Getting Discouraged...help?

Quit snacking, eat less, and exercise more.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"Deaana" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi there folks. I'm new to this newsgroup and I was hoping to get a
little encouragement.

See, I started Atkins (for the 2nd time) on October 1. It worked great
the first month, I lost 10 pounds (going for about 35 more) but now it's
seemed to peter out. The last 3 weeks I haven't lost anything, it's just
kind of hovering. Quite disappointing. I've even started working out 2
weeks ago to get it moving again, 3 times a week, and no dice so far. My
measurements don't appear to be moving either.

I read all the information out there on stalls and just this past Saturday
I decided to remove citric acid from my diet and see if it helps. (God, I
could use a diet 7up right now. *cry*) Already I've noticed I don't have
to pee quite so often (though I am replacing the soda I used to drink with
water, so I am still getting hydrated) and I'm not hungry quite so much.
Maybe giving up citric acid was a good thing.

I eat 2 meals a day, breakfast (2 scrambled eggs + 3 slices bacon with
coffee) and dinner (usually some meat item and a half a can of green
vegetable). Sometimes I have something in between meals, a atkins bar, or
a slim jim. I also take a multivitamin, plus fish oil and extra calcium
(mom has osteoporosis (sp)).

I really don't know what else I can do. It's getting very frustrating to
see the scale staying the same, or even moving up a pound. I know some of
it could be water, but it still bogs me down. I wouldn't go back to
regular carb eating because I could practically feel myself getting fat
after a high carb meal, but it's still frustrating.

Deaana

This is a pretty normal pattern, the early weight loss is mostly water, then
your body seems to pause to adjust. It really doesn't look to me like you
are eating enough, can't really tell because you don't indicate the quantity
for dinner. I would definitely add some leafy vegetables and possibly some
fat, it doesn't look like you are getting much besides the bacon. Mainly,
just have patience and stick to the plan, weight loss is not linear.

In news:PzJod.48051$GN4.10074@okepread02,
Deaana <[email hidden]> stated
| Hi there folks. I'm new to this newsgroup and I was hoping to get a
| little encouragement.
|
| See, I started Atkins (for the 2nd time) on October 1. It worked
| great the first month, I lost 10 pounds (going for about 35 more) but
| now it's seemed to peter out. The last 3 weeks I haven't lost
| anything, it's just kind of hovering. Quite disappointing. I've
| even started working out 2 weeks ago to get it moving again, 3 times
| a week, and no dice so far. My measurements don't appear to be
| moving either.
|
| I read all the information out there on stalls and just this past
| Saturday I decided to remove citric acid from my diet and see if it
| helps. (God, I could use a diet 7up right now. *cry*) Already I've
| noticed I don't have to pee quite so often (though I am replacing the
| soda I used to drink with water, so I am still getting hydrated) and
| I'm not hungry quite so much. Maybe giving up citric acid was a good
| thing.
|
| I eat 2 meals a day, breakfast (2 scrambled eggs + 3 slices bacon with
| coffee) and dinner (usually some meat item and a half a can of green
| vegetable). Sometimes I have something in between meals, a atkins
| bar, or a slim jim. I also take a multivitamin, plus fish oil and
| extra calcium (mom has osteoporosis (sp)).
|
| I really don't know what else I can do. It's getting very frustrating
| to see the scale staying the same, or even moving up a pound. I know
| some of it could be water, but it still bogs me down. I wouldn't go
| back to regular carb eating because I could practically feel myself
| getting fat after a high carb meal, but it's still frustrating.
|
| Deaana

More data needed.

I like to make sure one is not a 90 pound anorexic before offering ideas for
weightloss.

Try: http://www.FitDay.com

"Deaana" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:PzJod.48051$GN4.10074@okepread02...

Quoted message said:

Hi there folks. I'm new to this newsgroup and I was hoping to get a
little encouragement.

See, I started Atkins (for the 2nd time) on October 1. It worked great
the first month, I lost 10 pounds (going for about 35 more) but now it's
seemed to peter out. The last 3 weeks I haven't lost anything, it's
just kind of hovering. Quite disappointing. I've even started working
out 2 weeks ago to get it moving again, 3 times a week, and no dice so
far. My measurements don't appear to be moving either.

I read all the information out there on stalls and just this past
Saturday I decided to remove citric acid from my diet and see if it
helps. (God, I could use a diet 7up right now. *cry*) Already I've
noticed I don't have to pee quite so often (though I am replacing the
soda I used to drink with water, so I am still getting hydrated) and I'm
not hungry quite so much. Maybe giving up citric acid was a good thing.

