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  1. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Kim said:


    "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Gymmy, that lady is top flight in every way and they know
    it. but what can we expect of them? They are paid to do
    this(debunk non conventional medicine). Paid
    shills.....that's what they are.


    ========================
    Who is paying them (either side) and where is the proof
    anyone is being paid? What are you basing this accusation
    on? Even the technicians on the MS Newsgroups are not paid.

    The accusation that one's adversary is a paid agent is a long-
    standing one here on m.h.a. In general, it's the more loonie
    pro-alts who accuse the skeptics of being paid shills for
    the Evil Pharmaceutical Cartel (or the AMA, or the
    Rotarians, or you pick your favorite). It's actually gotten
    to be a fairly popular joke among the skeptics.

    It's at least as likely that someone like Scudamore, or Jan
    Drew, could be accused of being a paid agent, hired to make
    the alt crowd look bad. (You'll have to admit that if they
    *were* being paid, they'd be earning it.)

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  2. "Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Ilsa9.1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040305131211.29604.00000900@mb-

    Quoted message said:

    Truer words have never been spoken. Many come to MHA not
    to discuss the


    pros &

    Quoted message said:

    cons of Health Alternatives. Many to find unconditional
    support for


    their

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ritualistic health practices. This group displays
    highly rigid


    thinking,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    bigotry, below average formal education, and paranoia.

    Yes, I'm getting that "message."

    Their core tenent of

    Quoted message said:

    faith is that "You're either with us or against us".
    They accuse anyone


    who

    Quoted message said:

    asks basic questions about efficacy or dares to take a
    contrary position


    of

    Quoted message said:

    being a paid agent of a broad, sweeping, global pharm-
    chem conspiracy.

    I can assure everyone I am not being PAID by either side
    to be here.

    According to AltLogic, you just proved you are.

    I was

    Quoted message said:

    just curious about what alternatives people may be using
    these days. I myself suffer from mild osteoarthritis and
    hypothyroidism. I was


    wondering

    Quoted message said:

    what may have been proven helpful other than the Levoxyl I
    take. I don't take anything for the arthritis since it is
    so mild.

    Quoted message said:

    That group is very vocal and a detriment to those who
    wish to discuss


    more

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    substantial, plausible, and practical matters.

    I understand.....

    Kim

  3. "Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Gymmy, that lady is top flight in every way and they
    know it. but what


    can

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    we expect of them? They are paid to do this(debunk non
    conventional medicine). Paid shills.....that's what
    they are.


    ========================
    Who is paying them (either side) and where is the proof
    anyone is being paid? What are you basing this
    accusation on?

    Idle speculation.

    Even the technicians on the

    Quoted message said:

    MS Newsgroups are not paid.

    Kim

  4. "Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    <Rich.@.> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:11:31 -0600, "Kim" <spam-me-not@no-
    spam.com>

    Quoted message said:

    Excuse me, but if the stated University doesn't give
    such a degree, she


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    lying. If she is lying about her degree what else may
    she be lying


    about?
    =================

    Quoted message said:

    You don't understand Kim. Alternative practitioners are
    allowed to
    lie. CAbot could say she is an MD. Hulda Clark can say
    she has the cure for all cancers. But you are quite
    correct that her credibility is very suspect. That
    is why I try to demonstrate the lies of some people
    who post here. You cannot believe those who
    repeatedly lie. And the liars don't care about
    other liars as long as the lies advance their
    agenda.

    Aloha,

    rich


    ====================
    I do remember Mrs. Clarks unsubstantiated cancer cure
    claims from some


    years

    Quoted message said:

    back. As I recall she was claiming she had a machine that
    zapped some


    type

    Quoted message said:

    of cancer causing parasites. Were they liver flukes?

    You recall good.

    Has anything new

    Quoted message said:

    been learned about said flukes?

    Yes. Recent information shows that that appear only in
    Tiajuan, Mexico at her clinic. The safest way to avoid them
    is to stay away from her clinic.

