Head Protection

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:58:39 -0700, SMS <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

David L. Johnson said:

It has nothing to do with helmet laws, as you well know.

Actually, the MHLs for kids do have one positive aspect, in that they
provide the parent with a false sense of security that the helmet
negates the danger of riding a bicycle,

This is a _positive_ aspect?

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:58:39 -0700, SMS <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I
get so tired of the 85% number, because it's really 85% of a very, very
small percentage to begin with

Most of us got tired of the 85% statistic because it was utterly,
blatantly, fabulously wrong - but in favour of helmet laws, so the
helmet manufacturers and pro-MHL crazies picked it up and ran with it
- and they _still_ use it.

Quoted message said:

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:58:39 -0700, SMS <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

David L. Johnson wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It has nothing to do with helmet laws, as you well know.

Quoted message said:

Actually, the MHLs for kids do have one positive aspect, in that they
provide the parent with a false sense of security that the helmet
negates the danger of riding a bicycle,

This is a _positive_ aspect?

Absolutely! As you know, in this day and age, oceans no longer protect
us!

Bill Sornson said:

Bill Baka said:

I plonked you then un-plonked you. Reading some of your stupid
comments tends to be amusing.
Bill Baka

Bill, you specifically said you COULD NOT PLONK PEOPLE with {insert lame
software excuse here}. IIRC, it was when that one guy was stalking you with
some pretty hilarious quotes from your illustrious posting past.

I can plonk you by "From" field or subject.

Quoted message said:

Now you claim something else -- shades of the Tricycle Story! LOL (First
it was 65 mph complete with a ticket, then 20 mph with a ride home in a
squad car, etc etc etc etc......................)

20 MPH with a ride home in a 1952 Ford police car. They didn't think a
5 year old kid on a tricycle should be taking the lane on a highway.

Quoted message said:

I'm too lazy to Google it, but I specifically recall you saying you couldn't
block individual senders. Whatever.

I can block the senders but not anyone who replies to your [censored].
Thunderbird won't read the body of the message in a newsgroup but I can
do all kinds of filtering on the email half.

Quoted message said:

Bill "but at least you finally fixed your clock (only 3 days later)" S.

It changes according to what I have booted, Linux A, B, C, Windoze, etc.
Bill (argue with dunce mode off) Baka

landotter said:

SMS said:

Bill Baka said:

The reason for that is that I am using Linux today and not the usual
Winders. I am evaluating different Linux distributions for customers who
may not want to be forced into 'Sidegrading' to Vista.
Simple enough for you?
Bill Baka

Check out the Mepis version of Ubuntu. It's the best release I've found
for migrating people from Windows. It's the first version I tried that
got nearly everything working on my notebook, including 802.11 and
Bluetooth (one minor tweak to get Bluetooth going).

Mepis is just fine and dandy. However, due to them including some
features such as codecs and plugins, the legality of the distribution
is unfortunately a bit sketchy. Worth looking into.

I'm running the development version of Ubuntu, Feisty Fawn, on the
desktop. It's very easy to install the proprietary things that Mepis
comes with out of the box with graphical tools these days.

I'd definitely recommend Ubuntu or Ubuntu based distros, as the
userbase is huge and so is the possibility for assistance if you need
it.

All good, but I am looking at Linspire as a Windows look-alike, Ubuntu
for total newbies, Suse 10.3 Alpha for me to play with, Debian for a lot
of stuff to play with, Red Hat for people who just have to spend their
money on an operating system, and Vista for idiots with more money than
brains.
Most install pretty good and auto-recognize the weird hardware I have an
they are up and running and downloading updates before I ever have to
reboot. Windows can't seem to recognize much more than the mouse without
about 6 different installs and reboots, so guess which way I am leaning?

I build custom systems for people and advise and show them how to use
what they bought.
In between all that I ride my bike. I went out yesterday to pry my heavy
friend out for a ride but he was actually sick so I rode around for a
while and came home....Sweaty. It went from maybe 60 to 80+ in 2 days
here in my part of California.

Anyway, Mepis(?).
The last time I heard of anybody refer to Ubuntu it was 6.10 and it was
the evaluation version called "Edgy Eft.". So Feisty Fawn would be 6.2?
Bill Baka, doing too much thinking and not enough riding.

landotter said:

Bill Baka said:

The last time I heard of anybody refer to Ubuntu it was 6.10 and it was
the evaluation version called "Edgy Eft.". So Feisty Fawn would be 6.2?
Bill Baka, doing too much thinking and not enough riding.

