It is OK to post to ARBR!



"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Mr. Ed Dolan wrote:
>> "Jon Meinecke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > "stratrider" <[email protected]> wrote
>> >>
>> >> Al, you are absolutely correct. Sherman was the first to use ARBR as
>> >> a
>> >> soapbox for his left leaning political editorials. And yes, Ed was
>> >> the
>> >> first to challenge him!
>> >
>> > Neither was first with such posts... Since '98, I've seen a lot of
>> > posters come and go in ARBR. A lot of reasonable discussion
>> > took place even between people of widely differing opinions. And
>> > topical posts used to outnumber the non-topical. Imagine that.
>> >
>> > Jon Meinecke

>>
>> I suspect Jon is right about this as he has been on this group a lot
>> longer
>> than I have. But when I came on this group about 3 years ago I did not
>> see
>> any balance nor did I think there were any reasonable discussions taking
>> place. All I saw was Sherman's rants followed by a lot of quipsters.
>> Conservatives especially seemed to be tongue-tied and never said much to
>> counterbalance all the liberal blather....

>
> Eddie Boy,
>
> Read the Google alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent archives from 2000 and 2001
> and you will find plenty of right-wing posts, quips, etc. I expect you
> might actually have been able to get along with Gus Morrow.


2000 and 2001 were before my time. I did not even know what computers were
back then, let alone newsgroups.

An interesting phenomenon is that RBM has its usual share of liberal nut
cases, but it also has very many conservative types, thus insuring a balance
of political views. That is all I ever wanted for ARBR.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
"Jon Meinecke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
[...]
> Perhaps. The group dynamic shifted somewhat subtlety
> several times before that in my recollection. But what
> become a mean-spirited and abusive/vulgar norm, with
> negative topical content is quite different than the *generally*
> congenial group culture in the late previous millennia. ...


Congeniality is vastly overrated. It mostly consisted of greetings and the
most trivial small talk imaginable. It was only of interest to the few who
were so engaged.

I do not like newsgroups which are too clubby. However, ARBR is a small
group and it will always be a small group, but that does not mean we have to
be congenial and clubby. Oftentimes, the only proper response to what is
being said is to be mean-spirited and abusive/vulgar. A newsgroup without a
curmudgeon or two is worthless.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> stratrider aka Jim Reilly wrote:
>> Al K wrote:
>> > Hi Jim,
>> > Ed D clearly has contributed to diverting arbr from cycling. But Tom
>> > S,
>> > with his political views expressed on arbr, initiated politics on arbr.
>> > Ed
>> > challenged Tom's political views, and arbr got diverted. This used to
>> > be a
>> > nice recumbent cycling news group, not a political vent.

>>
>> Al, you are absolutely correct. Sherman was the first to use ARBR as a
>> soapbox for his left leaning political editorials. And yes, Ed was the
>> first to challenge him!

>
> I see Jim Reilly of Reading, PA can not get his chronology correct
> either. DAGS - it will prove that I did not initiate the off-topic
> political discussions on this group.
>
> I will be generous and assume for the time being that Mr. Reilly has
> merely committed an error, and not libel.


I am sure what Jim meant is that you preceded me and that I succeeded you.
In that he is most certainly 100% correct. Anything before my time on ARBR
is ancient history and is of no interest to anyone, least of all me.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Mr. Ed Dolan wrote:
>> "JimmyMac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...

[...]

>> > What everyone has noticed is how ARBR went to hell when your sorry ass
>> > showed up showed up. I suspect that Tom Sherman left because of you.

>>
>> Sherman would never leave on account of me. He had too much pride for
>> that,
>> unlike you....

>
> I will assume that Ed Dolan had nothing to do with the difficulty in an
> order for VDSL modems not being fulfilled.


Why are you still moving around the country like a gypsy. It is time for you
to settle down. The Chicago area should suit you I would suspect.

> Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain


Cheddar, having to do with cheese - therefore back to Wisconsin?

> Post Free or Die!


