General fitness, health and nutrition · Public discussion

Kosher salami

Started by cathy · · Last activity · 54 posts · 1,440 views

This thread is locked and is currently read-only.

Thread navigation

Jump through the discussion

Go to the original post, the replies on this page, or the latest preserved contribution.

Thread details

What we know about this thread

Original section
General fitness, health and nutrition
Published
13 April 2005
Last activity
29 April 2005
Original author
cathy
Posts
54
Discussion status
Public discussion
Total views
1,440
Views / 30 days
0

The navigation and discussion metadata provide context. Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Showing posts 1–20 of 54
Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Text size
  1. When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew National
    kosher salami.

    When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there is a
    mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone know
    what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    texture to a kosher salami?

    Thanks,
    Cathy

  2. On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:41:24 GMT, cathy <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew National
    kosher salami.

    When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there is a
    mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone know
    what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    texture to a kosher salami?

    Thanks,
    Cathy

    The closest you will get to it in most markets is Hebrew National or
    Best's.

    HN is still made, though it belongs to ConAgra now & does not taste
    nearly as good as it used to. It has flavorings and hydrolyzed soy
    protein in it now.

    Boron

  3. "Boron Elgar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:41:24 GMT, cathy <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew National
    kosher salami.

    When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there is a
    mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone know
    what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    texture to a kosher salami?

    Thanks,
    Cathy

    The closest you will get to it in most markets is Hebrew National or
    Best's.

    HN is still made, though it belongs to ConAgra now & does not taste
    nearly as good as it used to. It has flavorings and hydrolyzed soy
    protein in it now.

    Boron

    Try Vienna Beef Salami out of Chicago.

  4. Boron Elgar said:

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:41:24 GMT, cathy <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew National
    kosher salami.

    When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there is a
    mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone know
    what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    texture to a kosher salami?

    Thanks,
    Cathy

    The closest you will get to it in most markets is Hebrew National or
    Best's.

    HN is still made, though it belongs to ConAgra now & does not taste
    nearly as good as it used to. It has flavorings and hydrolyzed soy
    protein in it now.

    Boron

    There are a couple other brands, Issac Gellis, Shofar.

    But none today are like the real kosher salami of yesteryear, back then
    kosher salami did not need refrigeration, it was a fermented salami,
    just hung from a hook at the deli... the older/aged ones dripped fat
    until they were pretty dry, those were what you got when you asked for
    "hard salami", and cost a few cents extra, well, they lost weight.

    You really can't compare today's kosher delis to those from even forty
    years ago... there is no comparison... today's kosher delis (every one
    of them with no exceptions whatsoever) serve phony baloney. I'll only
    believe you've ever eaten real kosher deli if you can tell me what's a
    "toot".

    Sheldon

  5. Boron Elgar said:

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:41:24 GMT, cathy <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew National
    kosher salami.

    When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there is a
    mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone know
    what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    texture to a kosher salami?

    Thanks,
    Cathy

    The closest you will get to it in most markets is Hebrew National or
    Best's.


    I guess I wasn't clear. I know what all the different brands of kosher
    salami are. What I meant was what kind of salami that =isn't= a kosher
    salami might come the closest in taste and texture to a kosher salami.
    Italian salami? Genoa salami? Summe sausage? Or one of the dozens of
    other varieties I see in the deli case?

    Cathy

  6. cathy said:
    Boron Elgar said:

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:41:24 GMT, cathy <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew National
    kosher salami.

    When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there is a
    mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone know
    what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    texture to a kosher salami?

    Thanks,
    Cathy

    The closest you will get to it in most markets is Hebrew National or
    Best's.


    I guess I wasn't clear. I know what all the different brands of


    kosher

    Quoted message said:

    salami are. What I meant was what kind of salami that =isn't= a


    kosher

    Quoted message said:

    salami might come the closest in taste and texture to a kosher


    salami.

    Quoted message said:

    Italian salami? Genoa salami? Summe sausage? Or one of the dozens of
    other varieties I see in the deli case?

    Cathy

    None.

  7. On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:12:02 GMT, cathy <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Boron Elgar said:

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:41:24 GMT, cathy <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew National
    kosher salami.

    When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there is a
    mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone know
    what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    texture to a kosher salami?

    Thanks,
    Cathy

    The closest you will get to it in most markets is Hebrew National or
    Best's.


    I guess I wasn't clear. I know what all the different brands of kosher
    salami are. What I meant was what kind of salami that =isn't= a kosher
    salami might come the closest in taste and texture to a kosher salami.
    Italian salami? Genoa salami? Summe sausage? Or one of the dozens of
    other varieties I see in the deli case?

