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Well Kim my darling, if you are truly here to learn
about

alternatives

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the only thing you'll learn about alternatives from
Ilsa(whoever he

really

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is? Nidiffer? Weedkiller? etc?) is that no alternatives
at all work. Ask

him

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about alternatives for your mild case of arthritis if
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me?
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I'm hoping SOMEONE makes some suggestions regarding the
questions I've asked: My friend's diabetes and my own
hypothyroidism.

As for an alt regarding my arthritis, I've tried
Glucosamine 500mgs and Chondroitin 400mgs but so far I
can't see where they've helped any after 8 or 9 months. I
don't take any other painkillers because it's really quite
mild.

My BIL had bad knees, always painful, which resulted in his
retirement as a Captain from the NYPD. He went on
Glucosamine/Chondroitin and, after *2* years, began to see a
significant difference in how his knees felt. He left the NY
area at the same time, lives in FL, and is head of security
at a hospital. He credits both a change in lifestyle and the
use of G/C to his improvement.

He is also 59.

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Getting Health Ins to pay for Chelation Therapy may not be
possible unless it's an accepted part of treatment for
diabetics. Because of the foot he can no longer work and
money is becoming an issue.

Kim, if anyone goes for chelation, then they should ask the
seller several questions:

1. Ask the seller to provide arteriography showing arterial
narrowing prior to chelation, and arteriography
subsequent to chelation. These studies should be
performed by an independent lab.

2. Ask the seller to provide pre and post Doppler studies of
the same patients.

If neither are forthcoming, run like hell.

BTW, insurance often does not pay for useless treatments.
They do not want to be on the financial hook for years
without an improvement in the insured.

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Getting Health Ins to pay for Chelation Therapy may not be
possible unless it's an accepted part of treatment for
diabetics. Because of the foot he can no longer work and
money is becoming an issue.

Kim, if anyone goes for chelation, then they should ask the
seller several questions:

1. Ask the seller to provide arteriography showing arterial
narrowing prior to chelation, and arteriography
subsequent to chelation. These studies should be
performed by an independent lab.

2. Ask the seller to provide pre and post Doppler studies of
the same patients.

If neither are forthcoming, run like hell.

BTW, insurance often does not pay for useless treatments.
They do not want to be on the financial hook for years
without an improvement in the insured.

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I guess you have never had Sushi (which is, IMNSHO, the
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bait).

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No I haven't. I doubt it would be a popular dish where I
live. Everyone here eats batter dipped fried fish when
they eat fish at all.

A waste of fish (said by a boater who catches his own).

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I guess you have never had Sushi (which is, IMNSHO, the
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for

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bait).

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No I haven't. I doubt it would be a popular dish where I
live. Everyone here eats batter dipped fried fish when
they eat fish at all.

A waste of fish (said by a boater who catches his own).

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I guess you have never had Sushi (which is, IMNSHO, the
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bait).

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No I haven't. I doubt it would be a popular dish where I
live. Everyone here eats batter dipped fried fish when
they eat fish at all.

A waste of fish (said by a boater who catches his own).

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I guess you have never had Sushi (which is, IMNSHO, the
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for

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bait).

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No I haven't. I doubt it would be a popular dish where I
live. Everyone here eats batter dipped fried fish when
they eat fish at all.

A waste of fish (said by a boater who catches his own).

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I guess you have never had Sushi (which is, IMNSHO,
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for

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bait).

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No I haven't. I doubt it would be a popular dish where I
live. Everyone here eats batter dipped fried fish when
they eat fish at all.

A waste of fish (said by a boater who catches his own).

I caught a few grey snapper in the Gulf a couple weeks ago.
Tasty, but bony as all get out. (Baked with
butter/mayonnaise sauce, fresh lemon on the side.)

Mark, MD

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> the Japanese

word

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for

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I live.

Everyone

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here eats batter dipped fried fish when they eat fish
at all.

A waste of fish (said by a boater who catches his own).

I caught a few grey snapper in the Gulf a couple weeks
ago. Tasty, but bony as all get out. (Baked with
butter/mayonnaise sauce, fresh lemon on the side.)

Flounder, fluke, bluefish, an occasional shark, tuna, etc.
off of Long Island, NY. I prefer baking with lemon and some
herbs, especially the bluefish.

They all suffer with Jan OCD, indicating they are
suffering from mental illness. The mentality is so
immature that none of them can use their killfilters for
Jan. This speaks for itself.