Well, yes, but can you imagine a moderator on a website putting up with the
likes of you and me. You would last longer than I would, but not by much.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:

> I see Jim Reilly of Reading, PA can not get his chronology correct
> either. DAGS - it will prove that I did not initiate the off-topic
> political discussions on this group.
>
> I will be generous and assume for the time being that Mr. Reilly has
> merely committed an error, and not libel.


Save your generousity for your favorite charity as I have asked for
none of it. As for my error in chronology, I will accept and take
responsibility for that.

Jim Reilly (still in Reading, PA)
 
"JimmyMac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "JimmyMac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> >
>> > Edward Dolan wrote:

>> [...]
>> >> Yes, I am just so Great! I am like a God here on ARBR. l am not too
>> >> merciful but ever just. I do not suffer fools like Jimbo lightly who
>> >> are
>> >> tend to be longwinded bores, but I will allow them some leeway. I do
>> >> note
>> >> that he is not as longwinded as he used to be so I think he is
>> >> learning
>> >> something under my instruction.
>> >
>> > Errant assumption. One cannot learn from an inferior. The only thing
>> > I've learned is not to waste too much time on someone so unworthy. I
>> > don't take instruction from fools and you certainly qualify as a fool.

>>
>> Nope, Jimbo is no longer longwinded like he used to be with his every
>> post.
>> He is also using more down to earth language eschewing all the former
>> highfaluting verbiage. So I do take credit for this progress in his
>> affairs.
>> I am a better teacher than I know!
>> [...]

>
> Dunderhead Dolan stubbornly adheres to errant assumptions. One cannot
> take credit for someon elses progress not that I agree with the
> assertion that I have made what Ed Dolan considers progress, not that I
> could give two ***** about his opinion in this regard. I have learned
> little from Conan the Librarian, but I have learned those who have
> engaged Ed Dolan in cyber skirmishes should give the man his due. He
> possesses a unique, uncanny ability to galvanize the ARBR membership in
> steadfast opposition to himself. Ed deliberately crafts a post to
> instigate, infuriate and elicit a response. That's what TROLLs do and
> Ed does it better than most.


It takes intelligence to know what to say and how to say it as well as to
know what not to say and how not to say it. I write to be read, don't you?
What any of this has to do with trolling escapes me.

I am mostly off-topic, although when I am discussing the newsgroup itself I
do not consider that off-topic, but rather a necessary housekeeping chore.
It is not necessary that we stay on the topic of recumbents all the time.
Others on this group enjoy off-topic subjects and the interplay of
personalities. The one thing a newsgroup must avoid at all costs is boredom.
That alone has killed more newsgroups than everything else put together.

Of the multitude of Ed Dolan posts, the
> one that is destined to distinguish itself from all the rest and being
> the most well received by the readership will be Ed Dolan's obituary.


My obit is for family and friends. It will have nothing to do with Usenet
and ARBR. My passing will be as unremarked as has been my life.

> As for no longer being longwinded and eschewing former highfaluting
> verbiage, allow me to prove you wrong again Ed...


I did not read past this point since you periodically revert to juvenility
unworthy of your age and I am embarrassed for you. I assure you, no one else
read it either. You need to adhere closely to all my instructions for you.
When you depart from them, you go astray and make a fool of yourself.

[major snip]

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
Jon Meinecke wrote:
> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Welcome back, JSTS.
>
> > Jon Meinecke wrote:
> >> Neither was first with such posts...

> >
> > Someone finally gets it right.

>
> Better than a stopped clock, I hope, more than twice
> a day correct. %^)
>
> >> Since '98, I've seen a lot of
> >> posters come and go in ARBR

> >
> > The real rot started [after 2000]

>
> Perhaps. The group dynamic shifted somewhat subtlety
> several times before that in my recollection. But what
> become a mean-spirited and abusive/vulgar norm, with
> negative topical content is quite different than the *generally*
> congenial group culture in the late previous millennia.....