    Cathy

    I cannot think of any.

    You might actually want to experiment a bit with varieties of
    kielbasa, if you can find a good Polish deli. Try one of the garlic
    kielbasas. It won't be exactly the same as a kosher salami, but it
    might remind you of one and it'll be damn good, nevertheless.

    Boron

  8. cathy said:

    When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew National
    kosher salami.

    I believe that is the fourth rule.

    Cam

  9. "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Boron Elgar said:

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:41:24 GMT, cathy <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew National
    kosher salami.

    When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there is a
    mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone know
    what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    texture to a kosher salami?

    Thanks,
    Cathy

    The closest you will get to it in most markets is Hebrew National or
    Best's.

    HN is still made, though it belongs to ConAgra now & does not taste
    nearly as good as it used to. It has flavorings and hydrolyzed soy
    protein in it now.

    Boron

    There are a couple other brands, Issac Gellis, Shofar.

    But none today are like the real kosher salami of yesteryear, back then
    kosher salami did not need refrigeration, it was a fermented salami,
    just hung from a hook at the deli... the older/aged ones dripped fat
    until they were pretty dry, those were what you got when you asked for
    "hard salami", and cost a few cents extra, well, they lost weight.

    You really can't compare today's kosher delis to those from even forty
    years ago... there is no comparison... today's kosher delis (every one
    of them with no exceptions whatsoever) serve phony baloney. I'll only
    believe you've ever eaten real kosher deli if you can tell me what's a
    "toot".

    Sheldon


    You can "hang" and dry Vienna's beef salami. Yes, it drips fat all over the
    countertop. I have been doing that since the 1970's. I grew up in a strict
    kosher household (and gave it up when I moved out) and can't tell you what a
    toot is. I called a Hasidic friend of mine in Great Neck, NY and he couldn't
    tell me either. What is a "toot?"

    Rand

  10. tuppy said:

    "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Boron Elgar said:

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:41:24 GMT, cathy


    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    wrote:

    >When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew


    National

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >kosher salami.
    >
    >When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there


    is a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone


    know

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    >texture to a kosher salami?
    >
    >Thanks,
    >Cathy

    The closest you will get to it in most markets is Hebrew National


    or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Best's.

    HN is still made, though it belongs to ConAgra now & does not


    taste

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    nearly as good as it used to. It has flavorings and hydrolyzed


    soy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    protein in it now.

    Boron

    There are a couple other brands, Issac Gellis, Shofar.

    But none today are like the real kosher salami of yesteryear, back


    then

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    kosher salami did not need refrigeration, it was a fermented


    salami,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    just hung from a hook at the deli... the older/aged ones dripped


    fat

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    until they were pretty dry, those were what you got when you asked


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "hard salami", and cost a few cents extra, well, they lost weight.

    You really can't compare today's kosher delis to those from even


    forty

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    years ago... there is no comparison... today's kosher delis (every


    one

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of them with no exceptions whatsoever) serve phony baloney. I'll


    only

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    believe you've ever eaten real kosher deli if you can tell me


    what's a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "toot".

    Sheldon


    You can "hang" and dry Vienna's beef salami. Yes, it drips fat all


    over the

    Quoted message said:

    countertop. I have been doing that since the 1970's. I grew up in a


    strict

    Quoted message said:

    kosher household (and gave it up when I moved out) and can't tell you


    what a

    Quoted message said:

    toot is. I called a Hasidic friend of mine in Great Neck, NY and he


    couldn't

    Quoted message said:

    tell me either. What is a "toot?"

    Hasidics wouldn't have a clue about kosher delis... they don't frequent
    them. And as to a "toot", I ain't giving it up... you either know or
    you don't... if you grew up in a kosher home and don't know you're
    probably fairly young.

    Vienna Beef products are not kosher.

    Not a very informative website: http://www.viennabeef.com/welcome1.htm

    Sheldon

  11. "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    tuppy said:

    "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Boron Elgar wrote:
    > On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:41:24 GMT, cathy


    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > wrote:
    >
    > >When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew


    National

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >kosher salami.
    > >
    > >When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there


    is a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone


    know

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    > >texture to a kosher salami?
    > >
    > >Thanks,
    > >Cathy
    >
    >
    > The closest you will get to it in most markets is Hebrew National


    or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Best's.
    >
    > HN is still made, though it belongs to ConAgra now & does not


    taste

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > nearly as good as it used to. It has flavorings and hydrolyzed


    soy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > protein in it now.
    >
    > Boron

    There are a couple other brands, Issac Gellis, Shofar.

