Kryptonite Locks safe?

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Not to be rude, but please consider that you may be
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science degrees before you start *sounding* smart. 😉

Not to be rude, but could you learn how to quote?

See up there, at the very top? That's called an
"attribution." That way, folks might know exact to whom I
am responding. You know, those folks who might not be
using a threaded newsreader. And quoting some of the
material to which you are responding also helps with
context.

This newsgroup thingy is all about communication, blah,
blah, blah...
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Jonesy "curmudgeon"

Jonesy,

Not to be rude, but could you look at the rest of the posts
before you say the same exact thing?

Thanks a bunch.

-mr

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Not to be rude, but please consider that you may be
talking to others with science degrees before you
start *sounding* smart. 😉

You mean smart enough to quote at least SOMETHING so the
reader knows

WTF

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you're talking about?

Bill "oh, wait...you did say science degree" S.

Give him a break ... he was smart enough not to nail me
for my "40 degrees."

Grad degree in Chemistry of Chem Eng would be my guess.

First, because he called me on the carpet for quoting
MSDS's, he's a chemist of some flavor. Second, he said
"science degrees" ... that smacks of grad student.

Personally, my graduate work was in spatial distribution
theory, and while I passed Pchem a couple of decades ago,
my reliance on MSDS's comes from marine welding classes
and salvage operations (which I was involved in after grad
school).

Sadly, I was waiting for the "science minded" to nail me
of my favorite working temp.

R

I WAS wondering how one works with (and maintains) metal
whilst at -40C. That would be impressive. I didn't say
anything, because - as I said - I don't know a thing about
welding (unless you can translate an above-average knowledge
of how-to with a soldering iron 🙂 ).

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"Jonesy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Not to be rude, but please consider that you may be
talking to others

with

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science degrees before you start *sounding* smart. 😉

Not to be rude, but could you learn how to quote?

See up there, at the very top? That's called an
"attribution." That way, folks might know exact to whom
I am responding. You know, those folks who might not be
using a threaded newsreader. And quoting some of the
material to which you are responding also helps with
context.

This newsgroup thingy is all about communication, blah,
blah, blah...
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Thanks. That was constructive AND informative.

You're welcome. Everybody has a better time of it if folks
are kind enough to follow the conventions. TBH, I'm pretty
glad when somebody avoids top-posting. Proper quoting,
judicious trimming and proper attribution are all hallmarks
of the considerate poster, once they figure out the whole
top-posting/proper posting thingy.

Then there are those damn WebTV folks...

[ducks]
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Jonesy

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Sadly, I was waiting for the "science minded" to nail me
of my favorite working temp.

R

I WAS wondering how one works with (and maintains) metal
whilst at -40C.

-40C? No, no I was saying -40F (lets see how long it takes
for that joke to settle in).

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That would be impressive.

Not really impressive .... cutting with Broco rods in 250
fsw, now that will put a smile on your face. Ultra-thermics
burn at 10,000F .... that'll light up the night.

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I didn't say anything, because - as I said - I don't know
a thing about welding (unless you can translate an above-
average knowledge of how-to with a soldering iron 🙂 ).

Funny thing ... cold is, by far, less of a problem than
contamination/water. You can get a perfectly good critical
weld with -40 degree air temps, but put the welder (person
and wet weld equipment) in 3C seawater and you will
(possibly) have welds with hydrogen micro-presence and
porosity problems. So if the project isn't too big to bring
on deck, but is too big to get below deck ... one might find
themself welding topside in -40.

So what is your grad degree in?

R

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Funny thing ... cold is, by far, less of a problem than
contamination/water. You can get a perfectly good critical
weld with -40 degree air temps, but put the welder (person
and wet weld equipment) in 3C seawater and you will
(possibly) have welds with hydrogen micro-presence and
porosity problems. So if the project isn't too big to
bring on deck, but is too big to get below deck ... one
might find themself welding topside in -40.

R

Met a dude a few years back that was an underwater welder.
Worked on oil rigs... big, big bucks.

--
Slacker

Kamus of Kadizhar said:

So, take a compressed gas, release it with metal in the
way, metal freezes. Freeze metal enough, it becomes
brittle. Tap it with a hammer, it shatters.

Let's not forget that Iron is frozen all the way up to
1500 C.....

;-)

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"Jonesy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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See up there, at the very top? That's called an
"attribution." That way, folks might know exact to whom
I am responding. You know, those folks who might not be
using a threaded newsreader. And quoting some of the
material to which you are responding also helps with
context.

This newsgroup thingy is all about communication, blah,
blah, blah...

Jonesy,

Not to be rude, but could you look at the rest of the
posts before you say the same exact thing?

Thanks a bunch.

You obviously aren't paying attention very well, so I'll
help you out.

See what I'm using to post? That particular service has a
stated delay of 3 to 9 hours. So, at best, I see posts
written three hours before my post. Anything inside that
window? I'm not going to see
it. AFAIK, those posts didn't even exist before I posted
mine. So, before you go and be an ass, you may want to
educate yourself, M'kay?
--
Jonesy "have waited over 24 hours to see some posts - but
it's free, and web-based"

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 13:22:56 -0400, Kamus of

Kadizhar said:

This is getting waaay OT but you got me curious. I'm
definitely gonna try to research this.... Another way to
fritter away the time when it's raining....

The "apparently" straight scoop on the Freon thing:

Long ago, when Kryptonite locks first came out, the
shackles were overhardened, making them vulnerable to
Freon/dry ice and a hammer.

That has been addressed and the method no longer works.

--Kamus

[censored]. Again, show me someone here who has actually seen
this done, and show proof of it being a problem. This, as
has been pointed out for the last ten years, is a total
urban legend.