I happen to remember a time when the big controversies on
alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent were issues such as whether Falmouth
Recumbent Bicycles treated Brian "Tailwind from Hell" Clark properly
[1], Martin Krieg cross-posting his NGB and recumbent evangelism to
every bicycle related group [2], and if BikeE rear wheels were really
as bad as Bob Cardone [3] claimed.

[1]
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/browse_frm/thread/8041e598bd3d9295/c61108244362b207?lnk=gst&q=tailwind+hell&rnum=1#c61108244362b207>.
[2] A particular annoyance to Cletus Lee. [4]
[3]
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/c1c9fe5dc8ffe6c0?dmode=source>.
[4]
<http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/msg/d4058b92e4e37c57?dmode=source>.
--
Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain
Post Free or Die!
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> ....
> My obit is for family and friends. It will have nothing to do with Usenet
> and ARBR. My passing will be as unremarked as has been my life.....


Nonsense. The reaction will be similar to that of the starving knights
in the frozen land of Nador when they were forced to eat Brave Sir
Robin's minstrels.

--
Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain
Post Free or Die!
 
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jon Meinecke wrote:
>> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>> Welcome back, JSTS.
>>
>> > Jon Meinecke wrote:
>> >> Neither was first with such posts...
>> >
>> > Someone finally gets it right.

>>
>> Better than a stopped clock, I hope, more than twice
>> a day correct. %^)
>>
>> >> Since '98, I've seen a lot of
>> >> posters come and go in ARBR
>> >
>> > The real rot started [after 2000]

>>
>> Perhaps. The group dynamic shifted somewhat subtlety
>> several times before that in my recollection. But what
>> become a mean-spirited and abusive/vulgar norm, with
>> negative topical content is quite different than the *generally*
>> congenial group culture in the late previous millennia.....

>
> I happen to remember a time when the big controversies on
> alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent were issues such as whether Falmouth
> Recumbent Bicycles treated Brian "Tailwind from Hell" Clark properly
> [1], Martin Krieg cross-posting his NGB and recumbent evangelism to
> every bicycle related group [2], and if BikeE rear wheels were really
> as bad as Bob Cardone [3] claimed.

[...]

Yea, the group really only got on track when Ed Dolan the Great appeared and
saved everyone from themselves. I do not discuss trivia and I will only
tolerate a certain amount of it from others. Sooner or later, you will have
to elevate yourselves to my olympian level. After all, we do not want to be
like all those other negligible newsgroups out there in Usenet-land.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> "JimmyMac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> >
> >> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> [...]
> >> >> Yes, I am just so Great! I am like a God here on ARBR. l am not too
> >> >> merciful but ever just. I do not suffer fools like Jimbo lightly who
> >> >> are
> >> >> tend to be longwinded bores, but I will allow them some leeway. I do
> >> >> note
> >> >> that he is not as longwinded as he used to be so I think he is
> >> >> learning
> >> >> something under my instruction.
> >> >
> >> > Errant assumption. One cannot learn from an inferior. The only thing
> >> > I've learned is not to waste too much time on someone so unworthy. I
> >> > don't take instruction from fools and you certainly qualify as a fool.
> >>
> >> Nope, Jimbo is no longer longwinded like he used to be with his every
> >> post.
> >> He is also using more down to earth language eschewing all the former
> >> highfaluting verbiage. So I do take credit for this progress in his
> >> affairs.
> >> I am a better teacher than I know!
> >> [...]

> >
> > Dunderhead Dolan stubbornly adheres to errant assumptions. One cannot
> > take credit for someon elses progress not that I agree with the
> > assertion that I have made what Ed Dolan considers progress, not that I
> > could give two ***** about his opinion in this regard. I have learned
> > little from Conan the Librarian, but I have learned those who have
> > engaged Ed Dolan in cyber skirmishes should give the man his due. He
> > possesses a unique, uncanny ability to galvanize the ARBR membership in
> > steadfast opposition to himself. Ed deliberately crafts a post to
> > instigate, infuriate and elicit a response. That's what TROLLs do and
> > Ed does it better than most.

>
> It takes intelligence to know what to say and how to say it as well as to
> know what not to say and how not to say it. I write to be read, don't you?
> What any of this has to do with trolling escapes me.


