Iron Chef

In article <[email hidden]>,

Roy Batty said:

I could do without the weirdo Alton Brown. He's basically
an actor. He said he was doing the job of Hattori. Yeah,
right. Hattori knows what the hell he's talking about. I
was embarassed for Alton when he said Sakai was going to
use rings for a custard. The ring molds had no bottom so
how was he supposed to put a liquid in them?

I honestly don't think there is one Food Network chef that
is on the level of the Iron Chefs. I have so much respect
for Sakai, Michiba, Morimoto, and Chen. Those guys are
studs. Last night's show seemed fishy (hehe). They had
Flay winning everything, including presentation. I thought
Sakai's presentations were much better so I was surprised
to see them give it to Flay. Can't say anything about the
taste, though.

I like Alton Brown. While I appreciate the art and skill
behind what Flay and Sakai made on the show, there wasn't a
single thing there that *I* would want to put the effort
into making--especially since I don't have a bunch of sous-
chefs running around for me. I have, on the other hand, made
things AB has made, and been very pleased at the results.
He's also shown me great tips for foods I already have made,
like I've also learned good tips for things I already knew
how to make. And making a smoker from a cardboard box?
Worked perfectly. Of all the shows on Food Network, I think
I enjoy Good Eats the most.

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Scott said:

I like Alton Brown. While I appreciate the art and skill
behind what Flay and Sakai made on the show, there wasn't
a single thing there that *I* would want to put the effort
into making--especially since I don't have a bunch of sous-
chefs running around for me. I have, on the other hand,
made things AB has made, and been very pleased at the
results. He's also shown me great tips for foods I already
have made, like I've also learned good tips for things I
already knew how to make. And making a smoker from a
cardboard box? Worked perfectly. Of all the shows on Food
Network, I think I enjoy Good Eats the most.

Good Eats and Molto Mario... most definitely.

~john

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' Now that's more like it! "Crooks for Homos", with a big
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On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 03:06:23 GMT, Scott <[email hidden]>
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In article <[email hidden]>,

Roy Batty said:

I could do without the weirdo Alton Brown. He's
basically an actor. He said he was doing the job of
Hattori. Yeah, right. Hattori knows what the hell he's
talking about. I was embarassed for Alton when he said
Sakai was going to use rings for a custard. The ring
molds had no bottom so how was he supposed to put a
liquid in them?

I honestly don't think there is one Food Network chef
that is on the level of the Iron Chefs. I have so much
respect for Sakai, Michiba, Morimoto, and Chen. Those
guys are studs. Last night's show seemed fishy (hehe).
They had Flay winning everything, including
presentation. I thought Sakai's presentations were much
better so I was surprised to see them give it to Flay.
Can't say anything about the taste, though.

I like Alton Brown. While I appreciate the art and skill
behind what Flay and Sakai made on the show, there wasn't
a single thing there that *I* would want to put the effort
into making--especially since I don't have a bunch of sous-
chefs running around for me. I have, on the other hand,
made things AB has made, and been very pleased at the
results. He's also shown me great tips for foods I already
have made, like I've also learned good tips for things I
already knew how to make. And making a smoker from a
cardboard box? Worked perfectly. Of all the shows on Food
Network, I think I enjoy Good Eats the most.

That's funny. I actually made the smoker when that show
aired. I've made some incredible salmon at my friend's
house. They could not believe their eyes. Twigs for racks.
I still laugh at that.

Your points are excellent. Although I had my share of
problems with Alton's recipes, he is one fantastic food
person. Down to earth.

Any average cook with 3 or 4 people to command and a
million dollar's worth of Foie Gras and Lobster and
truffles. You'd have to be a true idiot not to come up with
something pretty and tasty at the same time. Not taking
away from the Iron Chefs but there is a difference between
show food and real good eating.

Steve

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Crooks Bolson <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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[censored] shouldn't be allowed on prime-time TV. Save it for
the pay-cable channels late at night where parents can
institute some parental control options.

About what I figured. A worthless piece of trash.

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Besides, I think Stephanie March probably disagrees.

Yeah - gay guys never try and cover up their afflictions.

Why would she be involved with something like that?

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Sounds to me like you are an all-around idiot, with
little of either wit

or

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substance to say.

Lemme guess - You gay?

Why would you think that someone who detests idiots like you
would be a

homophobia is comtemptible.

Brian Rodenborn

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Hm. Stephanie March looks like she's a lesbian.

Hmmm, what's a lesbian look like?

Brian Rodenborn

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You're about as close-minded as he is...

Oh, I don't think that's possible.

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Maybe he's a Sunday School teacher - then *YES* of course
he is going to think something is wrong

sin. I respect their opinion even if I dont' agree with it.
However, what they don't go around publicly abusing people
for being or supposedly being gay. They pray for them
instead of trying to make them feel bad. Hate the sin and
love the sinner and all that.

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Duh! Not everyone is required to conform (or dumb enough
to be brainwashed by) this television induced political
correctness [censored]...