    It's also my understanding no flukes were

    Quoted message said:

    discovered during autopsies of deceased cancer victims.

    Lies to advance an agenda? Yes, that happens I'm sure.

  5. "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KKOdnZBcgJhGMNfdRVn-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Gymmy, that lady is top flight in every way and they
    know it. but what


    can

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    we expect of them? They are paid to do this(debunk non
    conventional medicine). Paid shills.....that's what
    they are.


    ========================
    Who is paying them (either side) and where is the proof
    anyone is being paid? What are you basing this
    accusation on? Even the technicians on


    the

    Quoted message said:

    MS Newsgroups are not paid.

    Kim

    I have no proof.

    As i said in the past, idle speculation, and then s/h/it
    proves it:

    It is just my own personal opinion based upon the

    Quoted message said:

    precept that nobody can be so stupid so as to deny the
    efficacy of plainly efficacious treatments(such as
    chelation therapy and mercury amalgam


    removal

    Quoted message said:

    among other's), so to obstinately and obnoxiously deny the
    efficacy of


    such

    Quoted message said:

    well known and plainly efficacious alternative
    treatments(such as


    chelation

    Quoted message said:

    therapy and mercury amalgam removal among other's) one can
    only logically deduce that, again, nobody remotely
    intelligent being stupid enough to


    deny

    Quoted message said:

    the efficaciousness of such alternative treatments, they
    can only be obstinately and obnoxiously doing this because
    they are being paid to do


    so!

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    rb said:

    "Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KKOdnZBcgJhGMNfdRVn-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Gymmy, that lady is top flight in every way and they
    know it. but what


    can

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    we expect of them? They are paid to do this(debunk non
    conventional medicine). Paid shills.....that's what
    they are.


    ========================
    Who is paying them (either side) and where is the proof
    anyone is being paid? What are you basing this
    accusation on? Even the technicians on the MS Newsgroups
    are not paid.

    Quoted message said:

    I have no proof. It is just my own personal opinion
    based upon the precept that

    that you are an idiot who fails to understand that you
    could be wrong?

    Quoted message said:

    nobody can be so stupid so as to deny the efficacy of
    plainly efficacious treatments(such as chelation therapy
    and mercury amalgam removal among other's),

    Except that these aren't "plainly efficacious." Particularly
    chelation therapy, which in multiple clinical trials has
    failed to work any better than placebo. No matter how much
    you try to wish that fact away, it won't go away.

    Quoted message said:

    one can only logically deduce that, again, nobody remotely
    intelligent being stupid enough to deny the efficaciousness
    of such alternative treatments, they can only be
    obstinately and obnoxiously doing this because they are
    being paid to do so!

    You need some sort of treatment that will keep you from
    repeating yourself over and over. Oh, and a logic course
    would also be a good idea, as you clearly don't understand
    the concept at all.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  7. "Mark Probert-March 7, 2004" <Mark [email hidden]> wrote
    in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yfGdnRzeueYJOtfdRVn-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    <Rich.@.> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:11:31 -0600, "Kim" <spam-me-not@no-
    spam.com>
    >Excuse me, but if the stated University doesn't give
    >such a degree,


    she

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is

    Quoted message said:

    >lying. If she is lying about her degree what else may
    >she be lying


    about?
    =================

    Quoted message said:

    You don't understand Kim. Alternative practitioners
    are allowed to
    lie. CAbot could say she is an MD. Hulda Clark can say
    she has the cure for all cancers. But you are
    quite correct that her credibility is very
    suspect. That is why I try to demonstrate the
    lies of some people who post here. You cannot
    believe those who repeatedly lie. And the liars
    don't care about other liars as long as the lies
    advance their agenda.

