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  1. Anyone want to lay odds now on whether LA can win number 7? ๐Ÿ™‚

  2. First let's lay odds on him even trying. We'll know this long before the
    '05 TdF.

    As savvy an entrepreneur as he surely knows the benefits of 'going out' a
    winner. Or, in another's words, "A good man knows his limitations." and I'm
    sure LA knows his.

    Mebbe he will and betty won't.

    "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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  3. Doug Huffman wrote:
    :: First let's lay odds on him even trying. We'll know this long
    :: before the '05 TdF.

    I think he's already said he will continue to race...

    ::
    :: As savvy an entrepreneur as he surely knows the benefits of 'going
    :: out' a winner. Or, in another's words, "A good man knows his
    :: limitations." and I'm sure LA knows his.
    ::
    :: Mebbe he will and betty won't.
    ::
    ::
    :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    ::: Anyone want to lay odds now on whether LA can win number 7? ๐Ÿ™‚

  4. Doug Huffman said:

    First let's lay odds on him even trying. We'll know this long before the
    '05 TdF.

    As savvy an entrepreneur as he surely knows the benefits of 'going out' a
    winner. Or, in another's words, "A good man knows his limitations." and I'm
    sure LA knows his.

    Think the way a six time winner of the TdF might be thinking sometime
    mid-August (if not before):

    "...hmm, that wasn't -that- hard. If I win -Seven- TdF...I'll be
    untouchable."

    -B

    Quoted message said:


    Mebbe he will and betty won't.

    "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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  5. Scott said:

    Doesn't he have to win #6 first? ๐Ÿ˜‰

    I'm not sure how many yellow jersey holders have faltered due to illness
    or mechanical kerflooeyness at this stage of the game. But surely it
    could happen.

    Scott

    Our theory at the LBS is that the only likely "accident" that would cost
    him the race is an overzealous and tipply American fan that might knock
    him of the bike. LOL.

    "Go Dude!!!"

    thud

    "oops..."

  6. Race, yeah. I didn't hear TdF.

    "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    | Doug Huffman wrote:
    | :: First let's lay odds on him even trying. We'll know this long
    | :: before the '05 TdF.
    |
    | I think he's already said he will continue to race...
    |
    | ::
    | :: As savvy an entrepreneur as he surely knows the benefits of 'going
    | :: out' a winner. Or, in another's words, "A good man knows his
    | :: limitations." and I'm sure LA knows his.
    | ::
    | :: Mebbe he will and betty won't.
    | ::
    | ::
    | :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | :: news:[email hidden]...
    | ::: Anyone want to lay odds now on whether LA can win number 7? ๐Ÿ™‚
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  7. Doug Huffman said:

    Race, yeah. I didn't hear TdF.

    I think the interesting part is that they just got new sponsers. And I
    have to believe those new sponsers aren't going to sponser the team
    (including rolling Lance out as was shown on something I caught on OLN
    called "The Lance Chronicles"๐Ÿ˜‰. So my guess is that he already agreed to
    race and probably do the TDF in some capacity. What would be interesting
    is if somewhere during the season it became apparent he wasn't the
    strongest rider (could happen in a year's time, who knows) and ended up
    helping someone else. I doubt that will happen. But that would be more
    entertaining and more compelling a story than Lance going out for #7 with
    Team Discovery.

    Preston

  8. "Doug Huffman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Race, yeah. I didn't hear TdF.

    I would be very surprised if Discovery Communications signed on for
    sponsorship of the team without some assurance from Lance that he would at
    least go one more year in the spotlight. And the TdF *is* the spotlight.

    RichC

  9. maxo said:
    Scott said:

    Doesn't he have to win #6 first? ๐Ÿ˜‰

    I'm not sure how many yellow jersey holders have faltered due to illness
    or mechanical kerflooeyness at this stage of the game. But surely it
    could happen.

    Scott

    Our theory at the LBS is that the only likely "accident" that would cost
    him the race is an overzealous and tipply American fan that might knock
    him of the bike. LOL.

    "Go Dude!!!"

    Is that guy who caught the ball at the Cubs game vacationing in
    France now?

    scott

  10. Preston Crawford said:
    Doug Huffman said:

    Race, yeah. I didn't hear TdF.