    But none today are like the real kosher salami of yesteryear, back


    then

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    kosher salami did not need refrigeration, it was a fermented


    salami,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    just hung from a hook at the deli... the older/aged ones dripped


    fat

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    until they were pretty dry, those were what you got when you asked


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "hard salami", and cost a few cents extra, well, they lost weight.

    You really can't compare today's kosher delis to those from even


    forty

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    years ago... there is no comparison... today's kosher delis (every


    one

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of them with no exceptions whatsoever) serve phony baloney. I'll


    only

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    believe you've ever eaten real kosher deli if you can tell me


    what's a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "toot".

    Sheldon


    You can "hang" and dry Vienna's beef salami. Yes, it drips fat all


    over the

    Quoted message said:

    countertop. I have been doing that since the 1970's. I grew up in a


    strict

    Quoted message said:

    kosher household (and gave it up when I moved out) and can't tell you


    what a

    Quoted message said:

    toot is. I called a Hasidic friend of mine in Great Neck, NY and he


    couldn't

    Quoted message said:

    tell me either. What is a "toot?"

    Hasidics wouldn't have a clue about kosher delis... they don't frequent
    them. And as to a "toot", I ain't giving it up... you either know or
    you don't... if you grew up in a kosher home and don't know you're
    probably fairly young.

    Vienna Beef products are not kosher.

    Not a very informative website: http://www.viennabeef.com/welcome1.htm

    Sheldon

    I never said Vienna beef salami is kosher but their beef salami has no pork
    nor pork derived products.. With regard to Hasidic not having a clue about
    kosher delis, respectfully you don't know what you are talking about.
    Hasidic and other orthodox friends of mine and I have gone to kosher NY
    delis since probably about the time you were born. Yes, I am a young 53.

  12. Sheldon said:


    tuppy said:

    "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Boron Elgar wrote:
    > On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:41:24 GMT, cathy


    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > wrote:
    >
    > >When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew


    National

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >kosher salami.
    > >
    > >When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there


    is a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone


    know

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    > >texture to a kosher salami?
    > >
    > >Thanks,
    > >Cathy
    >
    >
    > The closest you will get to it in most markets is Hebrew National


    or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Best's.
    >
    > HN is still made, though it belongs to ConAgra now & does not


    taste

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > nearly as good as it used to. It has flavorings and hydrolyzed


    soy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > protein in it now.
    >
    > Boron

    There are a couple other brands, Issac Gellis, Shofar.

    But none today are like the real kosher salami of yesteryear, back


    then

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    kosher salami did not need refrigeration, it was a fermented


    salami,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    just hung from a hook at the deli... the older/aged ones dripped


    fat

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    until they were pretty dry, those were what you got when you asked


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "hard salami", and cost a few cents extra, well, they lost weight.

    You really can't compare today's kosher delis to those from even


    forty

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    years ago... there is no comparison... today's kosher delis (every


    one

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of them with no exceptions whatsoever) serve phony baloney. I'll


    only

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    believe you've ever eaten real kosher deli if you can tell me


    what's a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "toot".

    Sheldon


    You can "hang" and dry Vienna's beef salami. Yes, it drips fat all


    over the

    Quoted message said:

    countertop. I have been doing that since the 1970's. I grew up in a


    strict

    Quoted message said:

    kosher household (and gave it up when I moved out) and can't tell you


    what a

    Quoted message said:

    toot is. I called a Hasidic friend of mine in Great Neck, NY and he


    couldn't

    Quoted message said:

    tell me either. What is a "toot?"

    Hasidics wouldn't have a clue about kosher delis... they don't frequent
    them. And as to a "toot", I ain't giving it up... you either know or
    you don't... if you grew up in a kosher home and don't know you're
    probably fairly young.

    Vienna Beef products are not kosher.

    Not a very informative website: http://www.viennabeef.com/welcome1.htm

    I didn't grow up in a kosher home - my mother did and swore she'd
    never do it when she got married. But certain things stick with you,
    lile; both my parents drank their coffee black (to avoid mixing dairy
    and meat - you can't have cream in your coffee if your having brisket
    for dinner, in a kosher home). My mother rarely made ham, and bacon
    was not often found in our refrigerator. We stuck to kosher-style
    products, like HN salami and hot dogs because they were the flavors my
    parents were accustomed to. It's stuck with me, too, because the only
    hot dogs I'll eat are kosher style. The one time I ate an Oscar Mayer
    hot dog I took one bite and spit it out, and tossed the rest in the
    trash. It was one of the more revolting things I've been served. It
    was so foreign to what I expected a hot dog to taste like, I couldn't
    stand it.