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Diabetes -- caused by repeated release of massive
amounts of insulin

which

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is brought about through the use of an high sugar
intake diet. Sugar

is

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in

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every processed food(along with scads of other savoury
stuff such as preservatives etc) and most carbonated
drinks. As a result most people

are

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getting frequent high megadoses of sugar all day long
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every

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day of their lives. As a result, their blood sugar
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high

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and

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the pancreas has to release huge amounts of insulin to
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sugar

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to normal levels. Eventually the pancreas get
exhausted and can't

produce

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the insulin anymore with the result that a diabetic
now will have to

take

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insulin injections to manage their high blood sugar
levels.

** Yes. I am aware of this. Are the alts suggesting low-
carb diets for Diabetics now? I read that some Dr's are
recommending low-carb diets as

are

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alt practitioners. Is it safe? I'm talking about the
diabetic slowing eliminating carbohydrates from their
diets while watching their blood

sugar?

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A good idea to

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prevent diabetes is to quit using these processed
foods and stop

taking

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these carbonated beverages. In the place of sugar, for
a sweetener use

a

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natural product such as Stevia but no aspartame or
other such deadly artificial sweetener's. For those
that do have diabetics a major

problem

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is

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the massive loss of vitamin's, minerals and enzymes
through the

frequent

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urination diabetic's are subjected to on a daily
basis. To prevent

this

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it

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is recommended that diabetics take massive doses of
such nutrients to replace those loss daily through
urination.

I will recommend this to him. I'm sure he is NOT taking
any supplements

at

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this time.

For those that have poor blood

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flow it is recommended that they take Chelation
therapy which has

saved

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many

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a diabetic from losing their limbs! There is much more
out there but

for

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a

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detailed explanation maybe Jan will post some diabetic
links which

will

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explain much more fully and clearly than I have done
all about what

diabetes

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is and effective treatments against it.

Getting Health Ins to pay for Chelation Therapy may not
be possible

unless

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it's an accepted part of treatment for diabetics.
Because of the foot

he

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can no longer work and money is becoming an issue.

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As for the parasites their names are Rich, Peter,
Mark, Ilsa, Hawki, Michelle, David and Probert. -rb

Would you mind my printing this post and sending it
to him?

Kim

No. Chelation is not too costly and from what I know it
works in all

cases

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of vascular circulatory diseases. It has saved many a limb
of diabetics. It's also the most effective treatment going
for heart disease but the anti-alt crowd around here will
tell you it's teetotally worthless if you will listen to
them. If you're not a plant and you really want
alternative info you'd be wise not believing the anti-Jan
crowd on this board.

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wrote

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wrote

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> > I guess you have never had Sushi (which is,
> > IMNSHO, the Japanese

word

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for
> > bait).
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> No I haven't. I doubt it would be a popular dish
> where I live.

Everyone

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> here eats batter dipped fried fish when they eat
> fish at all.

A waste of fish (said by a boater who catches his
own).

I caught a few grey snapper in the Gulf a couple weeks
ago. Tasty, but bony as all get out. (Baked with
butter/mayonnaise sauce, fresh lemon on the side.)

Flounder, fluke, bluefish, an occasional shark, tuna, etc.
off of Long Island, NY. I prefer baking with lemon and
some herbs, especially the bluefish.

Kosher!???

On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 18:42:06 -0500, "Gymmy Bob" <[email hidden]>

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Liar

Hmm. Has Gymmy been stalking Kim?? If not how on earth would
he know that she was lying?? Maybe he knows because he still
has access (to most of our dismay) to the internet.

Or maybe Gymmy went to the Jan DRew school of lying.

Aloha,

Rich

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X-No-Archive: yes

"Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
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Jan is learning net stalking tricks

=========================
I've had experience with net-stalkers before. Two in
fact. BOTH of them lost their ISP service and one is now
unable to go online at all. Both

got

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the hint that net-stalking is not a good idea.

Kim

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Mark Probert-March 9 said:

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040308215357.10197.00001071@mb-
m03.aol.com...

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As for the parasites their names are Rich, Peter,
Mark, Ilsa, Hawki, Michelle, David and Probert. -rb

ROTFLOL!!!!! Toooooooooooooo True.

Jan says it is always wrong to belittle.

Only if you're belittling Jan. If you're going after
skeptics, atheists, Catholics, or Jews, it's OK.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 03:32:02 GMT, [email hidden] (David

Wright) said:

In article
<[email hidden]>, Mark
Probert-March 9, 2004 <Mark Probert03-09-

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"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040308215357.10197.00001071@mb-
m03.aol.com...