Ubuntu's numerical naming is very simple. It's the year, dot, then the
month it was released. Each release also gets a silly nickname as
well. Therefore Feisty Fawn would be 7.04 as it's a predevelopment
release.

For an average user that doesn't want to upgrade their box and find
the gui is broken, a more stable version like the 6.06 Dapper Drake
LTS (long term support) is recommended.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dapper_drake

It's a whole new paradigm, not necessarily a Wndows drop in
replacement. It works for me just fine, but understand that it ain't
'dows, and you'll need new skills if you install it for customers.

Funny how I missed that unless it wasn't up yet when I downloaded 6.10
about 6 weeks ago. I was using Dapper Drake 6.06 and it was/is good but
I am in the business to the extent of evaluating all kinds of things so
I can talk to the occasionally well informed and intelligent customer.
Keeping up with hardware and software both keeps me kind of busy, at
least as much as I want to be. I work for myself building custom
computers for people who don't want to settle for the junk inside a
Dell, H.P., or Compaq. Opening one of those shows how cheap they are
inside. It's part time so I can either ride or work.
Bill Baka

Tom Keats said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bill Baka said:

All good, but I am looking at Linspire as a Windows look-alike

If you want Windows, get fuggin' Windows.
If you don't want Windows, get /not/ Windows,
and learn to live without the Windows environment,
or the Windows way of doing things.

Learn to do kernel rebuilds (by hand-editing config files,)
and do Vertical Development, and you'll be laffin'.

You'll save a bunch of disk space and CPU work, too.

Aw, who am I kiddin'? Go play with your "not-Windows" Windows.
Amuse thyself with your erzatz Windows that is Windows -- just
not from Microsoft.

It's a cryin' shame that *nix has to be dragged down
to that level.

I am also a command line person when I get the chance but I deal with
the 'Joe Consumer' crowd so if I want to keep my little business going I
have to give 'them' what they want.
Give me DOS over Windows any day. Give me Assembly over Visual [censored], too.
Bill Baka

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bill Baka said:

All good, but I am looking at Linspire as a Windows look-alike

If you want Windows, get fuggin' Windows.
If you don't want Windows, get /not/ Windows,
and learn to live without the Windows environment,
or the Windows way of doing things.

Learn to do kernel rebuilds (by hand-editing config files,)
and do Vertical Development, and you'll be laffin'.

You'll save a bunch of disk space and CPU work, too.

Aw, who am I kiddin'? Go play with your "not-Windows" Windows.
Amuse thyself with your erzatz Windows that is Windows -- just
not from Microsoft.

It's a cryin' shame that *nix has to be dragged down
to that level.

--
Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

Bill Baka said:

The last time I heard of anybody refer to Ubuntu it was 6.10 and it was
the evaluation version called "Edgy Eft.". So Feisty Fawn would be 6.2?
Bill Baka, doing too much thinking and not enough riding.

Ubuntu's numerical naming is very simple. It's the year, dot, then the
month it was released. Each release also gets a silly nickname as
well. Therefore Feisty Fawn would be 7.04 as it's a predevelopment
release.

For an average user that doesn't want to upgrade their box and find
the gui is broken, a more stable version like the 6.06 Dapper Drake
LTS (long term support) is recommended.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dapper_drake

It's a whole new paradigm, not necessarily a Wndows drop in
replacement. It works for me just fine, but understand that it ain't
'dows, and you'll need new skills if you install it for customers.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bill Baka said:

Tom Keats said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bill Baka said:

All good, but I am looking at Linspire as a Windows look-alike

If you want Windows, get fuggin' Windows.
If you don't want Windows, get /not/ Windows,
and learn to live without the Windows environment,
or the Windows way of doing things.

Learn to do kernel rebuilds (by hand-editing config files,)
and do Vertical Development, and you'll be laffin'.

You'll save a bunch of disk space and CPU work, too.

Aw, who am I kiddin'? Go play with your "not-Windows" Windows.
Amuse thyself with your erzatz Windows that is Windows -- just
not from Microsoft.

It's a cryin' shame that *nix has to be dragged down
to that level.

I am also a command line person when I get the chance but I deal with
the 'Joe Consumer' crowd so if I want to keep my little business going I
have to give 'them' what they want.

What they want is Windows, just not from Microsoft.
Various Linux implementations are happy to be Windows.

Quoted message said:

Give me DOS over Windows any day.

You can have it.

Quoted message said:

Give me Assembly over Visual [censored], too.

So download GNU as. It's free.

cheers,
Tom

--
Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca