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Lance for number 7?

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  1. Actually34 wrote:
    :: The question isn't whether LA CAN win #7; the question is whether he
    :: wants to.

    Based on how he's going after win #6, I see no reason to believe that he
    would not want #7. The man loves what he does (so do I, too!).

  2. Quoted message said:

    Bonehenge [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:


    The same way race car sponsors collect monetary reparations if a team
    doesn't meet stated criteria? Many of those sponsorships are based
    on who's driving the car, usually with advertising and public
    appearances designed around the star.

    It's as easily enforced as any other clause. Break it and the sponsor
    doesn't pay, or the sponsor pays less. Who says a sponsorship
    contract requires 100% payment up front?

    Barry

    As I said, I'm no lawyer but I think you are missing a critical difference
    between race car sponsorship deals and cycling team sponsorship deals. To use
    the USPS team as an example, there are at least 11 other people on that team
    with individual employment contracts with Tailwind Sports (the team owners)
    *and the sponsor* so what happens to those contractual obligations if Lance
    quits or is injured and can't ride? How many people does a typical USAC,
    NASCAR, or Formula sponsor have under contract?
    Depending on how the sponsorship contract is written USPS could refuse to pay
    certain bonuses and bonuses are what you are really referring to when you talk
    about race car contracts and stipulations. The mechanics and other support
    staff still get paid even if the driver loses or quits.
    I may be mistaken but I really doubt there's any "Lance *must* ride" clause in
    the new sponsorship deal. As for enforcement, let me ask this...
    If there *were* such a clause and Lance showed up to race and then abandons in
    the first kilometer of every race what do you envision Discovery Enterprises
    doing about it, besides not paying bonuses that is? That's what I mean by
    "unenforceable".

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

  3. maxo said:

    Our theory at the LBS is that the only likely "accident" that would cost
    him the race is an overzealous and tipply American fan that might knock
    him of the bike. LOL.

    "Go Dude!!!"

    thud

    "oops..."

    Been thinking about this, and how the peleton does odd things
    sometimes (e.g. a few years back, the day after Casartelli died on a
    hill they rode in formation and no one contested anything...all
    riders, "same time"😉.
    We're at what, T-2 days? If the longhorn guy or the devil or the
    double birdie orangey or anyone else did something to knock Our Hero
    off his pedals, my gut feeling is that his teammates, and the peleton,
    would hoist him back in the saddle, clip him in, and drag him to the
    finish where his front wheel would be thrust in front just enough to
    win it.
    I mean, would you want your name as the winner with that big fat
    honkin' asterisk by it?
    Yeah, watch out for that Cubbie guy.
    JMHO
    --Karen M.

  4. Roger Zoul said:

    Actually34 wrote:
    :: The question isn't whether LA CAN win #7; the question is whether he
    :: wants to.

    Based on how he's going after win #6, I see no reason to believe that he
    would not want #7. The man loves what he does (so do I, too!).


    The reality is #6 ain't over yet. The real world is full of surprises.
    How can you plan win #7 so comfortably when he may crash or get busted
    for drugging, or just bonk?

    I expect Lance to win, but it ain't over til it's over.
    Just my point of view.
    Bernie

  5. Bernie wrote:
    || Roger Zoul wrote:
    ||
    ||| Actually34 wrote:
    ||||| The question isn't whether LA CAN win #7; the question is whether
    ||||| he wants to.
    |||
    ||| Based on how he's going after win #6, I see no reason to believe
    ||| that he would not want #7. The man loves what he does (so do I,
    ||| too!).
    |||
    |||
    || The reality is #6 ain't over yet. The real world is full of
    || surprises. How can you plan win #7 so comfortably when he may crash
    || or get busted for drugging, or just bonk?
    ||

    You don't plan on it....you bet on it.

    ||
    || I expect Lance to win, but it ain't over til it's over.

    That's obvious.

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