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> As for the parasites their names are Rich, Peter,
> Mark, Ilsa, Hawki, Michelle, David and Probert. -rb

ROTFLOL!!!!! Toooooooooooooo True.

Jan says it is always wrong to belittle.

Only if you're belittling Jan.

Or any of her cronies.

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If you're going after skeptics, atheists, Catholics, or
Jews, it's OK.

Not only is it OK, it is strongly encouraged by her. How
often does she post "LOL" when one of her buddies ridicules
one of the skeptics.

But Jan is not a hypocrite. Jan does not hate Jews. Hey,
she cannot help it that all the Jews (save one) in this
newsgroup are liars and filled with hatred. She is just
telling the truth. (Satan also claims that he is telling
the truth).

Jan Drew is a loving Christian who lives by Jesus' words
"Judge not, lest you be judged".

Aloha,

Rich

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In article <[email hidden]>,

rb said:

No. Chelation is not too costly and from what I know it
works in all cases of vascular circulatory diseases.

That's the trouble with you, RB -- you don't know anything,
and it certainly doesn't work in *all* cases.

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It has saved many a limb of diabetics. It's also the most
effective treatment going for heart disease but the anti-
alt crowd around here will tell you it's teetotally
worthless if you will listen to them.

Yeah, they go dragging in their fancy "double blind tests"
as though that trumped the baseless beliefs of know-nothings
like RB. The nerve.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mark Probert-March 9 said:

"Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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"rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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Well Kim my darling, if you are truly here to learn
about

alternatives

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the only thing you'll learn about alternatives from
Ilsa(whoever he

really

Quoted message said:

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is? Nidiffer? Weedkiller? etc?) is that no alternatives
at all work. Ask

him

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about alternatives for your mild case of arthritis if
you don't believe

me?
====================
I'm hoping SOMEONE makes some suggestions regarding the
questions I've asked: My friend's diabetes and my own
hypothyroidism.

As for an alt regarding my arthritis, I've tried
Glucosamine 500mgs and Chondroitin 400mgs but so far I
can't see where they've helped any after 8 or 9
months. I don't take any other painkillers because
it's really quite
mild.

My BIL had bad knees, always painful, which resulted in his
retirement as a Captain from the NYPD. He went on
Glucosamine/Chondroitin and, after *2* years, began to see
a significant difference in how his knees felt. He left the
NY area at the same time, lives in FL, and is head of
security at a hospital. He credits both a change in
lifestyle and the use of G/C to his improvement.

My parents, who are older than 59, both use
glucosamine/chondroitin. They both found that it took some
months to show an effect, but both have derived benefit from
it. Neither has severe arthritis.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

"Mark Probert-March 9, 2004" <Mark [email hidden]> wrote
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Agreed. However, you should note that there are those who
post here that

use

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the term 'net stalker' as an offensive form of discourse
since they only desire to stifle people with whom they
disagree.

I see. Then it's not a case of REAL net-stalking but
personal disagreements.

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Jan has admitted that she complained to Yahoo about one
person, and had

his

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email account pulled. I had my email account pulled by
Hotmail, after Jan and I had a heated exchange, but, no on
eowned up to reporting it.

Yes, I have had someone recently contact my ISP, who
supposedly told him to use his killfile. After all that's
what killfiles are for. I haven't run across that man again
online. He wasn't a stalker, just someone who disagreed with
a few things I said on a posting board. He felt I didn't
deserve to be online. How DARE I disagree with him? The
nerve of me - the utter audacity!!!!! You truly meet all
kinds of weirdos online.

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Jan has also admitted contacting an employer of one person
and has yet to acknowledge that she did this to another.

This is despicable behavior. It's petty and mean spirited.

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Another poster, one of her "parasitic symbiotic enablers"
has readily acknowledged that she contacted someones wife
via email to complain about him. In that email, she seemed
to imply that there was more than a

newsgroup

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problem, if you get my drift (which I suspect you do).
That same poster

has

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threatened me with the same thing.

That tells us what kind of people they are, doesn't it?
Stooping to that level is true desperation on their part to
get their way.

Kim

Kim said:

"Mark Probert-March 9, 2004" <Mark Probert03-09-
[email hidden]> wrote in message news:G9l3c.44203> > >

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Agreed. However, you should note that there are those who
post here that

use

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the term 'net stalker' as an offensive form of discourse
since they only desire to stifle people with whom they
disagree.

I see. Then it's not a case of REAL net-stalking but
personal disagreements.

I have been confronting Jan Drew with her lies and
hypocrisy for over four years. She has desperately tried
to get me to stop confronting her including repeatedly
contacting my ISP complaining about stalking her.

Her only response is to attack me personally, lie and bear
false witness. Her favorite is that I am stalking her.
First I thought she was paranoid. I now think that she is
just an evil psychopathic liar with no conscience.

But I will continue to expose Jan Drew's lies and she cannot
stop me. If she continues to claim that she almost died of
mercury poisoning from amalgams I will post her own words
that completely debunks this claim. Jan Drew is a bigot, an
antisemite, a liar and a hypocrite. And those are her good
qualities. Her primary support in life is on mha where her
equally dysfunctional co-dependent enablers support her
psychopathy.

Aloha,

Rich

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"Mark Probert-March 9, 2004" <Mark Probert03-09-
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news:G9l3c.44203> > >

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Agreed. However, you should note that there are those
who post here that

use

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the term 'net stalker' as an offensive form of discourse
since they only desire to stifle people with whom they
disagree.

I see. Then it's not a case of REAL net-stalking but
personal disagreements.

Exactly! They use it as a means of argument when they run
out of facts.

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Jan has admitted that she complained to Yahoo about one
person, and had

his

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email account pulled. I had my email account pulled by
Hotmail, after

Jan

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and I had a heated exchange, but, no on eowned up to
reporting it.

Yes, I have had someone recently contact my ISP, who
supposedly told him

to

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use his killfile. After all that's what killfiles are for.
I haven't run across that man again online. He wasn't a
stalker, just someone who disagreed with a few things I
said on a posting board. He felt I didn't deserve to be
online. How DARE I disagree with him? The nerve of me -

the

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utter audacity!!!!! You truly meet all kinds of
weirdos online.

Yes, and I have listed some of them here. ALL o fthem hav
emade comments where it is clear that they would prefer this
group to be the A-men chorus of alt medicine and not hear a
word of dissent.

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Jan has also admitted contacting an employer of one
person and has yet

to

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acknowledge that she did this to another.

This is despicable behavior. It's petty and mean spirited.

Yes, it is. And, she will probably tellme that I lied when I
said it, but his name is Joel Eichen.

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Another poster, one of her "parasitic symbiotic
enablers" has readily acknowledged that she contacted
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about

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him. In that email, she seemed to imply that there was
more than a

newsgroup

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problem, if you get my drift (which I suspect you do).
That same poster

has

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threatened me with the same thing.

That tells us what kind of people they are, doesn't it?
Stooping to that level is true desperation on their part
to get their way.

Yep.

And, you are in BIG trouble for agreeing with me. They also
use McCarthyistic guilt by association. Jan likes to insist
that others comment on her fights with Rich, et al. When one
does not take that bait, you are guilty of whatever by
association.

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<[email hidden]>, Mark
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"Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Well Kim my darling, if you are truly here to
> learn about

alternatives

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> the only thing you'll learn about alternatives from
> Ilsa(whoever he

really

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> is? Nidiffer? Weedkiller? etc?) is that no
> alternatives at all work.

Ask

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him
> about alternatives for your mild case of arthritis if
> you don't

believe

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me?
====================
I'm hoping SOMEONE makes some suggestions regarding the
questions I've asked: My friend's diabetes and my own
hypothyroidism.

As for an alt regarding my arthritis, I've tried
Glucosamine 500mgs and Chondroitin 400mgs but so far I
can't see where they've helped any

after 8

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or 9 months. I don't take any other painkillers because
it's really

quite

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mild.

My BIL had bad knees, always painful, which resulted in
his retirement as

a

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Captain from the NYPD. He went on Glucosamine/Chondroitin
and, after *2* years, began to see a significant
difference in how his knees felt. He

left

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the NY area at the same time, lives in FL, and is head of
security at a hospital. He credits both a change in
lifestyle and the use of G/C to his improvement.

My parents, who are older than 59, both use
glucosamine/chondroitin. They both found that it took some
months to show an effect, but both have derived benefit
from it. Neither has severe arthritis.

BIL began feeling some effects after many months and
continued. However, the change in lifestyle, specifically
not working as a NYPD captain at a non-desk job, really
helped and sped the process along. I had a chat last night
with him, and asked him how his knees are. He said that he
only thinks of them when taking his pills in the AM. His new
job is more desk, and he sure does not have to run through
the streets of NY like he did.