    Aloha,

    rich


    ====================
    I do remember Mrs. Clarks unsubstantiated cancer cure
    claims from some


    years

    Quoted message said:

    back. As I recall she was claiming she had a machine
    that zapped some


    type

    Quoted message said:

    of cancer causing parasites. Were they liver flukes?

    You recall good.

    Has anything new

    Quoted message said:

    been learned about said flukes?

    Yes. Recent information shows that that appear only in
    Tiajuan, Mexico at her clinic. The safest way to avoid
    them is to stay away from her clinic.

    It's also my understanding no flukes were

    Quoted message said:

    discovered during autopsies of deceased cancer victims.

    Lies to advance an agenda? Yes, that happens I'm sure.

    Actually Dr. Valerie Saxon has some expelled Liver Flukes
    preserved in a jar! Nasty fair sized critters they are.
    If you want to know more about parasites you should
    contact her.

    RB

  8. X-No-Archive: yes

    <Rich.@.> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Cue Jan to go on her Andrew Kingoff rant. Just watch.

    Btw, Andrew is the guy she called a Jew Boy, posted his
    complete business address and phone number and told people
    not to do business with him.


    =====================
    That's a true insult. I see that as being equal with calling
    an African American the N word. Now you've got to be kidding
    about his business address etc.!!!!

    There sure seems to be a lot of animosity on this NG. Anyone
    posting/reading here would be afraid to mention where they
    live or even what they do for a living.

    Kim

  9. "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well Kim my darling, if you are truly here to learn about
    alternatives
    the only thing you'll learn about alternatives from
    Ilsa(whoever he really
    is? Nidiffer? Weedkiller? etc?) is that no alternatives at
    all work. Ask


    him

    Quoted message said:

    about alternatives for your mild case of arthritis if you
    don't believe


    me?
    ====================
    I'm hoping SOMEONE makes some suggestions regarding the
    questions I've asked: My friend's diabetes and my own
    hypothyroidism.

    As for an alt regarding my arthritis, I've tried Glucosamine
    500mgs and Chondroitin 400mgs but so far I can't see where
    they've helped any after 8 or 9 months. I don't take any
    other painkillers because it's really quite
    mild.

    Kim

  10. Kim said:


    "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well Kim my darling, if you are truly here to learn about
    alternatives
    the only thing you'll learn about alternatives from
    Ilsa(whoever he really
    is? Nidiffer? Weedkiller? etc?) is that no alternatives at
    all work. Ask


    him

    Quoted message said:

    about alternatives for your mild case of arthritis if you
    don't believe


    me?
    ====================
    I'm hoping SOMEONE makes some suggestions regarding the
    questions I've asked: My friend's diabetes and my own
    hypothyroidism.

    Is this insulin dependent diabetes?? IF it is adult onset
    diabetes you may want to do some research on cinnamon. I
    don't have ready references but believe that cinnamon may
    help increase insulin sensitivity and lower blood sugar in
    those who have adult onset diabetes.

    Not sure what you can do for your hypothyroidism other than
    to take replacement thyroid hormone and have your thyroid
    function test monitored periodically. Are you hypothyroid
    due to treatment for hyperthyroidism?? If not do they know
    what is causing it??

    Aloha,

    Rich

    -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------

    The best defense to logic is ignorance

  11. "Mark Probert-March 7, 2004" <Mark [email hidden]> wrote
    in message news:saI2c.15785>

    Quoted message said:

    Yes. Recent information shows that that appear only in
    Tiajuan, Mexico at her clinic. The safest way to avoid
    them is to stay away from her clinic.


    ==========================
    Some of the posts here are actually funny! I can't believe
    what goes on on this NG.

    I do believe the last place I would go for any type of
    medical care is Mexico. From when I've seen on TV they have
    almost no regulations there re' medical clinics and who is
    working in them, cleanliness, licensing etc.

