Iron Chef

Steve Ritter said:

I'm not confused at all. All I know is that I'm not in
shape to be gay🙂

Gays come in different shapes, just like straight people ;-)

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Dog3 said:

I've been there and done it. I was married to a woman for
3 years right out of college. I will not tell you what
happened, or the aftermath but she hates me thoroughly to
this day and that was 27 years ago.

Even if I did become gay, I would divorce my wife before
having any non-platonic relationships. I like to learn from
other peoples' mistakes (such as my father).

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Dog3 said:

Dinner tonight was grilled burgers, fries and grilled
veggies. A real yawner but it was good. I've got a big pan
of brownies cooling off right now. Why don't you pop over
for dessert?

I had some microwaved (reheated) beef roast as an early
dinner, and sausage as a later dinner (two small meals
instead of one big one).

Oh no, I ate sausage, that must make me gay like your
brownies :-) Or maybe if I did go to your house and partake
of your brownies I would become "afflicted." Some people
have such simple minds I wonder how they remember to
breath. Is there room for anything but hatred in Crooks
Bolson's head?

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Steve Ritter said:

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I am not gay but I do speak up on their behalf and
support their equal rights.

Geez John. That sounds, well, you know. Gay 🙂

Are you calling me gay??? I might have to stop caring ;-)

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Crooks Bolson said:

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I've got a big pan of brownies cooling off right now. Why
don't you pop over for dessert?

Brownies... figures.

Are you scared yet?

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In article <[email hidden]>,
Dog3 <dognospam@adjfkdla;not> wrote: (snip)

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John, <Michael looking back and forth to make sure no
one else is
listening> nestled in the middle of my array of expensive
listening> colognes, after
shaves, deodorants and soaps is a bottle of Old Spice
aftershave and cologne. I love the stuff. Especially on
Sundays. It reminds me of my grandfather.

Michael

You'd be surprised, I think, to know how many women like Old
Spice on their fellas, too. For about the same reason. :-)
--
-Barb, <www.jamlady.eboard.com> updated 3-29-04.

Steve Ritter <[email hidden]> seeing her/his name in
stars wrote :"]news:[email hidden]:

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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:17:10 -0500, John Gaughan
<[email hidden]> Interjected.. :

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Dog3 said:

Bending over and taking a deep breath "smells" gay?
That's news to me and I've been gay my entire life. You
have some insider secrets the rest of us don't know
about?

Maybe he is just confused. In my experience, gays smell
like fine cologne that I do not have the good taste to
pick out. I always get the "ode de toilette" or some such
junk because I do not know any better.

I'm not confused at all. All I know is that I'm not in
shape to be gay🙂

Steve

Buffering.... 69% ||||||||||||||||||||||

Hmmm... bend over... not in shape. Well duh, I finally get
it. You can't touch your toes with your fingertips 😉

Michael
--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

Crooks Bolson <[email hidden]> seeing her/his name in stars wrote
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Quoted message said:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 00:37:55 -0000, Dog3

dognospam@adjfkdla;not said:

I've got a big pan of brownies cooling off right now. Why
don't you pop over for dessert?

Brownies... figures.

Meaning?

--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

Crooks Bolson <[email hidden]> seeing her/his name in stars wrote
:"]news:[email hidden]:

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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 00:17:30 -0000, Dog3

dognospam@adjfkdla;not said:

John, <Michael looking back and forth to make sure no
one else is
listening> nestled in the middle of my array of expensive
listening> colognes,
after shaves, deodorants and soaps ...

What, no Bubble Bath Oils?

I usually shower. I don't care for bubble bath or bath oils.
What about you? I'll bet when you bather you are too afraid
to clean the crack of your ass. It might make you gay.

Michael
--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

Dog3 said:

Pan Ohco <[email hidden]> seeing her/his name in stars
wrote :"]news:[email hidden]:

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On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:44:13 -0000, Dog3

dognospam@adjfkdla;not said:

>>Besides, I think Stephanie March probably disagrees.
>
> Yeah - gay guys never try and cover up their
> afflictions.
>

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> Lemme guess - You gay?

I can't speak for Brian but I am gay. Never been in the
closet. I know of very few gay guys that try to cover up
their "afflictions" as you so ignorantly bleated. However
I do know several married with

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the wife and kiddies.

Michael

Michael isn't that a poor example. A gay guy who is
married to hide his "afflictions".

Pan Ohco

I was quoting the original poster. Yes, his use of it was
a very poor example. What is going on in your neck of the
woods these days? Any good food lately? I have been so
boring lately even my friends are crabbing at
me. Dinner tonight was grilled burgers, fries and grilled
veggies. A real yawner but it was good. I've got a
big pan of brownies cooling off right now. Why don't
you pop over for dessert?