I eat 2 meals a day, breakfast (2 scrambled eggs + 3 slices bacon with
coffee) and dinner (usually some meat item and a half a can of green
vegetable). Sometimes I have something in between meals, a atkins bar,
or a slim jim. I also take a multivitamin, plus fish oil and extra
calcium (mom has osteoporosis (sp)).

I really don't know what else I can do. It's getting very frustrating
to see the scale staying the same, or even moving up a pound. I know
some of it could be water, but it still bogs me down. I wouldn't go
back to regular carb eating because I could practically feel myself
getting fat after a high carb meal, but it's still frustrating.

Deaana

"Deaana" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I eat 2 meals a day, breakfast (2 scrambled eggs + 3 slices bacon with
coffee) and dinner (usually some meat item and a half a can of green
vegetable). Sometimes I have something in between meals, a atkins bar, or
a slim jim. I also take a multivitamin, plus fish oil and extra calcium
(mom has osteoporosis (sp)).

Your veggie intake looks a bit on the low side. Could you add a green salad
for lunch, instead of the bar?

Nicky.

--
HbA1c 10.5/6.4/<6 Weight 95/79/72
1g Metformin, 75ug Thyroxine
T2 DX 05/2004

the 10 lbs loss you managed to lose may not be due entirely to your effort,
there could things that has happened within that month which are out of your
control but have helped you in losing weight. sometimes we lose more, sometimes
we lose less, and sometimes just seeing that I'm not putting on weight is good
enough encouragement for me. may be it's just one of those month where you try
to sustain the loss your have managed in the past month before you keep on losing.

Deaana said:

Hi there folks. I'm new to this newsgroup and I was hoping to get a
little encouragement.

See, I started Atkins (for the 2nd time) on October 1. It worked great
the first month, I lost 10 pounds (going for about 35 more) but now it's
seemed to peter out. The last 3 weeks I haven't lost anything, it's
just kind of hovering. Quite disappointing. I've even started working
out 2 weeks ago to get it moving again, 3 times a week, and no dice so
far. My measurements don't appear to be moving either.

I read all the information out there on stalls and just this past
Saturday I decided to remove citric acid from my diet and see if it
helps. (God, I could use a diet 7up right now. *cry*) Already I've
noticed I don't have to pee quite so often (though I am replacing the
soda I used to drink with water, so I am still getting hydrated) and I'm
not hungry quite so much. Maybe giving up citric acid was a good thing.

I eat 2 meals a day, breakfast (2 scrambled eggs + 3 slices bacon with
coffee) and dinner (usually some meat item and a half a can of green
vegetable). Sometimes I have something in between meals, a atkins bar,
or a slim jim. I also take a multivitamin, plus fish oil and extra
calcium (mom has osteoporosis (sp)).

I really don't know what else I can do. It's getting very frustrating
to see the scale staying the same, or even moving up a pound. I know
some of it could be water, but it still bogs me down. I wouldn't go
back to regular carb eating because I could practically feel myself
getting fat after a high carb meal, but it's still frustrating.

Deaana

Deaana said:

I really don't know what else I can do.

exercise.

Deaana,

I had stalled as well and someone suggested the following and it worked:

1- Start sipping on green tea. And instead of having coffee, take green
tea.
This tea improves metabolism and has lots of health benefits. Read here
on it:

http://thyroid.about.com/cs/dietweightloss/a/greentea.htm

2- Take the 1-A-Day smarcarb multivitamin (instead) as it contains
high Biotin and no iron (important). Biotin helps the body in
converting fats
into energy. Read on it at:

http://www.oneaday.com/whatsnew/carb.shtml

Also, make sure you are staying in Ketosis and some crab foods
are not sneaking in on you. Test yourself every morning.

I hope this helps, good luck.

-J

The tea tens to improve your
"Deaana" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:PzJod.48051$GN4.10074@okepread02...

Quoted message said:

Hi there folks. I'm new to this newsgroup and I was hoping to get a
little encouragement.

See, I started Atkins (for the 2nd time) on October 1. It worked great
the first month, I lost 10 pounds (going for about 35 more) but now it's
seemed to peter out. The last 3 weeks I haven't lost anything, it's
just kind of hovering. Quite disappointing. I've even started working
out 2 weeks ago to get it moving again, 3 times a week, and no dice so
far. My measurements don't appear to be moving either.