"Know what not to say and how not to say it??? Care to rephrase that
in such a way that it makes some sense? Much escapes your poor powers
of perception. It is about time you fianlly made the frank admission.

> I am mostly off-topic, although when I am discussing the newsgroup itself I
> do not consider that off-topic, but rather a necessary housekeeping chore.
> It is not necessary that we stay on the topic of recumbents all the time.
> Others on this group enjoy off-topic subjects and the interplay of
> personalities. The one thing a newsgroup must avoid at all costs is boredom.
> That alone has killed more newsgroups than everything else put together.


Nonsensical cut and paste boiler plate, said and read countless times
before.

> Of the multitude of Ed Dolan posts, the
> > one that is destined to distinguish itself from all the rest and being
> > the most well received by the readership will be Ed Dolan's obituary.

>
> My obit is for family and friends. It will have nothing to do with Usenet
> and ARBR. My passing will be as unremarked as has been my life.


Friends??? You actually have those???. Now this is the first new and
refreshing information that you have written in ages. As concerns your
obit ... fear not as there are many here at ARBR who will celebrate
your passing.

> > As for no longer being longwinded and eschewing former highfaluting
> > verbiage, allow me to prove you wrong again Ed...

>
> I did not read past this point since you periodically revert to juvenility
> unworthy of your age and I am embarrassed for you. I assure you, no one else
> read it either. You need to adhere closely to all my instructions for you.
> When you depart from them, you go astray and make a fool of yourself.


Well Roger responded, so he read it and I suggest that if you had, you
would have been equally overwhelmed. You need to understand that I
don't value your instruction and your opinion matters not. You'll not
find me adhering to any of your worthless suggestions. They are wasted
on me. I don't take instructions from inferiors and you certainly
qualify.

Jim McNamara

> [major snip]
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> "JimmyMac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >> >
> >> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> [...]
> >> >> Yes, I am just so Great! I am like a God here on ARBR. l am not too
> >> >> merciful but ever just. I do not suffer fools like Jimbo lightly who
> >> >> are
> >> >> tend to be longwinded bores, but I will allow them some leeway. I do
> >> >> note
> >> >> that he is not as longwinded as he used to be so I think he is
> >> >> learning
> >> >> something under my instruction.
> >> >
> >> > Errant assumption. One cannot learn from an inferior. The only thing
> >> > I've learned is not to waste too much time on someone so unworthy. I
> >> > don't take instruction from fools and you certainly qualify as a fool.
> >>
> >> Nope, Jimbo is no longer longwinded like he used to be with his every
> >> post.
> >> He is also using more down to earth language eschewing all the former
> >> highfaluting verbiage. So I do take credit for this progress in his
> >> affairs.
> >> I am a better teacher than I know!
> >> [...]

> >
> > Dunderhead Dolan stubbornly adheres to errant assumptions. One cannot
> > take credit for someon elses progress not that I agree with the
> > assertion that I have made what Ed Dolan considers progress, not that I
> > could give two ***** about his opinion in this regard. I have learned
> > little from Conan the Librarian, but I have learned those who have
> > engaged Ed Dolan in cyber skirmishes should give the man his due. He
> > possesses a unique, uncanny ability to galvanize the ARBR membership in
> > steadfast opposition to himself. Ed deliberately crafts a post to
> > instigate, infuriate and elicit a response. That's what TROLLs do and
> > Ed does it better than most.

>
> It takes intelligence to know what to say and how to say it as well as to
> know what not to say and how not to say it. I write to be read, don't you?
> What any of this has to do with trolling escapes me.


"Know what not to say and how not to say it??? Care to rephrase that
in such a way that it makes some sense? Much escapes your poor powers
of perception. It is about time you fianlly made the frank admission.

> I am mostly off-topic, although when I am discussing the newsgroup itself I
> do not consider that off-topic, but rather a necessary housekeeping chore.
> It is not necessary that we stay on the topic of recumbents all the time.
> Others on this group enjoy off-topic subjects and the interplay of
> personalities. The one thing a newsgroup must avoid at all costs is boredom.
> That alone has killed more newsgroups than everything else put together.