    Cathy

  13. tuppy said:


    "Sheldon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Boron Elgar said:

    On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:41:24 GMT, cathy <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    >When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew National
    >kosher salami.
    >
    >When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there is a
    >mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone know
    >what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    >texture to a kosher salami?
    >
    >Thanks,
    >Cathy

    The closest you will get to it in most markets is Hebrew National or
    Best's.

    HN is still made, though it belongs to ConAgra now & does not taste
    nearly as good as it used to. It has flavorings and hydrolyzed soy
    protein in it now.

    Boron

    There are a couple other brands, Issac Gellis, Shofar.

    But none today are like the real kosher salami of yesteryear, back then
    kosher salami did not need refrigeration, it was a fermented salami,
    just hung from a hook at the deli... the older/aged ones dripped fat
    until they were pretty dry, those were what you got when you asked for
    "hard salami", and cost a few cents extra, well, they lost weight.

    You really can't compare today's kosher delis to those from even forty
    years ago... there is no comparison... today's kosher delis (every one
    of them with no exceptions whatsoever) serve phony baloney. I'll only
    believe you've ever eaten real kosher deli if you can tell me what's a
    "toot".

    Sheldon


    You can "hang" and dry Vienna's beef salami. Yes, it drips fat all over the
    countertop. I have been doing that since the 1970's. I grew up in a strict
    kosher household (and gave it up when I moved out) and can't tell you what a
    toot is. I called a Hasidic friend of mine in Great Neck, NY and he couldn't
    tell me either. What is a "toot?"

    Rand

    Taken from a German word for 'bag'. Means a twisted bit of paper to hold
    mustard, separate from the sandwich.
    Has nothing to do with eating 'real' kosher deli.

  14. "cathy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew National
    kosher salami.

    When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there is a
    mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone know
    what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    texture to a kosher salami?

    Thanks,
    Cathy

    Would not a kosher salami of any type taste the same as any salami of that
    same type? It may be kosher but that has little or nothing to do with it's
    taste or texture, non? I assume, also, that a HB salami would be of a
    generic "American" salami nature rather than a specific type of salami.

    Charliam

  15. Charles Gifford said:

    "cathy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew National
    kosher salami.

    When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there is a
    mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone know
    what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    texture to a kosher salami?

    Thanks,
    Cathy

    Would not a kosher salami of any type taste the same as any salami of


    that

    Quoted message said:

    same type? It may be kosher but that has little or nothing to do with


    it's

    Quoted message said:

    taste or texture, non? I assume, also, that a HB salami would be of a
    generic "American" salami nature rather than a specific type of


    salami.

    Quoted message said:


    Charliam

    Kosher salami is essentially of only one type, whereas each recipe
    varies, but so insignificantly as to be deemed negligible. There is
    also kosher bologna, kosher hot dogs, and kosher knockwurst, all of
    which vary only very slightly by brand. I know of no kosher salami
    that is like say genoa. And I know of no kosher kielbasa... those who
    keep kosher are not at all interested in provisions that emulate those
    containing pork, regardless they're kosher. And kosher is like
    pregnant, either is or ain't... no such thing as almost...

    Sheldon

  16. Quoted message said:

    Would not a kosher salami of any type taste the same as any
    salami of that same type? It may be kosher but that has little
    or nothing to do with it's taste or texture, non?

    Kosher beef is processed a bit differently -- it has nearly
    all the blood drained out of it, as opposed to about 60%.

    Incidentally, there are people who believe that Hebrew National
    ships somewhat better than average product to various customers
    in New York City.

    Steve

  17. In article <[email hidden]>,

    cathy said:

    When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew National
    kosher salami.

    When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there is a
    mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone know
    what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    texture to a kosher salami?

    Hebrew National salami of course! Its still made. Failing that, cooked
    salami is pretty close, but not quite as strong a garlic flavor.

  18. Charles Gifford said:

    "cathy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew National
    kosher salami.

    When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there is a
    mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone know
    what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    texture to a kosher salami?

    Thanks,
    Cathy

    Would not a kosher salami of any type taste the same as any salami of that
    same type? It may be kosher but that has little or nothing to do with it's
    taste or texture, non? I assume, also, that a HB salami would be of a
    generic "American" salami nature rather than a specific type of salami.