    Kim

  12. "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have no proof. It is just my own personal opinion
    based upon the precept that nobody can be so stupid so
    as to deny the efficacy of plainly efficacious
    treatments(such as chelation therapy and mercury
    amalgam


    removal

    Quoted message said:

    among other's), so to obstinately and obnoxiously deny the
    efficacy of


    such

    Quoted message said:

    well known and plainly efficacious alternative
    treatments(such as


    chelation

    Quoted message said:

    therapy and mercury amalgam removal among other's) one can
    only logically deduce that, again, nobody remotely
    intelligent being stupid enough to


    deny

    Quoted message said:

    the efficaciousness of such alternative treatments, they
    can only be obstinately and obnoxiously doing this because
    they are being paid to do


    so!
    ==================
    You're a hoot! LOL!!!

    Kim

  13. "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Actually Dr. Valerie Saxon has some expelled Liver
    Flukes preserved in a jar! Nasty fair sized critters
    they are. If you want to know more about parasites you
    should contact her.


    ==========================
    Dr. Saxon? ???

    Since eating raw fish seems to be the only way, or main way
    to get these human liver infesting flukes I wouldn't think
    they'd be too common here in the USA. That is, among the non
    Asian population at least. Most Americans are not into
    eating raw fish dishes. Also most people in the USA use
    toilets and do not leave their feces on the ground where run
    off could carry it to a water source and infect the snails.

    Kim

  14. "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mark Probert-March 7, 2004" <Mark Probert03-07-
    [email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yfGdnRzeueYJOtfdRVn-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    <Rich.@.> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:11:31 -0600, "Kim" <spam-me-not@no-
    > spam.com>
    > >Excuse me, but if the stated University doesn't
    > >give such a degree,


    she

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is
    > >lying. If she is lying about her degree what else
    > >may she be lying
    about?
    =================
    > You don't understand Kim. Alternative practitioners
    > are allowed to
    > lie. CAbot could say she is an MD. Hulda Clark can
    > say she has the cure for all cancers. But you
    > are quite correct that her credibility is very
    > suspect. That is why I try to demonstrate the
    > lies of some people who post here.


    You

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > cannot believe those who repeatedly lie. And the
    > liars don't care about other liars as long as the
    > lies advance their agenda.
    >
    > Aloha,
    >
    > rich
    ====================
    I do remember Mrs. Clarks unsubstantiated cancer cure
    claims from some


    years

    Quoted message said:

    back. As I recall she was claiming she had a machine
    that zapped


    some

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    type

    Quoted message said:

    of cancer causing parasites. Were they liver flukes?

    You recall good.

    Has anything new

    Quoted message said:

    been learned about said flukes?

    Yes. Recent information shows that that appear only in
    Tiajuan, Mexico


    at

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    her clinic. The safest way to avoid them is to stay away
    from her


    clinic.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    It's also my understanding no flukes were

    Quoted message said:

    discovered during autopsies of deceased cancer
    victims.

    Lies to advance an agenda? Yes, that happens I'm sure.

    Actually Dr. Valerie Saxon has some expelled Liver
    Flukes preserved in a jar! Nasty fair sized critters
    they are. If you want to know more about parasites you
    should contact her.

    RB

    But do those liver flukes cause cancer?

  15. "Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Actually Dr. Valerie Saxon has some expelled Liver
    Flukes preserved in


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    jar! Nasty fair sized critters they are. If you want to
    know more about parasites you should contact her.


    ==========================
    Dr. Saxon? ???

    Since eating raw fish seems to be the only way, or main
    way to get these human liver infesting flukes I wouldn't
    think they'd be too common here in the USA. That is, among
    the non Asian population at least. Most


    Americans

    Quoted message said:

    are not into eating raw fish dishes.

    I guess you have never had Sushi (which is, IMNSHO, the
    Japanese word for bait).

    Also most people in the USA use

    Quoted message said:

    toilets and do not leave their feces on the ground where
    run off could


    carry

    Quoted message said:

    it to a water source and infect the snails.