    I think the interesting part is that they just got new sponsers. And I
    have to believe those new sponsers aren't going to sponser the team
    (including rolling Lance out as was shown on something I caught on OLN
    called "The Lance Chronicles"๐Ÿ˜‰. So my guess is that he already agreed to
    race and probably do the TDF in some capacity. What would be interesting
    is if somewhere during the season it became apparent he wasn't the
    strongest rider (could happen in a year's time, who knows) and ended up
    helping someone else. I doubt that will happen. But that would be more
    entertaining and more compelling a story than Lance going out for #7 with
    Team Discovery.

    Preston

    Huh? You've -got- to be kidding. More compelling to my grandma, maybe.
    ;-D

    -B

  11. Scott said:

    s that guy who caught the ball at the Cubs game vacationing in France
    now?

    scott

    BOOM BOOM!

    ๐Ÿ˜„

  12. Roger Zoul said:

    Anyone want to lay odds now on whether LA can win number 7? ๐Ÿ™‚

    jinx.
    --
    david reuteler
    [email hidden]

  13. The question isn't whether LA CAN win #7; the question is whether he wants to.

  14. "Doug Huffman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Race, yeah. I didn't hear TdF.

    Of course he is going to race in next years tour. He just signed a deal
    with Discovery and he indicated he will ride the TdF for another year.

    Curt

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    "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    | Doug Huffman wrote:
    | :: First let's lay odds on him even trying. We'll know this long
    | :: before the '05 TdF.
    |
    | I think he's already said he will continue to race...
    |
    | ::
    | :: As savvy an entrepreneur as he surely knows the benefits of 'going
    | :: out' a winner. Or, in another's words, "A good man knows his
    | :: limitations." and I'm sure LA knows his.
    | ::
    | :: Mebbe he will and betty won't.
    | ::
    | ::
    | :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | :: news:[email hidden]...
    | ::: Anyone want to lay odds now on whether LA can win number 7? ๐Ÿ™‚
    |
    |

  15. "curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Doug Huffman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Race, yeah. I didn't hear TdF.

    Of course he is going to race in next years tour. He just signed a deal
    with Discovery and he indicated he will ride the TdF for another year.

    On The Lance Chronicles, the Discovery spokesman said, holding up a
    Discovery jersey, "And here's what Lance will be wearing for win #7". Lance
    said "Let's get through #6 first"

    Pete

  16. "Doug Huffman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Race, yeah. I didn't hear TdF.


    I heard him say he loved the TdF most of all. That leads to believe he would
    definitely race the TdF. Also heard rumors he'd like to race the Giro. He
    needs something else to prove he's a great cyclist, something to move him
    closer to Merckx. Winning another classic would do it. That, or trying the
    hour record. :-)

  17. Roger Zoul said:

    Doug Huffman wrote:
    :: First let's lay odds on him even trying. We'll know this long
    :: before the '05 TdF.

    I think he's already said he will continue to race...

    I was under the impression this was in the Discovery Channel
    sponsorship contract.

    Barry

  18. "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Doug Huffman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Race, yeah. I didn't hear TdF.

    Of course he is going to race in next years tour. He just signed a deal
    with Discovery and he indicated he will ride the TdF for another year.

    On The Lance Chronicles, the Discovery spokesman said, holding up a
    Discovery jersey, "And here's what Lance will be wearing for win #7".


    Lance

    Quoted message said:

    said "Let's get through #6 first"

    Pete

    Correct. He does need to get through this tour first and then he will ride
    next year as well. He is too young to retire from this already.

    Curt

  19. Quoted message said:

    Bonehenge [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I think he's already said he will continue to race...

    I was under the impression this was in the Discovery Channel
    sponsorship contract.

    I'm no lawyer, contract or otherwise, but I'd be amazed if any multimillion
    dollar *team* sponsorship contract had anything like an ironclad "if this one
    guy doesn't race, we don't pay" clause. What fool would sign a contract with a
    clause like that? Besides, how could they possibly enforce it?

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

  20. (Hunrobe) said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bonehenge [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I think he's already said he will continue to race...

    I was under the impression this was in the Discovery Channel
    sponsorship contract.

    I'm no lawyer, contract or otherwise, but I'd be amazed if any multimillion
    dollar *team* sponsorship contract had anything like an ironclad "if this one
    guy doesn't race, we don't pay" clause. What fool would sign a contract with a
    clause like that? Besides, how could they possibly enforce it?

    The same way race car sponsors collect monetary reparations if a team
    doesn't meet stated criteria? Many of those sponsorships are based
    on who's driving the car, usually with advertising and public
    appearances designed around the star.

    It's as easily enforced as any other clause. Break it and the sponsor
    doesn't pay, or the sponsor pays less. Who says a sponsorship
    contract requires 100% payment up front?

    Barry

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