Nonsensical cut and paste boiler plate, said and read countless times
before.

> Of the multitude of Ed Dolan posts, the
> > one that is destined to distinguish itself from all the rest and being
> > the most well received by the readership will be Ed Dolan's obituary.

>
> My obit is for family and friends. It will have nothing to do with Usenet
> and ARBR. My passing will be as unremarked as has been my life.


Friends??? You actually have those???. Now this is the first new and
refreshing information that you have written in ages. As concerns your
obit ... fear not as there are many here at ARBR who will celebrate
your passing.

> > As for no longer being longwinded and eschewing former highfaluting
> > verbiage, allow me to prove you wrong again Ed...

>
> I did not read past this point since you periodically revert to juvenility
> unworthy of your age and I am embarrassed for you. I assure you, no one else
> read it either. You need to adhere closely to all my instructions for you.
> When you depart from them, you go astray and make a fool of yourself.


Well Roger responded, so he read it and I suggest that if you had, you
would have been equally overwhelmed. You need to understand that I
don't value your instruction and your opinion matters not. You'll not
find me adhering to any of your worthless suggestions. They are wasted
on me. I don't take instructions from inferiors and you certainly
qualify.

Jim McNamara

> [major snip]
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
"JimmyMac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Edward Dolan wrote:

[...]
>> > As for no longer being longwinded and eschewing former highfaluting
>> > verbiage, allow me to prove you wrong again Ed...

>>
>> I did not read past this point since you periodically revert to
>> juvenility
>> unworthy of your age and I am embarrassed for you. I assure you, no one
>> else
>> read it either. You need to adhere closely to all my instructions for
>> you.
>> When you depart from them, you go astray and make a fool of yourself.

>
> Well Roger responded, so he read it and I suggest that if you had, you
> would have been equally overwhelmed. You need to understand that I
> don't value your instruction and your opinion matters not. You'll not
> find me adhering to any of your worthless suggestions. They are wasted
> on me. I don't take instructions from inferiors and you certainly
> qualify.


I assure you that Roger did not read your post past the point where you
become ridiculous anymore than I did. His eyes glazed over as mine did. Why
do you continue to embarrass yourself? You did it with Ed Gin, you did it
with Tom Sherman and now you do it with me. You seem not to have a clue what
Usenet is all about.

Yes, I am pretty much a hermit but I am more clued in about Usenet than you
will ever be. You come across as nothing but a stalker and a leech. Frankly,
I am embarrassed for you because I KNOW that you are more intelligent than
that. Always use your own words to say what you want and never, I repeat
never, resort to a thesaurus or a dictionary of synonyms. That is strictly
for high school kids who are trying to impress their teachers.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote
> Jon Meinecke wrote:
>> > The real rot started [after 2000]

>> Perhaps.

>
> I happen to remember a time when the big controversies [...]
> if BikeE rear wheels were really as bad as Bob Cardone [3]
> claimed.


Bob's was, perhaps. Mine and the wheels of two other BikeEs
I have direct knowledge of have not had any problems. Neither
sample size is large enough to generalize. 1 in 3 I know of
(not mine) did have swingarm weld failure,-- replaced under
warranty.

You forgot the other big controversies, whether BikeE lied to
retailers and customers about their impending demise. And
whether BigHa was tainted by BikeE connections and
whether anyone who had anything good to say about BigHa
had ever paid retail price for one! %^)

Jon Meinecke
 
Jon Meinecke wrote:
> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote
> > Jon Meinecke wrote:
> >> > The real rot started [after 2000]
> >> Perhaps.

> >
> > I happen to remember a time when the big controversies [...]
> > if BikeE rear wheels were really as bad as Bob Cardone [3]
> > claimed.