  16. Well Jan, it sure seems that our girl Kim is starting to do
    more criticizing of you than she is seeking out info on
    alternative medicine. Just as I suspected..... a plant.
    maybe the return of Karuna?-rb

    "Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    X-No-Archive: yes

    <Rich.@.> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Cue Jan to go on her Andrew Kingoff rant. Just watch.

    Btw, Andrew is the guy she called a Jew Boy, posted his
    complete business address and phone number and told
    people not to do business with him.


    =====================
    That's a true insult. I see that as being equal with
    calling an African American the N word. Now you've got to
    be kidding about his business address etc.!!!!

    There sure seems to be a lot of animosity on this NG.
    Anyone posting/reading here would be afraid to mention
    where they live or even


    what

    Quoted message said:

    they do for a living.

    Kim

  17. "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark [email hidden]> wrote
    in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mark Probert-March 7, 2004" <Mark Probert03-07-
    [email hidden]>


    wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yfGdnRzeueYJOtfdRVn-
    [email hidden]...
    >
    > <Rich.@.> wrote in message
    > "]news:[email hidden]...
    > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:11:31 -0600, "Kim" <spam-me-not@no-
    > > spam.com>
    > > >Excuse me, but if the stated University doesn't
    > > >give such a


    degree,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    she

    Quoted message said:

    > is
    > > >lying. If she is lying about her degree what else
    > > >may she be


    lying

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > about?
    > =================
    > > You don't understand Kim. Alternative
    > > practitioners are allowed to
    > > lie. CAbot could say she is an MD. Hulda Clark can
    > > say she has the cure for all cancers. But you
    > > are quite correct that her credibility is
    > > very suspect.


    That

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > is why I try to demonstrate the lies of some
    > > people who post here.


    You

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > cannot believe those who repeatedly lie. And the
    > > liars don't care about other liars as long as the
    > > lies advance their agenda.
    > >
    > > Aloha,
    > >
    > > rich
    > ====================
    > I do remember Mrs. Clarks unsubstantiated cancer
    > cure claims from


    some

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    years
    > back. As I recall she was claiming she had a machine
    > that zapped


    some

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    type
    > of cancer causing parasites. Were they liver flukes?

    You recall good.

    Has anything new
    > been learned about said flukes?

    Yes. Recent information shows that that appear only in
    Tiajuan, Mexico


    at

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    her clinic. The safest way to avoid them is to stay
    away from her


    clinic.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    It's also my understanding no flukes were
    > discovered during autopsies of deceased cancer
    > victims.
    >
    > Lies to advance an agenda? Yes, that happens I'm
    > sure.

    Actually Dr. Valerie Saxon has some expelled Liver
    Flukes preserved in


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    jar! Nasty fair sized critters they are. If you want to
    know more about parasites you should contact her.

    RB

    But do those liver flukes cause cancer?

    If they don't do you want to keep them? -rb

  18. "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well Jan, it sure seems that our girl Kim is starting to
    do more criticizing of you than she is seeking out info
    on alternative medicine. Just as I suspected..... a
    plant. maybe the return of Karuna?-rb

    Karuna did not post from the US.

    Why are you so proud of running her off?

  19. "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mark Probert-March 8, 2004" <Mark Probert03-08-
    [email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Mark Probert-March 7, 2004" <Mark Probert03-07-
    [email hidden]>


    wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    lny.cv.net...
    >
    > "Kim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yfGdnRzeueYJOtfdRVn-
    > [email hidden]...
    > >
    > > <Rich.@.> wrote in message news:6h3g40pl2c1n5ovb3-
    > > [email hidden]...
    > > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:11:31 -0600, "Kim"


    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > > >Excuse me, but if the stated University doesn't
    > > > >give such a


    degree,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    she
    > > is
    > > > >lying. If she is lying about her degree what
    > > > >else may she be


    lying

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > about?
    > > =================
    > > > You don't understand Kim. Alternative
    > > > practitioners are allowed


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    > > > lie. CAbot could say she is an MD. Hulda Clark
    > > > can say she has


    the

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    > > > cure for all cancers. But you are quite correct
    > > > that her credibility is very suspect.


