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  1. All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.

    Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
    be your top 5 wishes?

    Mine are:

    1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could be
    hosed out.
    2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
    3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
    4. A temp controlled wine closet
    5. A walk-in Pantry.

    Yours?

    Dimitri

  2. Dimitri said:

    All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.

    Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
    be your top 5 wishes?

    A gas stove/oven.
    More storage space.
    A proper pantry.
    A double sink.
    More outlets, especially at the island.

    serene

  3. "serene" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Dimitri said:

    All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.

    Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what


    would

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be your top 5 wishes?

    A gas stove/oven.
    More storage space.
    A proper pantry.
    A double sink.
    More outlets, especially at the island.

    serene

    I would also do the gas stove/oven.
    ANY storage space would be lovely.
    A pantry would be a dream.
    A double sink with a DISPOSAL.
    A dishwasher - not me!

    kili

  4. "serene" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Dimitri said:

    All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.

    Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what
    would
    be your top 5 wishes?

    A gas stove/oven.
    More storage space.
    A proper pantry.
    A double sink.
    More outlets, especially at the island.

    serene

    TWO double sinks
    a couple of floor outlets
    a gas stove & a huge overhead vent
    more work area
    dee

  5. kilikini said:

    A double sink with a DISPOSAL.

    Yeah, a disposal would be good, though I've gotten used to putting food
    scraps in the compost bucket.

    Quoted message said:

    A dishwasher - not me!

    I don't like the way dishes come out of the dishwasher still looking
    like they need to be washed, so I prefer to do them by hand. I wouldn't
    object to having someone around who would hand-wash all the dishes,
    though. :-)

    serene

  6. Dimitri said:

    All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.

    Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen
    what would be your top 5 wishes?

    Mine are:

    1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the
    floor could be hosed out.


    Absolutely!

    Quoted message said:

    2. An almost commercial wok cooker.


    Not that important to me.

    Quoted message said:

    3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.


    For me it would be a gas stove with a griddle.

    Quoted message said:

    4. A temp controlled wine closet


    Oh yeah!!

    Quoted message said:

    5. A walk-in Pantry.


    Butler's Pantry... nice!

    Quoted message said:


    Yours?

    Dimitri

    Double sink and one large deep sink for deep pots. Lots of prep space.
    Plenty of LIGHTING (I hate a dully lit kitchen). A window over the sink
    with a solarium window for growing potted herbs. Glass front cabinets for
    the items on the upper tier but not below where the pots and pans are
    stored. And if there is an unused corner where a traditional cabinet won't
    fit, put in a cabinet-fronted 3/4 lazy-susan. Hmmm, I don't ask for much,
    do I? LOL

    Jill

  7. Dimitri said:

    All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.

    Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
    be your top 5 wishes?

    Mine are:

    1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could be
    hosed out.
    2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
    3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
    4. A temp controlled wine closet
    5. A walk-in Pantry.

    Yours?

    Dimitri

    1)gas stove/convection oven
    2)stainless/granite/butcherblock counters
    3)tile floor with drain in center
    4)walk-in pantry
    5)big-ass refrigerator with freezer on the bottom

    (this would be assuming i actually owned a kitchen :> )

    --

    saerah

    "It's not a gimmick, it's an incentive."- asterbark, afca

    aware of the manifold possibilities of the future

    "I think there's a clause in the Shaman's and Jujumen's Local #57 Union
    contract that they have to have reciprocity for each other's shop rules."
    -König Prüß

  8. sarah bennett said:
    Dimitri said:

    All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.

    Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen
    what would be your top 5 wishes?

    Mine are:

    1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor
    could be hosed out.
    2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
    3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
    4. A temp controlled wine closet
    5. A walk-in Pantry.

    Yours?

    Dimitri

    1)gas stove/convection oven
    2)stainless/granite/butcherblock counters
    3)tile floor with drain in center
    4)walk-in pantry
    5)big-ass refrigerator with freezer on the bottom

    (this would be assuming i actually owned a kitchen :> )

    ok, maybe i'd switch out the walk-in pantry with a prep sink and a small
    sink to wash my hands in.

    --

    saerah

    "It's not a gimmick, it's an incentive."- asterbark, afca

    aware of the manifold possibilities of the future

    "I think there's a clause in the Shaman's and Jujumen's Local #57 Union
    contract that they have to have reciprocity for each other's shop rules."
    -König Prüß

  9. On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:04:30 -0700, [email hidden] (serene)

    Quoted message said:
    kilikini said:

    A double sink with a DISPOSAL.

    Yeah, a disposal would be good, though I've gotten used to putting food
    scraps in the compost bucket.

    Quoted message said:

    A dishwasher - not me!