I read all the information out there on stalls and just this past
Saturday I decided to remove citric acid from my diet and see if it
helps. (God, I could use a diet 7up right now. *cry*) Already I've
noticed I don't have to pee quite so often (though I am replacing the
soda I used to drink with water, so I am still getting hydrated) and I'm
not hungry quite so much. Maybe giving up citric acid was a good thing.

I eat 2 meals a day, breakfast (2 scrambled eggs + 3 slices bacon with
coffee) and dinner (usually some meat item and a half a can of green
vegetable). Sometimes I have something in between meals, a atkins bar,
or a slim jim. I also take a multivitamin, plus fish oil and extra
calcium (mom has osteoporosis (sp)).

I really don't know what else I can do. It's getting very frustrating
to see the scale staying the same, or even moving up a pound. I know
some of it could be water, but it still bogs me down. I wouldn't go
back to regular carb eating because I could practically feel myself
getting fat after a high carb meal, but it's still frustrating.

Deaana

Deaana said:

I eat 2 meals a day, breakfast (2 scrambled eggs + 3 slices bacon with
coffee) and dinner (usually some meat item and a half a can of green
vegetable). Sometimes I have something in between meals, a atkins bar,
or a slim jim. I also take a multivitamin, plus fish oil and extra
calcium (mom has osteoporosis (sp)).

Try eating five meals a day (it speeds up the metabolism), and more food---good
meats and veggies, no Atkins bars or processed foods. It sounds like you've
slowed down your metabolism because your calorie intake is too low.

Do you keep track of your nutrient intake---how many calories, carb grams,
protein grams, fat grams per day? FitDay has an excellent program to help you
track those values, and it will keep you eating the proper amounts of the proper
things.

Also, drink tons of water. It really helps mobilize the fat.

..:. Craig

I want to thank you all for the help. I've set myself up for a fitday
account and I hope to be able to provide better information next time I
post.

I will try to follow what you all say, but collectively I think you've
said every possible answer :-). Eat more, eat less, eat the same and
hold to the path. Hopefully once I get my fitday stuff up and running
for a bit I'll clear it up that I'm not a 90 pound anorexic. Honest.

Green tea doesn't taste very good to me, but I do have a supplement of
green tea I was hoping would help. I don't like One-a-day because they
don't provide as much as centrum, but I do take a seperate biotin to
help out.

I will try to exercise more, but I am not real fond of it.

Thanks for all the help guys. :-)

Deaana

:
: I will try to exercise more, but I am not real fond of it.
:
: Thanks for all the help guys. :-)
:
: Deaana

The secret to exercising is to find something that turns into a passion for
you. For me, it's swimming and cycling. When you find that passion, then
doing it is not a chore you have to find time to do. Try riding a bicycle.
It takes you back to your childhood and makes you feel free as a bird.

Pat in TX

Deaana said:

Hi there folks. I'm new to this newsgroup and I was hoping to get a
little encouragement.

See, I started Atkins (for the 2nd time) on October 1. It worked great
the first month, I lost 10 pounds (going for about 35 more) but now it's
seemed to peter out. The last 3 weeks I haven't lost anything, it's
just kind of hovering. Quite disappointing. I've even started working
out 2 weeks ago to get it moving again, 3 times a week, and no dice so
far. My measurements don't appear to be moving either.

I read all the information out there on stalls and just this past
Saturday I decided to remove citric acid from my diet and see if it
helps. (God, I could use a diet 7up right now. *cry*) Already I've
noticed I don't have to pee quite so often (though I am replacing the
soda I used to drink with water, so I am still getting hydrated) and I'm
not hungry quite so much. Maybe giving up citric acid was a good thing.

I eat 2 meals a day, breakfast (2 scrambled eggs + 3 slices bacon with
coffee) and dinner (usually some meat item and a half a can of green
vegetable). Sometimes I have something in between meals, a atkins bar,
or a slim jim. I also take a multivitamin, plus fish oil and extra
calcium (mom has osteoporosis (sp)).

I really don't know what else I can do.

Do what Atkins SAYS to do after the first two weeks on Phase I, move
on to Phase II. Quite a people have found the stall breaks with
increased carbs. Carbs are not evil, they are an absolutely necessary
part of the diet and Induction is eating intentionally too low for the
body. Start adding carbs.

I consider how succesful I am on low-carb to be an indicator that I am
just a person heading towards diabetes, so the way I eat now has to be
the way I eat for life. Consider moving towards an ideal of eating
that you can sustain forever, not diet for now. That will mean finding
a manageable level of carbs.