You mean the sort of political correctness like, "Judge not
lest ye be judged"?

Brian Rodenborn

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I have, on the other hand, made things AB has made, and
been very pleased at the results. He's also shown me great
tips for foods I already have made, like I've also learned
good tips for things I already knew how to make. And
making a smoker from a cardboard box? Worked perfectly. Of
all the shows on Food Network, I think I enjoy Good Eats
the most.

Yeah, Alton's not a chef, he's the first that will tell you
that. Well, neither am I! I appreciate his show and I read
his book with great interest.

I didn't try the cardboard smoker for the salmon, although
it looks like fun.

Brian Rodenborn

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On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 03:06:23 GMT, Scott
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In article <[email hidden]>,

Roy Batty said:

I could do without the weirdo Alton Brown. He's
basically an actor. He said he was doing the job of
Hattori. Yeah, right. Hattori knows what the hell he's
talking about. I was embarassed for Alton when he said
Sakai was going to use rings for a custard. The ring
molds had no bottom so how was he supposed to put a
liquid in them?

I honestly don't think there is one Food Network chef
that is on the level of the Iron Chefs. I have so much
respect for Sakai, Michiba, Morimoto, and Chen. Those
guys are studs. Last night's show seemed fishy (hehe).
They had Flay winning everything, including
presentation. I thought Sakai's presentations were much
better so I was surprised to see them give it to Flay.
Can't say anything about the taste, though.

I like Alton Brown. While I appreciate the art and skill
behind what Flay and Sakai made on the show, there wasn't
a single thing there that *I* would want to put the
effort into making--especially since I don't have a bunch
of sous-chefs running around for me. I have, on the other
hand, made things AB has made, and been very pleased at
the results. He's also shown me great tips for foods I
already have made, like I've also learned good tips for
things I already knew how to make. And making a smoker
from a cardboard box? Worked perfectly. Of all the shows
on Food Network, I think I enjoy Good Eats the most.

That's funny. I actually made the smoker when that show
aired. I've made some incredible salmon at my friend's
house. They could not believe their eyes. Twigs for
racks. I still laugh at that.

Your points are excellent. Although I had my share of
problems with Alton's recipes, he is one fantastic food
person. Down to earth.

Any average cook with 3 or 4 people to command and a
million dollar's worth of Foie Gras and Lobster and
truffles. You'd have to be a true idiot not to come up
with something pretty and tasty at the same time. Not
taking away from the Iron Chefs but there is a difference
between show food and real good eating.

Steve

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I was watching the show Making of Iron Chef last night. One
of the staff was shopping for food for one of the chefs, not
sure which one. He had already spent $250 and stated it was
only about 1/10th of the food needed for one show. For $2500
even I should be able to whip up something creative. I think
for that amount of money I'd hire my own chef.

The show is growing on me though. It is very entertaining
and the one sous chef on Mario's team, manipulating that hot
sugar into strings was fascinating.

Michael <- easily amused
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Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

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Scott said:

I like Alton Brown. While I appreciate the art and skill
behind what Flay and Sakai made on the show, there
wasn't a single thing there that *I* would want to put
the effort into making--especially since I don't have a
bunch of sous-chefs running around for me. I have, on
the other hand, made things AB has made, and been very
pleased at the results. He's also shown me great tips
for foods I already have made, like I've also learned
good tips for things I already knew how to make. And
making a smoker from a cardboard box? Worked perfectly.
Of all the shows on Food Network, I think I enjoy Good
Eats the most.

Good Eats and Molto Mario... most definitely.

~john

I agree 100%. These are probably the 2 most entertaining
shows on the Network. Although I'm not a "sweet" type of
guy, on occassion I enjoy watching Jacques Torres, he is a
magician with chocolate.

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On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 03:06:23 GMT, Scott
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In article <[email hidden]>,
Roy Batty <[email hidden]> wrote:

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I was watching the show Making of Iron Chef last night.
One of the

staff

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was shopping for food for one of the chefs, not sure
which one. He

had

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already spent $250 and stated it was only about 1/10th
of the food

needed

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for one show. For $2500 even I should be able to whip up
something creative. I think for that amount of money I'd
hire my own chef.

The show is growing on me though. It is very
entertaining and the

one sous

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chef on Mario's team, manipulating that hot sugar into
strings was fascinating.

Michael <- easily amused

Think it was Wolfgang Puck's pastry chef who did that sugar
thing. It was cool.

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Think it was Wolfgang Puck's pastry chef who did that
sugar thing. It was cool.

aloha,

You're right. Sorry. It was very cool. I would love to try
it but I don't know if my hands are *that* asbestos like.

Michael
--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

Scott said:

I like Alton Brown. While I appreciate the art and skill
behind what Flay and Sakai made on the show, there wasn't a
single thing there that *I* would want to put the effort
into making--especially since I don't have a bunch of sous-
chefs running around for me. I have, on the other hand,
made things AB has made, and been very pleased at the
results. He's also shown me great tips for foods I already
have made, like I've also learned good tips for things I
already knew how to make. And making a smoker from a
cardboard box? Worked perfectly. Of all the shows on Food
Network, I think I enjoy Good Eats the most.