    I don't like the way dishes come out of the dishwasher still looking
    like they need to be washed, so I prefer to do them by hand.

    Then you don't have a very good dishwasher or something is wrong with
    the setup. A good dishwasher will clean dishes better than can be
    done by hand, with less water. Mine even scrubs pans quite nicely,
    on the regular cycle. Part of this is due to the detergent- it's
    wicked stuff!

    Sue(tm)
    Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  10. Dimitri said:

    All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.

    Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
    be your top 5 wishes?

    Mine are:

    1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could be
    hosed out.

    A definite must.

    Quoted message said:

    2. An almost commercial wok cooker.

    Have one on the outside patio stove with a large plancha (griddle) and
    4 burners.

    Quoted message said:

    3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.

    Have one on the small outside stove which we may or may not keep.

    Quoted message said:

    4. A temp controlled wine closet

    Not necessary for us...so substitute a kitchen island with adequate
    work and storage space.

    Quoted message said:

    5. A walk-in Pantry.

    A definite must.

    All tile kitchen....looked at imported Spanish tile this afternoon.
    Sandi

  11. at Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:43:22 GMT in
    <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
    (Dimitri) wrote :

    Quoted message said:

    All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.

    Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what
    would be your top 5 wishes?

    Mine are:

    1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor
    could be hosed out.
    2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
    3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
    4. A temp controlled wine closet
    5. A walk-in Pantry.

    Yours?

    1. A 6-burner gas stovetop with commercial BTU rating and a simmer setting
    (i.e. low output) that worked by selectively turning off jets rather than
    by cycling jets, combined with an electric-powered oven once again with
    commercial heat ratings.

    2. 1m wide countertop, with at least 2 m of length in solid marble and at
    least 1.5 meters of length in 10 cm minimum thickness end-grain butcher
    block.

    3. A temperature and humidity controlled pantry.

    4. Triple stainless sinks with spray-attachment faucet and dual taps for
    hot and cold (i.e. none of those one-handle designs)

    5. A large, dedicated upright freezer.

    --
    Alex Rast
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    (remove d., .7, not, and .NOSPAM to reply)

  12. On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:43:22 GMT, "Dimitri" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.

    Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
    be your top 5 wishes?

    OK, since this is not a pie-in-the-sky re-do in a dream house, I will
    have to do without a walk-in pantry since my house is too small.
    Looking at my current kitchen, my major appliances are new. I have no
    room for more counterspace or wine closet, but other than that, I like
    the layout. What I would like/need in this reasonable remodel:

    1. new tile floor
    2. new countertops and windowsill (probably Silestone) and tile
    backsplash
    3. undermount sink (although I like my current one, I hate the trim
    thing)
    4. a custom-built floor-to-ceiling pantry/cupboard
    5. custom-built rolling cart to match my cabinets and new countertop.

    Sue(tm)
    Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  13. Dimitri said:
    Quoted message said:

    All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.

    Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen
    what would be your top 5 wishes?

    Mine are:

    1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the
    floor could be hosed out.
    2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
    3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
    4. A temp controlled wine closet
    5. A walk-in Pantry.

    1. A Commercial gas stove with 2 full ovens, 1 with steam injection
    2. An appliance counter with outlets set in for each appliance. A pull down
    face to hide the appliances when not in use would be nice.
    3. Walk-In pantry
    4. Increased storage space
    5. Dishwasher drawers

    Often thought I would like a wood fired oven, but doubt I would make the
    best use of it.

    Debbie

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dimitri said:

    All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.

    Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what
    would
    be your top 5 wishes?

    Mine are:

    1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could
    be hosed out.
    2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
    3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
    4. A temp controlled wine closet
    5. A walk-in Pantry.

    Yours?

    A ceramic tile floor would be nice, but I don't see a need for a drain.
    A drain in a kitchen floor seems like it would be a breeding ground for
    insects, plus your floor would have to curve in toward the drain in
    order for water to flow toward it. I prefer in my ideal kitchen to have
    a level floor, but that's just me.

    I am not a big wine drinker, so a fancy wine closet would be a waste for
    me, but I can see how wine fanciers would benefit from it.

    For me, the list is:

    1) Heavy duty gas range with six burners that's easy to clean.

    2) A real salamander so I can broil meats the way broiling is intended.

    3) A high quality built-in grill with a vented hood sure would be nice.

    4) A high efficiency refrigerator/freezer with a drink and ice
    dispenser built into the door, frost free, and quiet.

    5) Acres of storage and counter space.

  15. Dimitri said:

    All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.

    Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
    be your top 5 wishes?

    Mine are:

    1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could be
    hosed out.
    2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
    3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
    4. A temp controlled wine closet
    5. A walk-in Pantry.