    That

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    > > > is why I try to demonstrate the lies of some
    > > > people who post


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    You

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    > > > cannot believe those who repeatedly lie. And the
    > > > liars don't


    care

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    > > > about other liars as long as the lies advance
    > > > their agenda.
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    > > > Aloha,
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    > > > rich
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    > > I do remember Mrs. Clarks unsubstantiated cancer
    > > cure claims from


    some

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    > years
    > > back. As I recall she was claiming she had a
    > > machine that zapped


    some

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    > type
    > > of cancer causing parasites. Were they liver
    > > flukes?
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    > You recall good.
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    > Has anything new
    > > been learned about said flukes?
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    > Yes. Recent information shows that that appear only
    > in Tiajuan,


    Mexico

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    > away from her


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    > It's also my understanding no flukes were
    > > discovered during autopsies of deceased cancer
    > > victims.
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    > > Lies to advance an agenda? Yes, that happens I'm
    > > sure.

    Actually Dr. Valerie Saxon has some expelled Liver
    Flukes preserved


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    jar! Nasty fair sized critters they are. If you want
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    parasites you should contact her.

    RB

    But do those liver flukes cause cancer?

    If they don't do you want to keep them?

    First, do I have them? I do not think so. I like sushi
    well done.

    As pets? Depends. Do they actually do anything? If they just
    lay there and grown, not really.

    I have three pets, all interesting.

    One, an African grey named Shakespeare who has around a 25
    word vocabulary which is growing regularly.

    Another is a Golden Retriever who is a full fledged member
    of the family.

    And, of course, my salt water tropicals.

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    "Ilsa9.11" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040307142523.16083.00001049@mb-

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    The problem is not the implausibility of their claim.


    The problem is in their

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    use of language. When they say that people are paid to
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    techniques, it means that they can't support their own
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    ===========================
    My head is spinning and I still haven't got a reply as to
    the names of


    the> parasites the cleanses flush out - and any alt
    the> information re:
    diabetes,> endometriosis, osteoarthritis and hypothyroidism.
    I sure got plenty of> other information though.

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    Kim

    Diabetes -- caused by repeated release of massive amounts of
    insulin which is brought about through the use of an high
    sugar intake diet. Sugar is in every processed food(along
    with scads of other savoury stuff such as preservatives etc)
    and most carbonated drinks. As a result most people are
    getting frequent high megadoses of sugar all day long for
    just about every day of their lives. As a result, their
    blood sugar levels soar sky high and the pancreas has to
    release huge amounts of insulin to lower the blood sugar to
    normal levels. Eventually the pancreas get exhausted and
    can't produce the insulin anymore with the result that a
    diabetic now will have to take insulin injections to manage
    their high blood sugar levels. A good idea to prevent
    diabetes is to quit using these processed foods and stop
    taking these carbonated beverages. In the place of sugar,
    for a sweetener use a natural product such as Stevia but no
    aspartame or other such deadly artificial sweetener's. For
    those that do have diabetics a major problem is the massive
    loss of vitamin's, minerals and enzymes through the frequent
    urination diabetic's are subjected to on a daily basis. To
    prevent this it is recommended that diabetics take massive
    doses of such nutrients to replace those loss daily through
    urination. For those that have poor blood flow it is
    recommended that they take Chelation therapy which has saved
    many a diabetic from losing their limbs! There is much more
    out there but for a detailed explanation maybe Jan will post
    some diabetic links which will explain much more fully and
    clearly than I have done all about what diabetes is and
    effective treatments against it.

    As for the parasites their names are Rich, Peter, Mark,
    Ilsa, Hawki, Michelle, David and Probert. -rb

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