my whole family does it, too.
Absurd. You say it that way out of some fake sense of propriety. If you pronounced "map" like "mop", any good English teacher would beat you with a ruler, and be totally justified in doing so.
According to the M-W online dictionary, croppie is the correct pronunciation. Click on the little speaker symbol to hear it pronounced, if you don't believe what you see.
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Absurd. You say it that way out of some fake sense of propriety. If you pronounced "map" like "mop", any good English teacher would beat you with a ruler, and be totally justified in doing so.
According to the M-W online dictionary, croppie is the correct pronunciation. Click on the little speaker symbol to hear it pronounced, if you don't believe what you see.