    Charliam

    A kosher salami would not have any pork, organ meats, nor milk products
    added. All of those are commonly added to salami -- they're not bad
    things, but they are not kosher. They all affect the taste and texture.

    Other than that, I'm not sure what makes kosher-style salami. I would
    expect a smoked garlicky all-beef summer sausage. (fermented and cooked
    salami) Probably seasoned with mustard seed, black pepper, and either
    coriander or nutmeg.

    Best regards,
    Bob

  19. "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Charles Gifford said:

    "cathy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew National
    kosher salami.

    When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there is a
    mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone know
    what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    texture to a kosher salami?

    Thanks,
    Cathy

    Would not a kosher salami of any type taste the same as any salami of


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    same type? It may be kosher but that has little or nothing to do with


    it's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    taste or texture, non? I assume, also, that a HB salami would be of a
    generic "American" salami nature rather than a specific type of salami.

    Charliam

    A kosher salami would not have any pork, organ meats, nor milk products
    added. All of those are commonly added to salami -- they're not bad
    things, but they are not kosher. They all affect the taste and texture.

    Other than that, I'm not sure what makes kosher-style salami. I would
    expect a smoked garlicky all-beef summer sausage. (fermented and cooked
    salami) Probably seasoned with mustard seed, black pepper, and either
    coriander or nutmeg.

    Best regards,
    Bob

    Regarding the laws of Kashruth, there are two components to making sure meat
    is "approved." First relates to the actual "law" from the Old Testament,
    particularly the books of Leviticus and Deuteronomy which precisely
    describes what meats (and for that matter what food stuffs in general) are
    allowed (and not allowed) to be consumed and under what circumstances (the
    slaughter). While this is the basis for preparing kosher meat, there are
    other later rabbinic sources which set up component #2, the certified and
    ordained witness that ensures all proper preparation is conducted. This is
    found in later writings of which the Talmud is the most renowned. Today,
    meat is not considered kosher unless both conditions are met, so for example
    explaining why Vienna Beef which meets component #1 isn't certified kosher
    because they fail to meet condition #2. For further information that won't
    burden you try:
    http://www.shalomvillage.on.ca/kosher.htm

  20. tuppy said:

    "zxcvbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Charles Gifford said:

    "cathy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    >When I was a kid the only salami we ever bought was Hebrew National
    >kosher salami.
    >
    >When you go to the deli counter in the market these days there is a
    >mind-boggling array of salamis <sp?> and sausages. Does anyone know
    >what type/style of salami/sausage would be closest in flavor and
    >texture to a kosher salami?
    >
    >Thanks,
    >Cathy

    Would not a kosher salami of any type taste the same as any salami of

    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    same type? It may be kosher but that has little or nothing to do with

    it's

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    taste or texture, non? I assume, also, that a HB salami would be of a
    generic "American" salami nature rather than a specific type of salami.

    Charliam

    A kosher salami would not have any pork, organ meats, nor milk products
    added. All of those are commonly added to salami -- they're not bad
    things, but they are not kosher. They all affect the taste and texture.

    Other than that, I'm not sure what makes kosher-style salami. I would
    expect a smoked garlicky all-beef summer sausage. (fermented and cooked
    salami) Probably seasoned with mustard seed, black pepper, and either
    coriander or nutmeg.

    Best regards,
    Bob

    Regarding the laws of Kashruth, there are two components to making sure meat
    is "approved." First relates to the actual "law" from the Old Testament,
    particularly the books of Leviticus and Deuteronomy which precisely
    describes what meats (and for that matter what food stuffs in general) are
    allowed (and not allowed) to be consumed and under what circumstances (the
    slaughter). While this is the basis for preparing kosher meat, there are
    other later rabbinic sources which set up component #2, the certified and
    ordained witness that ensures all proper preparation is conducted. This is
    found in later writings of which the Talmud is the most renowned. Today,
    meat is not considered kosher unless both conditions are met, so for example
    explaining why Vienna Beef which meets component #1 isn't certified kosher
    because they fail to meet condition #2. For further information that won't
    burden you try:
    http://www.shalomvillage.on.ca/kosher.htm

    That's why I said "kosher-style" rather than kosher. One could make a
    sausage using certified kosher meat but using all the wrong spices and
    it wouldn't be true-to-style.

    It would be like biting into a "kosher dill pickle" and having it be
    sweet/sour and loaded with cinnamon.

    Best regards,
    Bob

Active in the last 60 minutes

Active in this thread

0 users · 0 guests ·0 bots ·0 total

No signed-in users are active right now.

No known search crawlers active right now.