>
> Bob's was, perhaps. Mine and the wheels of two other BikeEs
> I have direct knowledge of have not had any problems. Neither
> sample size is large enough to generalize. 1 in 3 I know of
> (not mine) did have swingarm weld failure,-- replaced under
> warranty.
>
> You forgot the other big controversies, whether BikeE lied to
> retailers and customers about their impending demise. And
> whether BigHa was tainted by BikeE connections and
> whether anyone who had anything good to say about BigHa
> had ever paid retail price for one! %^)


I remember those events, such as this post [1] by Chad Ash of BikeE and
the Lorenzo L. Love/Larry Varney BigHa value debate [2]. However, those
occurred in 2002 and 2004, while I was discussing the previous
millennium.

[1]
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/browse_frm/thread/1541652760b4616d/8b69e1b014d78888?lnk=gst&q=chad+ash&rnum=4#8b69e1b014d78888>.
[2]
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/browse_frm/thread/cfbab6917b68d1e2/bb8f2a13f7cbce55?lnk=gst&q=world+without+end&rnum=1#bb8f2a13f7cbce55>.

--
Tom Sherman - Behind the Cheddar Curtain
Post Free or Die!
 
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Jon Meinecke wrote:
>> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote
>> > Jon Meinecke wrote:
>> >> > The real rot started [after 2000]
>> >> Perhaps.
>> >
>> > I happen to remember a time when the big controversies [...]
>> > if BikeE rear wheels were really as bad as Bob Cardone [3]
>> > claimed.

>>
>> Bob's was, perhaps. Mine and the wheels of two other BikeEs
>> I have direct knowledge of have not had any problems. Neither
>> sample size is large enough to generalize. 1 in 3 I know of
>> (not mine) did have swingarm weld failure,-- replaced under
>> warranty.
>>
>> You forgot the other big controversies, whether BikeE lied to
>> retailers and customers about their impending demise. And
>> whether BigHa was tainted by BikeE connections and
>> whether anyone who had anything good to say about BigHa
>> had ever paid retail price for one! %^)

>
> I remember those events, such as this post [1] by Chad Ash of BikeE and
> the Lorenzo L. Love/Larry Varney BigHa value debate [2]. However, those
> occurred in 2002 and 2004, while I was discussing the previous
> millennium.

[...]

The Lorenzo L. Love/Larry Varney debate was one of the high points of this
newsgroup and one of the main reasons I am still here, hoping to come across
good **** like that once again before I die. Lorenzo was like a great
nonplused bull dog and Larry was like a pesky insect buzzing around
aimlessly. It was a chemistry made in Heaven!

I notice most of my debates sooner or later become quite mean and nasty and
probably not very pleasant to read. Why this should be so I do not know.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
> I notice most of my debates sooner or later become quite mean and nasty and
> probably not very pleasant to read. Why this should be so I do not know.


Perhaps it's because you often come across as haughty and arrogant. Or
maybe not. I'm sure you're a lovely person IRL.

... Tom
 
"... Tom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

[Edward Dolan wrote:]

>> I notice most of my debates sooner or later become quite mean and nasty
>> and
>> probably not very pleasant to read. Why this should be so I do not know.

>
> Perhaps it's because you often come across as haughty and arrogant. Or
> maybe not. I'm sure you're a lovely person IRL.
>
> ... Tom


Well, I think it is because I feel I am the only one on this group capable
of taking on really mean and nasty folks. That is because I do not give a
good g.d. about my name or much of anything else if truth be told. I will
shortly be departing this vale of woe and I am sick and tired of always
being the good guy. It never got me anywhere in life. Besides, it is just so
much more fun to be a kind of bad guy (but not really bad - as you correctly
surmised).

"Once I wasn't, Then I was, Now I ain't again."

- Epitaph found on tombstone in Ohio graveyard

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Edward Dolan wrote:

> [...]
> >> > As for no longer being longwinded and eschewing former highfaluting
> >> > verbiage, allow me to prove you wrong again Ed...
> >>
> >> I did not read past this point since you periodically revert to
> >> juvenility
> >> unworthy of your age and I am embarrassed for you. I assure you, no one
> >> else
> >> read it either. You need to adhere closely to all my instructions for
> >> you.
> >> When you depart from them, you go astray and make a fool of yourself.