His approach is silly. I could do without the gimmicks, the
props, the puppets. It's like sesame street. Far too much
silliness for me.

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Brian Rodenborn said:

Crooks Bolson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cuednTXUQYiZuBHdRVn-
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Flay is about as [censored] as anyone can get.

What if he was? Are you one of those homophobes that
thinks something

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[censored] shouldn't be allowed on prime-time TV. Save it for
the pay-cable channels late at night where parents can
institute some parental control options.

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Besides, I think Stephanie March probably disagrees.

Yeah - gay guys never try and cover up their afflictions.

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Sounds to me like you are an all-around idiot, with little
of either wit or substance to say.

Lemme guess - You gay?

I can't speak for Brian but I am gay. Never been in the
closet. I know of very few gay guys that try to cover up
their "afflictions" as you so ignorantly bleated. However I
do know several married with children types

kiddies.

Michael
--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

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Brian Rodenborn said:

What if he was? Are you one of those homophobes that
thinks something

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You're about as close-minded as he is... Maybe he's a
Sunday School teacher - then *YES* of course he is going
to think something is wrong

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dumb enough to be brainwashed by) this television induced
political correctness [censored]...

~john

Many religious people do not share that viewpoint. Why would
a Sunday school teacher be teaching intolerance anyway? I
don't believe anyone is asking anyone else to conform.
Acceptance is the goal. Not hatred and intolerance. Of
course there are those out there that prefer to wallow in
their own ignorance and intolerance, bleating about the sins
of others, while commiting sins themselves. Rather
hypocritical IMO.

Michael
--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

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Steve Ritter <[email hidden]> wrote
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Hm. Stephanie March looks like she's a lesbian.

Hmmm, what's a lesbian look like?

Brian Rodenborn

I was about to ask the same question. Perhaps Steve will
enlighten us with his observational skills.

Michael
--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

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Donna Rose said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

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Flay is about as [censored] as anyone can get.

I take it you're an expert in these matters.

I know you are but what am I?

What exactly are you?

Ob recipe from a gay recipe group I belong to:

Josh's Mahogany Chicken Wings

15 chicken wings (3 pounds)
1/2 cup soy sauce
2/2 cup honey
3/4 cup molasses 2 tablespoons chili sauce 1 teaspoon ground
ginger 2 cloves garlic, finely chopped

4. Place chicken in a shallow glass or plastic bowl. Mix the
remaining ingredients and pour over chicken. Cover and
refridgerate 1 hour, turning ocassionally.

5. Heat oven to 375. Line broiler pan with aluminum foil.
Remove chicken from marinade, and reseve the left over
marinade. Place chicken in a single layer on rack in foil
lined broiler pan; brush with marinade.

6. Bake 30 minutes then turn chicken over. Bake about 20
minutes longer, brushing occasionally with marinade,
until deep brown and juice of the chicken is no longer
pink when centers of the thickest pieces are cut.

Discard any remaining marinade.

* Never wear anything you like while eating these wings
since you tend to make a pig of yourself.

Eat and Enjoy!

Michael
--
Deathbed statement...

"Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d.
December 12, 1968

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ridiculous I was totally disgusted. The [censored] being passed
off as high class cuisine these days is a joke.

Ever seen LA Story by Steve Martin?<g> His bits poking fun
at haute cuisine in LA are funny, at least to me.

Toasted ravioli even went over big there when a St. Louis
chef went west...at at least 5 times the amount charged in
its place of origin.
(P.S. Toasted ravioli is actually deep fried ravioli.)

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 01:51:31 -0500, "Brian Rodenborn"
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Steve Ritter <[email hidden]> wrote
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Hm. Stephanie March looks like she's a lesbian.

Hmmm, what's a lesbian look like?

Brian Rodenborn

A lesbian looks like her girlfriend. Just like a gay
person looks well, happy. Come on. I know you can tell
them apart🙂

Steve

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On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 01:55:44 -0500, "Brian Rodenborn"
<[email hidden]> Interjected.. :

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Levelwave© <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

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You're about as close-minded as he is...

Oh, I don't think that's possible.

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Maybe he's a Sunday School teacher - then *YES* of
course he is going to think something is wrong

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sin. I respect their opinion even if I dont' agree with
it. However, what they don't go around publicly abusing
people for being or supposedly being gay. They pray for
them instead of trying to make them feel bad. Hate the sin
and love the sinner and all that.

The Pope said if Michael Jackson abuses another kid, he'll
be ready to be ordained.

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Duh! Not everyone is required to conform (or dumb enough
to be brainwashed by) this television induced political
correctness [censored]...

You mean the sort of political correctness like, "Judge
not lest ye be judged"?

Brian Rodenborn

Steve

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