Quoted message said:

It's getting very frustrating
to see the scale staying the same, or even moving up a pound. I know
some of it could be water, but it still bogs me down. I wouldn't go
back to regular carb eating because I could practically feel myself
getting fat after a high carb meal, but it's still frustrating.

Deaana

DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
350/267/Nov-262/225
Atkins since Jan 12, 2004
Maint. not counting (CCLL=50-60)

Deaana said:

See, I started Atkins (for the 2nd time) on October 1. It worked great
the first month, I lost 10 pounds (going for about 35 more) but now it's
seemed to peter out.

Explain to my again how losing 10 pounds is a problem. Be sure
to reference Dr A's official definition of a stall in your
explanation. Use small words because I can be extremely dense
when it comes to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
solely for the purpose of self sabotage.

Quoted message said:

The last 3 weeks I haven't lost anything, it's
just kind of hovering.

Have you read Dr A's official definition of a stall? You are
not even stalled.

Quoted message said:

Quite disappointing.

Sure. Success sucks, doesn't it? No good excuse for self
sabotage so you have to pretend. Hint - STOP IT THIS
INSTANT! NEVER deny real success.

Quoted message said:

I eat 2 meals a day, breakfast (2 scrambled eggs + 3 slices bacon with
coffee) and dinner (usually some meat item and a half a can of green
vegetable).

Have you considered following the directions? I know your
response so I'll address it now: You are about to go through the
book and quote to me the line where it says you are allowed to
stay low. That's not following the directions. That's searching
the book for excuses to not follow the directions. It also ignores
the long list of qualifying questions later in the paragraph. The
list of qualifying questions included if it is still working. Hmm.

The directions say the carb quota during Induction is 20, and that
Induction lasts 14 days. Then OWL starts at 25 for a week, 30 for
a week and so on. Did you really think that Dr A designed that
process for fun and that he never even thought that he should try
just staying low? He tried it and the entire process works better
no matter that the entire process isn't obvious.

Quoted message said:

... a atkins bar ...

Probably the number one staller. Doesn't appear that you have
read anywhere but the book. For that matter staying at 20 is
well into the top reasons that people stall.

Quoted message said:

I really don't know what else I can do.

The entire plan.

Induction is NOT Atkins. Induction is the first 14 days of
Atkins. Seriously, increase your carbs. Doesn't matter that
you don't believe it's the right thing to do. It was put
into the book for reasons.

Induction worked fine for you. Step out in faith and try the
rest of the plan. The part where you follow the actual instructions
without looking for justifications to stay in the part that has
stopped working.

Deaana said:

See, I started Atkins (for the 2nd time) on October 1. It worked great
the first month, I lost 10 pounds (going for about 35 more) but now it's
seemed to peter out.

Explain to my again how losing 10 pounds is a problem. Be sure
to reference Dr A's official definition of a stall in your
explanation. Use small words because I can be extremely dense
when it comes to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
solely for the purpose of self sabotage.

Quoted message said:

The last 3 weeks I haven't lost anything, it's
just kind of hovering.

Have you read Dr A's official definition of a stall? You are
not even stalled.

Quoted message said:

Quite disappointing.

Sure. Success sucks, doesn't it? No good excuse for self
sabotage so you have to pretend. Hint - STOP IT THIS
INSTANT! NEVER deny real success.

Quoted message said:

I eat 2 meals a day, breakfast (2 scrambled eggs + 3 slices bacon with
coffee) and dinner (usually some meat item and a half a can of green
vegetable).

Have you considered following the directions? I know your
response so I'll address it now: You are about to go through the
book and quote to me the line where it says you are allowed to
stay low. That's not following the directions. That's searching
the book for excuses to not follow the directions. It also ignores
the long list of qualifying questions later in the paragraph. The
list of qualifying questions included if it is still working. Hmm.

The directions say the carb quota during Induction is 20, and that
Induction lasts 14 days. Then OWL starts at 25 for a week, 30 for
a week and so on. Did you really think that Dr A designed that
process for fun and that he never even thought that he should try
just staying low? He tried it and the entire process works better
no matter that the entire process isn't obvious.

Quoted message said:

... a atkins bar ...

Probably the number one staller. Doesn't appear that you have
read anywhere but the book. For that matter staying at 20 is
well into the top reasons that people stall.

Quoted message said:

I really don't know what else I can do.

The entire plan.

