colloidial silver

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Sharita B said:

Can anyone tell me about colloidial silver. A friend recommended it for
colds- she uses it for her whole family. I read alot of good things about
it but some bad and i'd like to know what others think.

People who sell it will tell you it's the greatest thing in history.

However, if you research the matter (other than going to web sites
that sell the stuff, I mean), you'll find that most of the claims for
CS are unproven, unfounded or flat-out false. For example, it's never
been shown that *drinking* silver can do anything other than turn your
skin a permanent grayish color (if you drink enough of it).

Many commercial CS products saved money during the production stage by
not actually including any silver at all.

Some claims, like "microorganisms cannot become immune to silver" are
flat-out false -- examples of silver-resistant microorganisms are
documented. Claims about "kills 650 different kinds of bacteria" are
nonsensical. There are *so* many kinds that 650 is a drop in the
bucket.

Silver does have its uses as an antimicrobial, but only in things like
burn dressings, or as a coating on needles and other materials that
penetrate the skin.

Save your money, and avoid the risk of turning gray.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

"Sharita B" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:s0gMb.69873$cM1.11999372
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Can anyone tell me about colloidial silver. A friend recommended it for
colds- she uses it for her whole family. I read alot of good things about
it but some bad and i'd like to know what others think.

http://homepages.together.net/~rjstan/rose1.html

Doesn't she look good with her skin blue-grey?

r

PS. It is permanent!

--
Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes.

"Sharita B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Can anyone tell me about colloidial silver. A friend recommended it for
colds- she uses it for her whole family. I read alot of good things about
it but some bad and i'd like to know what others think.

Silver salts (as opposed to colloidal metallic silver) have found extensive
use in medicine as a weak antiseptic, when applied undiluted directly to
bacteria. The obstacles to silver products having any effect in the human
body are huge, because of difficulties in absorption of colloidal particles,
dilution effects, the tendency of colloidal particles to become sequestered
away in lymph nodes and the sleen, and the strong binding of any silver ions
formed (the only way silver can act on bacteria) to protein e.g. in the
skin.

Not only is collidal silver implausible, but it has never been shown to do
anything that cannot be observed in persons taking a placebo..

Peter Moran

Please be aware that Mr. David Wright, "knows" only what he reads on the net
about it.
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In article <[email hidden]>,

Sharita B said:

Can anyone tell me about colloidial silver. A friend recommended it for
colds- she uses it for her whole family. I read alot of good things

about

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it but some bad and i'd like to know what others think.

People who sell it will tell you it's the greatest thing in history.

However, if you research the matter (other than going to web sites
that sell the stuff, I mean), you'll find that most of the claims for
CS are unproven, unfounded or flat-out false. For example, it's never
been shown that *drinking* silver can do anything other than turn your
skin a permanent grayish color (if you drink enough of it).

Many commercial CS products saved money during the production stage by
not actually including any silver at all.

Some claims, like "microorganisms cannot become immune to silver" are
flat-out false -- examples of silver-resistant microorganisms are
documented. Claims about "kills 650 different kinds of bacteria" are
nonsensical. There are *so* many kinds that 650 is a drop in the
bucket.

Silver does have its uses as an antimicrobial, but only in things like
burn dressings, or as a coating on needles and other materials that
penetrate the skin.

Save your money, and avoid the risk of turning gray.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

Dear Mr. Andrews, Have you ever seen a person "blue" from it? I doubt it.
Some people have been using it for years, without turning blue, and getting
very few infections along the way.
"Rich Andrews" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Sharita B" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:s0gMb.69873$cM1.11999372
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Quoted message said:

Can anyone tell me about colloidial silver. A friend recommended it for
colds- she uses it for her whole family. I read alot of good things

about

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it but some bad and i'd like to know what others think.

http://homepages.together.net/~rjstan/rose1.html

Doesn't she look good with her skin blue-grey?

r

PS. It is permanent!

--
Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes.

In article said:

Please be aware that Mr. David Wright, "knows" only what he reads on the net
about it.

Thank you for your thorough, well-researched, detailed rebuttal,
you anonymous top-posting twit.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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"David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>,

Sharita B said:

Can anyone tell me about colloidial silver. A friend recommended it for
colds- she uses it for her whole family. I read alot of good things

about

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it but some bad and i'd like to know what others think.

People who sell it will tell you it's the greatest thing in history.

However, if you research the matter (other than going to web sites
that sell the stuff, I mean), you'll find that most of the claims for
CS are unproven, unfounded or flat-out false. For example, it's never
been shown that *drinking* silver can do anything other than turn your
skin a permanent grayish color (if you drink enough of it).

Many commercial CS products saved money during the production stage by
not actually including any silver at all.

Some claims, like "microorganisms cannot become immune to silver" are
flat-out false -- examples of silver-resistant microorganisms are
documented. Claims about "kills 650 different kinds of bacteria" are
nonsensical. There are *so* many kinds that 650 is a drop in the
bucket.

Silver does have its uses as an antimicrobial, but only in things like
burn dressings, or as a coating on needles and other materials that
penetrate the skin.