Michael

I had grilled burgers and grilled veggies (asparagus)
also. In my case, it was because the power was out for
miles around.

---jkb

--
Lisa: "Do we have any food that wasn't brutally
slaughtered?" Homer: "Well, I think the veal died of
loneliness."

Hark! I heard Jeff Bienstadt <[email hidden]> say:

<big snip>

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I had grilled burgers and grilled veggies (asparagus)
also. In my case, it was because the power was out for
miles around.

That was quite the windstorm yesterday! I'm surprised our
power didn't go out, but the South Sound seems to have been
spared (for once)...

--
J.J. ~ mom, gamer, novice cook ~ ..fish heads, fish
heads, eat them up, yum!

Dog3 said:

orientation. I felt compelled to answer the post even
though the question was posted in your direction.

It was not intended as a slam at you.

Brian Rodenborn

J.J. Marie said:

Hark! I heard Jeff Bienstadt <[email hidden]> say:

<big snip>

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I had grilled burgers and grilled veggies (asparagus)
also. In my case, it was because the power was out for
miles around.

That was quite the windstorm yesterday! I'm surprised our
power didn't go out, but the South Sound seems to have
been spared (for once)...

Hey, you're back! Gonna stay awhile?

I didn't even notice the windstorm from my office (and I
look out on Lake Washington), but at home my power was still
out when I left at 7:15 this morning.

---jkb

--
"To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's
problems."
-- Homer Simpson

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Hark! I heard Jeff Bienstadt <[email hidden]> say:

<big snip>

Quoted message said:

I had grilled burgers and grilled veggies (asparagus)
also. In my case, it was because the power was out for
miles around.

That was quite the windstorm yesterday! I'm surprised our
power didn't go out, but the South Sound seems to have
been spared (for once)...

It was way windy here today. 45 mph winds. Some of my newly
sprouted ferns are taking a beating.

Michael
--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:49:03 -0000, Dog3 <dognospam@adjfkdla;not>

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I usually shower. I don't care for bubble bath or bath
oils. What about you? I'll bet when you bather you are
too afraid to clean the crack of your ass. It might
make you gay.

No, Gay is having other men poke around near your [censored].

lifestyle?

Hark! I heard Jeff Bienstadt <[email hidden]> say:

Quoted message said:

J.J. Marie said:

Hark! I heard Jeff Bienstadt <[email hidden]> say:

<big snip>

Quoted message said:

I had grilled burgers and grilled veggies (asparagus)
also. In my case, it was because the power was out for
miles around.

That was quite the windstorm yesterday! I'm surprised
our power didn't go out, but the South Sound seems to
have been spared (for once)...

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Hey, you're back! Gonna stay awhile?

<Grin> Oh, I'll in and out on occasion. I'm spending a lot
of time in alt.support.diet -- there are quite a few RFCers
in that group.

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I didn't even notice the windstorm from my office (and I
look out on Lake Washington), but at home my power was
still out when I left at 7:15 this morning.

I saw on one of the local news stations that Lake WA had
whitecaps! I'd have loved to see that...

--
J.J. ~ mom, gamer, novice cook ~ ..fish heads, fish
heads, eat them up, yum!

Crooks Bolson <[email hidden]> seeing her/his name in stars wrote
:"]news:[email hidden]:

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No, Gay is having other men poke around near your [censored].

You don't say! Imagine that, which it's obvious you do.

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lifestyle?

You looking for some acceptance?

Michael
--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 00:37:55 -0000, Dog3 <dognospam@adjfkdla;not>
wrote:

What is going on in your neck of the woods these days? Any
good

Quoted message said:

food lately? I have been so boring lately even my friends
are crabbing at
me. Dinner tonight was grilled burgers, fries and grilled
veggies. A real yawner but it was good. I've got a big
pan of brownies cooling off right now. Why don't you
pop over for dessert?

Michael

Not much cooking lately. I'm building a new house and have
been spending most of my time cleaning up after the
workmen. Hopefully I'll be in my new kitchen with in a
month. Pan Ohco

Rona Yuthasastrakosol said:

"No One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aNGdnaPlK-OViBHdRVn-
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Both shows run along ethnic lines. If the competition was
held in Japan, Sakai would have won. Both shows should
have a person on the panel of the same ethnic origins as
the chef to balance preferred tastes. I though

both

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did an excellent job and would not have been able to
pick one over the other. I'd eat both presentations with
great gusto.

