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Oh so you dont have a camcorder? You have a digital camera?


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isaac steiner wrote:
> Oh so you dont have a camcorder? You have a digital camera?



no i have a camcorder and i dont have a digital camers! lol i have a pv
gs 320. Sometimes i say camera caus its shorter to type


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ok thats fine


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Spoonthumb wrote:
> hard drive compresses footy destroying the quality.


gkmac wrote:
> (Mini) DV compresses footage as well.


Spoonthumb wrote:
> not as bad as a hard drive camera does

DV compresses each and every frame individually, rather like an
individual JPEG for every frame. Hard drive cameras use MPEG2, which
only stores two frames a second like that, the rest being just the
changes between each frame.

Just because MPEG2 can record footage into a smaller space with that
technique doesn't make it more "bad". MPEG2 is good enough for DVDs;
look how brilliant they can be. And HDV can still record sixty minutes
of high-definition footage on a standard DV tape, simply by using MPEG2
instead of DV.

The issue is they some cheaper editing software can be fiddly editing
MPEG2 footage, since individual frames cannot be isolated easily.


I did consider a hard drive based camera after a borrowed camera chewed
up a brand new tape, but their battery life seems rather pathetic
compared to DV. And you can't just swap in a new drive should it get
full while you're out and about.


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There are pros and cons to both HD capture and mini DV capture. I have
always felt that the pros of mini dv outway the cons of hardrive. Tho
It seems the digital video induststry is moving towards harddrive
capture or other digital capture pushing recording to tape out of the
picute. This is not something that is happening over night, although I
do expect mini DV prices to steadily rise.


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agentQ wrote:
> There are pros and cons to both HD capture and mini DV capture. I have
> always felt that the pros of mini dv outway the cons of hardrive. Tho
> It seems the digital video induststry is moving towards harddrive
> capture or other digital capture pushing recording to tape out of the
> picute. This is not something that is happening over night, although I
> do expect mini DV prices to steadily rise.



Hardrives are outdated...solid state cards are where things are going


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fractured_frames wrote:
> @Spoon thumb
> can you take a photo of your camera with the fish eye on please:)
> thanks



bump haha


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Brian MacKenzie wrote:
> Hardrives are outdated...solid state cards are where things are going



I was going to group that in with hardrives and figured they were
ehough different that I should just keep my mouth shut.
How big are the cards coming? You can get belts that hold a bunch
right?


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fractured_frames wrote:
> bump haha



best pic i could get
[image:
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg289/spoonthumb88/IMGA0075.jpg]


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what do you guys think of this camera

http://tinyurl.com/2vkcke


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expensive haha


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Is this any good?

http://tinyurl.com/2wrqos

Isaac


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isaac steiner wrote:
> Is this any good?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2wrqos
>
> Isaac


i read a review from a skater on bhphotovideo who said he hated it b/c
is let dirt in very easily and poped off the lens. and skating and uni
film requirments are similar so i think i would "dissreccomend" it. i
was going to get it but decided to get a screw on lens.


i will try to get that shot of my uni, but i dont have a youtube
account, but i will try and set one up b4 i go away on vacation.


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oneisenough wrote:
> i read a review from a skater on bhphotovideo who said he hated it b/c
> is let dirt in very easily and poped off the lens. and skating and uni
> film requirments are similar so i think i would "dissreccomend" it. i
> was going to get it but decided to get a screw on lens.
>
>
> i will try to get that shot of my uni, but i dont have a youtube
> account, but i will try and set one up b4 i go away on vacation.




Hmmm I see...well....I dont know....and what size of lens do you have?
Could you try to find me a cheapish lens for 27mm?

Isaac


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oneisenough wrote:
> i read a review from a skater on bhphotovideo who said he hated it b/c
> is let dirt in very easily and poped off the lens. and skating and uni
> film requirments are similar so i think i would "dissreccome



Why in the world would you be putting your camera or lens in the
dirt.... I could be wrong, but it seams to me a pretty easy thing to
keep clean. If that were the only downside to the lens it should be
pretty easy to work around.;)


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agentQ wrote:
> Why in the world would you be putting your camera or lens in the
> dirt.... I could be wrong, but it seams to me a pretty easy thing to
> keep clean. If that were the only downside to the lens it should be
> pretty easy to work around.;)




i've had screw on lenses smash off my camera and go rolling across
skatepark ramps :)

funny the stuff that lenses are exposed to :eek:


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agentQ wrote:
> Why in the world would you be putting your camera or lens in the
> dirt.... I could be wrong, but it seams to me a pretty easy thing to
> keep clean. If that were the only downside to the lens it should be
> pretty easy to work around.;)


he said dust would get on the inside of the lens very easikly and
needed frequent cleaning.'FOUND IT! ' (http://tinyurl.com/395m7t) its
the first review.


edit: you need to click the "Read Reviews" mnu to see it, the link
doesnt go to specific menus.


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isaac steiner wrote:
> Hmmm I see...well....I dont know....and what size of lens do you have?
> Could you try to find me a cheapish lens for 27mm?
>
> Isaac


'this is the exact on i have. i bought it locally and not of the net
but i did get it from best buy. ' (http://tinyurl.com/yt6dga)i will get
that vid for you soon, hopefully 2morrow (no work)


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oneisenough wrote:
> 'this is the exact on i have. i bought it locally and not of the net but
> i did get it from best buy. ' (http://tinyurl.com/yt6dga)i will get
> that vid for you soon, hopefully 2morrow (no work)



Would you be able to post a sample of a video that you filmed with it?
I am also in the market for a wide angle lense. I was thinking the
kenko fisheye, but would you guys recomend a different wide angle lense
instead?


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Matt_V wrote:
> Would you be able to post a sample of a video that you filmed with it?
> I am also in the market for a wide angle lense. I was thinking the
> kenko fisheye, but would you guys recomend a different wide angle lense
> instead?


thats at im talking about when i said id have the vid up. Isaac asked
me to film an angle w/ and w/o the lens to see the diff. i may get a
youtube account and make such a vid 2morrow, or monday. i will get it
as soon as possible and will post it in here.


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