Gout, Dammit!

Emma Thackery said:

Consumption of Cherries Lowers Plasma Urate in Healthy Women

<http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/133/6/1826?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&h
its=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=(uric+acid)+and+(cherries)&searchid=1&FIRST
INDEX=0&volume=133&issue=6&resourcetype=HWCIT>

Thanks for the link. Here's a clickable short version of the link for those not
wanting to paste the above back together:

http://tinyurl.com/2lv93x

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wff_ng_7 (at) verizon (dot) net

Emma Thackery said:

<http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/133/6/1826?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&h
its=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=(uric+acid)+and+(cherries)&searchid=1&FIRST
INDEX=0&volume=133&issue=6&resourcetype=HWCIT>

http://tinyurl.com/

nb

Cindi - HappyMamatoThree said:

Tada!!!!!!!!!! Emma answered it. I wonder if it has been shown to be
effective in men in a study, hmmmm. It does work for my BIL so anecdotally
it does at least work for some men.

My mother got gout, and also had some arthritis. When she drank Cran Cherry
juice (ocean spray) she said it helped her arthritis.

"Puester" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Gout is caused by the breakdown of proteins which can create uric acid
crystals in the joints. It is accelerated by taking thiazide diuretics.

Very helpful.

In article <GbK5i.307$9G3.283@trnddc07>,

wff_ng_7 said:

Emma Thackery said:

Consumption of Cherries Lowers Plasma Urate in Healthy Women

<http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/133/6/1826?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&h
its=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=(uric+acid)+and+(cherries)&searchid=1&FIRST
INDEX=0&volume=133&issue=6&resourcetype=HWCIT>

Thanks for the link. Here's a clickable short version of the link for
those not wanting to paste the above back together:

http://tinyurl.com/2lv93x

Thanks. BTW, I have no trouble clicking on any link as long as it is
enclosed in angle brackets. No copying, no pasting and certainly no
piecing. I just click on it and it opens in my browser or whatever.
I've never understood why some people have problems or the need to
convert URLs. What's the deal?

Emma

"Emma Thackery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

In article <GbK5i.307$9G3.283@trnddc07>,

wff_ng_7 said:

Emma Thackery said:

Consumption of Cherries Lowers Plasma Urate in Healthy Women

<http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/133/6/1826?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&h
its=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=(uric+acid)+and+(cherries)&searchid=1&FIRST
INDEX=0&volume=133&issue=6&resourcetype=HWCIT>

Thanks for the link. Here's a clickable short version of the link for
those not wanting to paste the above back together:

http://tinyurl.com/2lv93x

Thanks. BTW, I have no trouble clicking on any link as long as it is
enclosed in angle brackets. No copying, no pasting and certainly no
piecing. I just click on it and it opens in my browser or whatever.
I've never understood why some people have problems or the need to
convert URLs. What's the deal?

Did you see the "link" you posted?

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Steve Pope) said:

Emma Thackery said:

Consumption of Cherries Lowers Plasma Urate in Healthy Women

<http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/133/6/1826?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&h
its=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=(uric+acid)+and+(cherries)&searchid=1&FIRST
INDEX=0&volume=133&issue=6&resourcetype=HWCIT>

Thanks.

I was beginning to trust this reseach piece until the authors
started talking about "phytochemicals".

phytochemistry - The chemistry of plants and plant products. (OED)

So what exactly are you saying? The article is bogus because they use
the term "phytochemicals"?

Emma Thackery said:

Thanks. BTW, I have no trouble clicking on any link as long as it is
enclosed in angle brackets. No copying, no pasting and certainly no
piecing. I just click on it and it opens in my browser or whatever.
I've never understood why some people have problems or the need to
convert URLs. What's the deal?

When long lines in posts go out, they get wrapped by the sender's news program.
In my news program (Windows Vista Mail aka Outlook Express), the lines get
wrapped at 80 characters by default. I can change how wide a line can be, but I
can't turn wrapping off.

You are apparently using a Mac, so I'm not sure how line wrapping works on for
you. But your posting was wrapped when sent, not when received.

You might try clicking on the link in your received copy of your post vs. the
sent copy to see if the link works that way. It may not. For me, only the first
line of the link gets used, so it fails to go to the right web page.

Using www.tinyurl.com is pretty easy if you haven't tried it before. You copy
your link you want to use, then paste it into the box at www.tinyurl.com. Hit
"Make TinyURL!", and it comes back with a short url. You copy that and paste it
into the post your are composing.

--
wff_ng_7 (at) verizon (dot) net

wff_ng_7 said:

When long lines in posts go out, they get wrapped by the sender's news program.