From what I've seen Japanese don't appreciate the bold of
American cuisine and Americans don't appreciate the
subtly of the japanese cuisine. It was evident again in
the second one last night between Mario and the other

guy.

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It's taste that losing the battle for the Japanese dudes.
Too subtle for the all American panel's taste.

During the original Iron Chef (Japan), it was rumoured that
many if not most of the battles were "fixed." One in
particular that definitely was fixed was a special held in
Hong Kong. There were three consecutive battles and the
Iron Chef lost all *except* the Japanese one. Apparently
they could not find any Chinese chefs who were willing to
participate unless they knew they would win. (Sorry, I'm
sick and on heavy medication right now--I don't know if the
above made sense.)

I love Japanese food. Sushi is rice as God intended.

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Re: ethnic origins (though I would not have chosen those
words--it's more about nationality or country in which one
is raised than ethnic origins, as a second or third
generation ethnic Japanese in the US would have tastes
closer to other Americans than to Japanese in Japan) There
is a show in Japan called "Dotchi" where a panel watches
two chefs prepare similar foods, then vote on which they
want to eat. The food with the most votes is eaten by those
who voted for it while the losers watch. When a "Western"
dish is up against a Japanese (or Chinese) dish, the
Japanese (or Chinese) dish almost always wins, despite that
the Western dish (imo) looks much much tastier than the
other dish. For example, last week was tonkatsu (which has
Western origins) vs some kind of side pork braised in soy
sauce (and other things). I thought the tonkatsu looked
much, much tastier than the side pork (and I love side
pork) but the side pork won--5-2 vote. This week it's
inarizushi vs croissanwich. I think inarizushi is for the
most part boring and flavourless, but I bet it'll win.

rona

"Rona Yuthasastrakosol" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

"No One" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aNGdnaPlK-OViBHdRVn-
[email hidden]...

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Both shows run along ethnic lines. If the competition
was held in Japan, Sakai would have won. Both shows
should have a person on the panel of the same ethnic
origins as the chef to balance preferred tastes. I
though

both

Quoted message said:

did an excellent job and would not have been able to
pick one over the other. I'd eat both presentations with
great gusto.

From what I've seen Japanese don't appreciate the bold
of American cuisine and Americans don't appreciate the
subtly of the japanese cuisine. It was evident again in
the second one last night between Mario and the other

guy.

Quoted message said:

It's taste that losing the battle for the Japanese
dudes. Too subtle for the all American panel's taste.

During the original Iron Chef (Japan), it was rumoured
that many if not most of the battles were "fixed." One in
particular that definitely was fixed was a special held in
Hong Kong. There were three consecutive battles and the
Iron Chef lost all *except* the Japanese one. Apparently
they could not find any Chinese chefs who were willing to
participate unless they knew they would win. (Sorry, I'm
sick and on heavy medication right now--I don't know if
the above made sense.)

Re: ethnic origins (though I would not have chosen those
words--it's more about nationality or country in which one
is raised than ethnic origins, as a second or third
generation ethnic Japanese in the US would have tastes
closer to other Americans than to Japanese in Japan) There
is a show in Japan called "Dotchi" where a panel watches
two chefs prepare similar foods, then vote on which they
want to eat. The food with the most votes is eaten by
those who voted for it while the losers watch. When a
"Western" dish is up against a Japanese (or Chinese) dish,
the Japanese (or Chinese) dish almost always wins, despite
that the Western dish (imo) looks much much tastier than
the other dish. For example, last week was tonkatsu (which
has Western origins) vs some kind of side pork braised in
soy sauce (and other things). I thought the tonkatsu
looked much, much tastier than the side pork (and I love
side pork) but the side pork won--5-2 vote. This week it's
inarizushi vs croissanwich. I think inarizushi is for the
most part boring and flavourless, but I bet it'll win.

I think there's a lot to be said for cultural familiarity on
these shows. But to me, having seen lots of Iron Chef
episodes, the real key to winning is the order of tasting.
In the original Japanese show, the Iron Chef always goes
last. The judges taste the challengers dishes, then they
taste the Iron Chef's dishes, and then they write down their
rankings. I think this gives the Iron Chef a big advantage.

In the recent American version, the American chef went last.
And they won every time.

On the Japanese version, the best episode I ever saw was
the battle in France between Nakamura (Japanese IC) and the
head chef from Tour d'Argent (4 Michelin stars?). There
were two French judges and two Japanese judges. Nakamura
lost by 1 point.

We only saw it in the sub-titled version. I used to read the
subtitles to my kids when they came up too fast for them.
This episode contained the immortal line: "In France, salmon
is pronounced salmon."

Susan B.