> >
> > Well Roger responded, so he read it and I suggest that if you had, you
> > would have been equally overwhelmed. You need to understand that I
> > don't value your instruction and your opinion matters not. You'll not
> > find me adhering to any of your worthless suggestions. They are wasted
> > on me. I don't take instructions from inferiors and you certainly
> > qualify.

>
> I assure you that Roger did not read your post past the point where you
> become ridiculous anymore than I did.


Had you read his long reply you would know otherwise ... dunderhead.

> His eyes glazed over as mine did. Why
> do you continue to embarrass yourself? You did it with Ed Gin, you did it
> with Tom Sherman and now you do it with me. You seem not to have a clue what
> Usenet is all about.


Opinions stated as fact ... as usual.

> Yes, I am pretty much a hermit but I am more clued in about Usenet than you
> will ever be. You come across as nothing but a stalker and a leech.


Sticks and stones ... Quit your whining, already. You have only
yourself to blame for the "stalking" that you have fallen victim of
from your many adversaries. You intentionally go trolling for fights.
When you encounter a tenacious, formidable adversary, and find yourself
hopelessly embroiled in an embarrassing no-win cyber-skirmish, in
desperation, you move to disencumber yourself by seeking to discredit
and dismiss your adversary by labeling him or her as a stalker. This
thinly disguised ploy of yours has failed countless
times. If you really want to escape your self-inflicted dilemma, then
turn tail, crawl on out of here. Return to the rock that you slithered
out from under.

> Frankly,
> I am embarrassed for you because I KNOW that you are more intelligent than
> that. Always use your own words to say what you want and never, I repeat
> never, resort to a thesaurus or a dictionary of synonyms.


You opinions matter not. What dont' you understand about that simple
concept??? Lecture someone who cares.

> That is strictly for high school kids who are trying to impress their teachers.


Wisdom form Conan the Librarian, keeper of the dictionary and
thesaurus. Get some new material brain dead. You 're boring me ...
YAWN!!!

Jim McNamara


> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
"JimmyMac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Edward Dolan wrote:

[...]
>> Frankly,
>> I am embarrassed for you because I KNOW that you are more intelligent
>> than
>> that. Always use your own words to say what you want and never, I repeat
>> never, resort to a thesaurus or a dictionary of synonyms.

>
> You opinions matter not. What dont' you understand about that simple
> concept??? Lecture someone who cares.
>
>> That is strictly for high school kids who are trying to impress their
>> teachers.

>
> Wisdom form Conan the Librarian, keeper of the dictionary and
> thesaurus. Get some new material brain dead. You 're boring me ...
> YAWN!!!


Jimbo strikes me as a high school kid who is permanently stuck at that age.
He loves to read his own writing and does not care to connect with anyone.
Word play is not the same thing as communicating.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
 
Edward Dolan wrote:

> Jimbo strikes me as a high school kid who is permanently stuck at that age.
> He loves to read his own writing and does not care to connect with anyone.
> Word play is not the same thing as communicating.


Once again ... opinoin stated as fact from someone whom I have
repeatedly told that his opinions don't mean ****!!!

Ed is an admitted hermit who has indicated that he has no use for his
fellow man except for the aritfacts he produces and he has the gall to
lecture me about connecting with others. Get real ... Ed. Have you
forgotten your own words regarding how you really really feel. Allow
me to remind you...

"I frankly do not have the slightest idea what newsgroups are all
about."

"Usenet is strictly for idiots, assholes and jerks - positively no
exceptions! When I am on Usenet I try to be the biggest idiot, asshole
and jerk of them all. I set the standard for one and all. I believe I
can state with absolute assurance that I am the Greatest Idiot, the
Greatest Asshole and the Greatest Jerk that Usenet has ever known in
its' long and dishonored history. For Christ's sakes, I prove it every
time I post. Can't any of you poor bastards read?"

Readers, does this sound like someone who should be lecturing anyone
about word play, communication or connecting with others???

Jim McNamara