Yes, but enclosing them in brackets - <link> - retains the integrity
of the URL even if it is wrapped. I have to admit, even I forgot
about this little trick and mentioned tinyurl, also. But, turns out
even though my newreader client (slrn) did wrap it to 3 lines, it
still workd just fine when I tried it. The problen is, most folks
don't know about this trick and would see it as a broken wrapped link
and not try and use it. There's couple more syntax tricks that will
accomplish the same thing, but makeashorter and tinyurl have spoiled
us all rotten and I've forgotten those, too. Live and relearn.

nb

Andy q said:

sf said...

Quoted message said:

Andy q said:

Dammit!

Now you'll listen more closely when I tell you about hubby's gout
attacks.,,,

patting Andy's shoulder

On the way home from the podiatrists office I thought "how am I going to
break this to sf?!!" :|

Dammit!

BUSTED!

Nobody told you "loose lips sink ships"?
😉

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"Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"wff_ng_7" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

But Nancy said: "when I was a kid". Who knows how long ago that was! ;-)

(laugh) It can best be described in decades.

Funny what you remember. My family was up in the Bronx visiting
relatives ... this old guy was hanging out in front of their building on
the
Grand Concourse.

Haven't been there lately, but it was, indeed, a Grand Concourse.
But I digress.

Quoted message said:

Maybe I'm just as old, but I don't ever remember seeing anyone with
goiter. But I've always lived on the East Coast, so perhaps it wouldn't
have happened here. Foods weren't always as widely distributed as they
are now.

On this woman, the goiter looks closer to football sized than softball
sized:
http://tinyurl.com/2s8hbw

Ay yi yi, that poor woman, that can't be comfortable.

nancy

I believe goiter was more common away from the iodine rich coasts. Now a lot
of our table salt has iodine in it, we eat a more varied diet, and we take
more vitamins. Here in the US anyway.
Edrena

notbob said:

wff_ng_7 said:

When long lines in posts go out, they get wrapped by the sender's news
program.

Yes, but enclosing them in brackets - <link> - retains the integrity
of the URL even if it is wrapped. I have to admit, even I forgot
about this little trick and mentioned tinyurl, also. But, turns out
even though my newreader client (slrn) did wrap it to 3 lines, it
still workd just fine when I tried it. The problen is, most folks
don't know about this trick and would see it as a broken wrapped link
and not try and use it. There's couple more syntax tricks that will
accomplish the same thing, but makeashorter and tinyurl have spoiled
us all rotten and I've forgotten those, too. Live and relearn.

The angle bracket thing doesn't work in Outlook Express (or its newer
incarnation, Windows Vista Mail), which is a news reader that many are using. In
Outlook Express, only the first line of the link is highlighted, and that is
what gets opened in the browser. Obviously using only the first line won't work.

I know some would say get a real news reader, but there is only so much time in
a day to fool with such things.

--
wff_ng_7 (at) verizon (dot) net

Steve Pope said:

In article said:

notbob said...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I looked up "bad gout food" lists for weeks. All were
different. I finally came to the conclusion the only safe edibles
were water and dirt. Forget that!

Quoted message said:

The apparently consistent suggestion of only 5-6oz. of animal protein a day
will be a big adjustment!

You don't need to avoid protein, just nucleic acids.

Steve

I hope that was a joke.

-L.

-L. said:

Steve Pope wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

You don't need to avoid protein, just nucleic acids.

I hope that was a joke.

It's the prevailing medical opinion. That may well be a joke.
Those crackers get it wrong all the time.

Steve

The Joneses said:

"Nancy Young" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"wff_ng_7" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

But Nancy said: "when I was a kid". Who knows how long ago that was! ;-)

(laugh) It can best be described in decades.

Funny what you remember. My family was up in the Bronx visiting
relatives ... this old guy was hanging out in front of their building on
the
Grand Concourse.

Haven't been there lately, but it was, indeed, a Grand Concourse.
But I digress.

Quoted message said:

Maybe I'm just as old, but I don't ever remember seeing anyone with
goiter. But I've always lived on the East Coast, so perhaps it wouldn't
have happened here. Foods weren't always as widely distributed as they
are now.

On this woman, the goiter looks closer to football sized than softball
sized:
http://tinyurl.com/2s8hbw

Ay yi yi, that poor woman, that can't be comfortable.

nancy

I believe goiter was more common away from the iodine rich coasts. Now a lot
of our table salt has iodine in it, we eat a more varied diet, and we take
more vitamins. Here in the US anyway.
Edrena

Yer right as usual Sister Edrena. My Dad had a goiter and the subsequent
removal of the thyroid glands when he was a young man. Sometime in the
mid-thirties if I remember what he told me correctly. He was from
Central Louisiana, salt was local from a "lick", no seafood of any kind,
etc. Haven't heard of one since that one.