    Yours?

    Dimitri

    I love your floor drain idea. I would go for the large strong vent
    hood, over a commercial double oven, with six gas burners, two of which
    could hold a grill -- either flat or slotted.

    A double sink at one place, and a bar / vegetable sink over there.

    A center island work place that has multiple electric outlets all
    around on the sides (my brother actually custom made this).

    Many shelving units around the room with those steel (fence-type?) wire
    racks.

    I'm intrigued by the set-up on Food Network for Mario, (of course it's
    a TV studio), where his guests are sitting at a counter across from
    him, so he can cook while chatting with his guests, and simply keep
    handing food over to them as each item is ready. I'm pretty much over
    the picture of sitting in a formal dining room, linens and silver,
    etc., when everything is ready and served. I want my guests to be with
    me when I'm having fun in the kitchen, but wtill with that counter as a
    barrier so they don't get in my way ;-Q

    Oh yes, again another Food Network backstage peek -- they had rows of
    fridge's with glass doors so you can see what's there without opening
    the doors. ELsewhere I have seen home refrigerators with the freezer
    portion below instead of above, and as a pull-out drawer so the cold
    air isn't lost. Amana makes on where the freezer portion is about
    forty percent of the total unit. Of course, this would be separate
    from the wine cooler and the glass-door cooler. I think the latter two
    would have to be in the adjoining pantry, another full room (butler's
    pantry) with cabinets and counters.

  16. On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 23:43:22 GMT, "Dimitri" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.

    Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
    be your top 5 wishes?

    Mine are:

    1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor could be
    hosed out.

    Good idea. I'd settle for just getting the gastly carpet out of mine,
    but I'm afraid of what's underneath it.

    Quoted message said:

    2. An almost commercial wok cooker.

    I'm not interested in the above, but I can see how it would be cool.

    Quoted message said:

    3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.

    I'd settle for a hood that doesn't sound like a disabled B-17 trying
    desperatelt to land.

    Quoted message said:

    4. A temp controlled wine closet

    Not my ideal, but again...

    Quoted message said:

    5. A walk-in Pantry.


    I have one, but I may need a consultant on how best to use it.

    Quoted message said:

    Yours?


    I'd like to replace the formica top on the island in my kitchen with a
    butcher block. I may yet do that. We'll see.

    modom

  17. On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:46:07 -0700, [email hidden] (serene)

    Quoted message said:
    Dimitri said:

    All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.

    Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what would
    be your top 5 wishes?

    A gas stove/oven.
    More storage space.
    A proper pantry.
    A double sink.

    Yeah, I'd seriously upgrade my sink and my kitchen faucet. In fact, I
    think I will!

    Quoted message said:

    More outlets, especially at the island.

    serene

    modom

  18. Wood cook stove
    Walk in hearth with bread ovens built in to the sides
    Wide plank wood work table
    Enormous walk in pantry/scullery
    Porch kitchen for canning, etc., without getting the kitchen hot in the
    summer.

    chula

  19. On Thu 30 Jun 2005 08:39:16p, wrote in rec.food.cooking:

    Quoted message said:

    Wood cook stove
    Walk in hearth with bread ovens built in to the sides
    Wide plank wood work table
    Enormous walk in pantry/scullery
    Porch kitchen for canning, etc., without getting the kitchen hot in the
    summer.

    Sounds like a 1905 kitchen!

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    Wayne Boatwright *¿*
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  20. "Dimitri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    All this remodeling of kitchens got me thinking.

    Assuming you had the funds (reasonable amount) to redo your kitchen what
    would be your top 5 wishes?

    Mine are:

    1. A tile floor and a drain in the center of the floor so the floor
    could be hosed out.
    2. An almost commercial wok cooker.
    3. A high quality built in grill with vented hood.
    4. A temp controlled wine closet
    5. A walk-in Pantry.

    Yours?

    Dimitri


    5,3,1
    I liked the idea of a tile floor with a drain when I had an infant--it isn't
    so important now.
    Whenever I daydream about my dream home, I spend most of my time designing
    my walk-in pantry, one like grandpa had--that thing had windows and shelves
    and bins and cupboards and must have been at least 20 feet long. sigh.
    The other thing I would do to the kitchen is redesign the traditional
    cupboard space. I'd want banks of floor to ceiling cupboards (pull-outs on
    the bottom maybe 3-4) feet. Having the work surface/counter in front of the
    cupboards is a real pain for storage and access. The top cupboards become
    useless. I'd want enclosed book shelves for the cookbooks. And a specially
    designed niche for the computer, telephone etc. I have my computer in the
    kitchen now and I can't imagine being without it.

    Janet

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