Induction is NOT Atkins. Induction is the first 14 days of
Atkins. Seriously, increase your carbs. Doesn't matter that
you don't believe it's the right thing to do. It was put
into the book for reasons.

Induction worked fine for you. Step out in faith and try the
rest of the plan. The part where you follow the actual instructions
without looking for justifications to stay in the part that has
stopped working.

"Deaana" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I will try to follow what you all say, but collectively I think you've
said every possible answer :-).

ROFL! Good luck finding your own path - just keep on keeping on, and I'm
sure you'll win!

Nicky.

--
HbA1c 10.5/6.4/<6 Weight 95/79/72
1g Metformin, 75ug Thyroxine
T2 DX 05/2004

Quoted message said:

Your veggie intake looks a bit on the low side. Could you add a green salad
for lunch, instead of the bar?

And I'd add some fatty dressing, cheese and/or nuts to that salad while you're
at it. Not enough fat in your diet IMHO!

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 5'7" 265/159/140
& hubby- 6' 310/188/180
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lcer09/my_photos

In message <[email hidden]>, Doug
Freyburger <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

For that matter staying at 20 is
well into the top reasons that people stall.

Agreed; this was my experience too. I wish I had some idea of why,
though. Do you have any idea why?
--
Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat

I have not been on here forever but have now lost in between 50 and 60
pounds on "atkins" or low carb. One thing that I reallly crave is salt so I
have been eating nuts quite a bit... find something that you actually like
the taste of, for me it was spicy peanuts, for you it might be almonds or
something... Try just eating tuna and mayo or some other canned fish and
mayo... you may be not getting enough fat... The atkins bars are ok but...
maybe try to keep them for emergencies and stick to "real food"

As for exercise... do you have a walkman or mp3 player?? I find I really go
for the gusto if I have music, if not I am slugging along thinking about my
life and not enjoying myself at all.......

also take a break and quit weighting and measuring!!!! try to just go meal
by meal and exercise by exercise, and congratulate yourself for having
"clean days" and add those up instead of pounds, then by the end of a couple
weeks

Jennifer
235/175(?)/145

"Deaana" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I want to thank you all for the help. I've set myself up for a fitday
account and I hope to be able to provide better information next time I
post.

I will try to follow what you all say, but collectively I think you've
said every possible answer :-). Eat more, eat less, eat the same and hold
to the path. Hopefully once I get my fitday stuff up and running for a
bit I'll clear it up that I'm not a 90 pound anorexic. Honest.

Green tea doesn't taste very good to me, but I do have a supplement of
green tea I was hoping would help. I don't like One-a-day because they
don't provide as much as centrum, but I do take a seperate biotin to help
out.

I will try to exercise more, but I am not real fond of it.

Thanks for all the help guys. :-)

Deaana

Hi guys.

Just checking in to let you know that yes, I am doing better. Thank you all
for your inspiration and advice. I got fitday pc (it seemed better than
updating both the atkins site and the fitday site, and I can use it
offline), and started to go easier on myself on carbs, moving them up a bit.
(I even had some cherry pie on thanksgiving, woot!)

I'm still not having citric acid and it appears to help, I've lost 2 lbs
since my first post, so I'm doing something right. I thought about it the
other day and the first time I did Atkins I stalled too, which is why I got
off. I was sucking down diet coke like crazy then, so it was probably the
citric acid then too.

I'm still exercising and finding it's getting easier and I'm finding myself
actually wanting to go to the gym, which is rare, hehe. I am increasing my
difficulty level slowly, and finding the accomplishment satisfying. :-)

Thanks again guys for talking sense into me.

--
Deaana
178/166/135 - 5' 4"
Atkins since Oct 1, 2004

:
: I'm still not having citric acid and it appears to help, I've lost 2 lbs
: since my first post, so I'm doing something right. I thought about it the
: other day and the first time I did Atkins I stalled too, which is why I
got
: off. I was sucking down diet coke like crazy then, so it was probably the
: citric acid then too.
:
: I'm still exercising and finding it's getting easier and I'm finding
myself
: actually wanting to go to the gym, which is rare, hehe. I am increasing my
: difficulty level slowly, and finding the accomplishment satisfying. :-)
:
: Thanks again guys for talking sense into me.
:
: --
: Deaana

Some people have difficulty losing weight with the aspartame in the diet
colas. Have you tried eliminating that?

Do you have an exercise ball? One of those huge ones? You could do some
exercises on it while watching TV, and that helps you to do something
instead of just sitting passively.

Pat in TX