George

wff_ng_7 said:

notbob said:

wff_ng_7 said:

When long lines in posts go out, they get wrapped by the sender's news
program.

Yes, but enclosing them in brackets - <link> - retains the integrity
of the URL even if it is wrapped. I have to admit, even I forgot
about this little trick and mentioned tinyurl, also. But, turns out
even though my newreader client (slrn) did wrap it to 3 lines, it
still workd just fine when I tried it. The problen is, most folks
don't know about this trick and would see it as a broken wrapped link
and not try and use it. There's couple more syntax tricks that will
accomplish the same thing, but makeashorter and tinyurl have spoiled
us all rotten and I've forgotten those, too. Live and relearn.

The angle bracket thing doesn't work in Outlook Express (or its newer
incarnation, Windows Vista Mail), which is a news reader that many are using. In
Outlook Express, only the first line of the link is highlighted, and that is
what gets opened in the browser. Obviously using only the first line won't work.

I know some would say get a real news reader, but there is only so much time in
a day to fool with such things.

In article <p0O5i.102$d63.73@trnddc06>,

wff_ng_7 said:

Emma Thackery said:

Thanks. BTW, I have no trouble clicking on any link as long as it is
enclosed in angle brackets. No copying, no pasting and certainly no
piecing. I just click on it and it opens in my browser or whatever.
I've never understood why some people have problems or the need to
convert URLs. What's the deal?

When long lines in posts go out, they get wrapped by the sender's
news program. In my news program (Windows Vista Mail aka Outlook
Express), the lines get wrapped at 80 characters by default. I can
change how wide a line can be, but I can't turn wrapping off.

Quoted message said:

You are apparently using a Mac, so I'm not sure how line wrapping
works on for you. But your posting was wrapped when sent, not when
received.

I really appreciate you explaining this to me. I figured it had to do
with line-wrapping but I didn't know exactly what the problem was. I
use a dedicated news client (MT-Newswatcher) and I have it set at the 72
character GNKSA line wrap standard. I can change that to whatever I
want or even not wrap at all but I keep it at 72. What I don't
understand is why Outlook would have a problem with text wrapped at 72
if it wraps at 80 or why a URL enclosed by the standard angle brackets
would not be kept intact. I thought all news readers were supposed to
do that. When I read posts that are shorter than 72 character lines,
they just read like narrower columns.

Quoted message said:

You might try clicking on the link in your received copy of your post
vs. the sent copy to see if the link works that way. It may not. For
me, only the first line of the link gets used, so it fails to go to
the right web page.

Yes, it works fine for me. As long as they are enclosed in angle
brackets, MT-NW keeps them together. I'm pretty sure that all the Mac
and Unix dedicated news clients work the same way in this regard.

Quoted message said:

Using www.tinyurl.com is pretty easy if you haven't tried it before.
You copy your link you want to use, then paste it into the box at
www.tinyurl.com. Hit "Make TinyURL!", and it comes back with a short
url. You copy that and paste it into the post your are composing.

Thanks. For how long does the tiny URL remain valid?

In article <NSP5i.1866$XC3.669@trnddc04>,

wff_ng_7 said:

The angle bracket thing doesn't work in Outlook Express...

Oh I see. Well that sucks.

In article <[email hidden]>, "cybercat" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Emma Thackery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Thanks. BTW, I have no trouble clicking on any link as long as it is
enclosed in angle brackets. No copying, no pasting and certainly no
piecing. I just click on it and it opens in my browser or whatever.
I've never understood why some people have problems or the need to
convert URLs. What's the deal?

Did you see the "link" you posted?

Of course I saw the link I posted. What is your point?

In article <[email hidden]>,

George Shirley said:

The Joneses wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I believe goiter was more common away from the iodine rich coasts.
Now a lot of our table salt has iodine in it, we eat a more varied
diet, and we take more vitamins. Here in the US anyway. Edrena

Yer right as usual Sister Edrena. My Dad had a goiter and the
subsequent removal of the thyroid glands when he was a young man.
Sometime in the mid-thirties if I remember what he told me correctly.
He was from Central Louisiana, salt was local from a "lick", no
seafood of any kind, etc. Haven't heard of one since that one.

That sounds like Graves or one of the other thyroid conditions, not lack
of iodine.