Save your money, and avoid the risk of turning gray.

n article said:

Please be aware that Mr. David Wright, "knows" only what he reads on the net
about it.

Thank you for your thorough, well-researched, detailed rebuttal,
you anonymous top-posting twit.

I happen to agree with that. Have *you* done any independent research into CS ?
I think no.

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XSweetSue said:

n article said:

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Please be aware that Mr. David Wright, "knows" only what he reads on the net
about it.

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Thank you for your thorough, well-researched, detailed rebuttal,
you anonymous top-posting twit.

I happen to agree with that. Have *you* done any independent research
into CS ? I think no.

You think wrong. I did quite a bit. I found nothing to indicate that
taking colloidal silver will do anything positive for you.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

Thank you, sir, for addressing the subject.
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In article said:

Please be aware that Mr. David Wright, "knows" only what he reads on the

net

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about it.

Thank you for your thorough, well-researched, detailed rebuttal,
you anonymous top-posting twit.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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In article <[email hidden]>,
Sharita B <[email hidden]> wrote:
>Can anyone tell me about colloidial silver. A friend recommended it

for

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>colds- she uses it for her whole family. I read alot of good things

about

Quoted message said:

>it but some bad and i'd like to know what others think.

People who sell it will tell you it's the greatest thing in history.

However, if you research the matter (other than going to web sites
that sell the stuff, I mean), you'll find that most of the claims for
CS are unproven, unfounded or flat-out false. For example, it's never
been shown that *drinking* silver can do anything other than turn your
skin a permanent grayish color (if you drink enough of it).

Many commercial CS products saved money during the production stage by
not actually including any silver at all.

Some claims, like "microorganisms cannot become immune to silver" are
flat-out false -- examples of silver-resistant microorganisms are
documented. Claims about "kills 650 different kinds of bacteria" are
nonsensical. There are *so* many kinds that 650 is a drop in the
bucket.

Silver does have its uses as an antimicrobial, but only in things like
burn dressings, or as a coating on needles and other materials that
penetrate the skin.

Save your money, and avoid the risk of turning gray.

Yes, sweetie, I have. Now, when will you and Mr. Wright do so?
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n article said:

Please be aware that Mr. David Wright, "knows" only what he reads on the

net

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about it.

Thank you for your thorough, well-researched, detailed rebuttal,
you anonymous top-posting twit.

I happen to agree with that. Have *you* done any independent research into

CS ?

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I think no.

Please tell us what research you did, other than read some things here and
there.
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In article <[email hidden]>,

XSweetSue said:

n article said:

>Please be aware that Mr. David Wright, "knows" only what he reads on

the net

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>about it.

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Thank you for your thorough, well-researched, detailed rebuttal,
you anonymous top-posting twit.

I happen to agree with that. Have *you* done any independent research
into CS ? I think no.

You think wrong. I did quite a bit. I found nothing to indicate that
taking colloidal silver will do anything positive for you.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

"mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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Dear Mr. Andrews, Have you ever seen a person "blue" from it? I doubt

it.

Whether or not I have seen something personally doesn't alter the facts.
Have you seen an atome being split? Have you seen an electron, photon, or
a simpe water molecule?

now go play somewhere else troll.

r

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Some people have been using it for years, without turning blue, and

getting

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very few infections along the way.
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"Sharita B" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:s0gMb.69873

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Can anyone tell me about colloidial silver. A friend recommended it

for

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

colds- she uses it for her whole family. I read alot of good things

about

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it but some bad and i'd like to know what others think.

http://homepages.together.net/~rjstan/rose1.html

Doesn't she look good with her skin blue-grey?

r

PS. It is permanent!

--
Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes.

--
Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes.

"mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Please tell us what research you did, other than read some things here and
there.

Please tell us what research you did that shows that CS has a benefit in
humans. Please omit anything that is even remotely sales hype. I'll leave
some space:

[]

Any room you have left over can be used for doodling.

"mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Dear Mr. Andrews, Have you ever seen a person "blue" from it? I doubt it.
Some people have been using it for years, without turning blue, and

getting

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very few infections along the way.

Have you ever seen the backside of the moon?

Now, how do you know that taking the CS was the reason why they did not get
infections?

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I happen to agree with that. Have *you* done any independent research
into CS ? I think no.

You think wrong. I did quite a bit. I found nothing to indicate that
taking colloidal silver will do anything positive for you.

did you bother *interviewing* people who take CS and swear by it ?

So, in your mind I am a troll? Because I ask a question that you avoid
answering?
Your posting history screams TROLL! Mr. Andrews.
But back to the subject.
Mr. Andrews has NO experience with Colloidal Silver. He thinks that his
reading is research. He will not be able to explain why people that have
been using CS for years are STILL not "blue".
But, go ahead Mr. Andrews, tell me how people who have used it are trolls
for questioning you.
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"mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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Dear Mr. Andrews, Have you ever seen a person "blue" from it? I doubt

it.

Whether or not I have seen something personally doesn't alter the facts.
Have you seen an atome being split? Have you seen an electron, photon, or
a simpe water molecule?

now go play somewhere else troll.

r

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Some people have been using it for years, without turning blue, and

getting

Quoted message said:

very few infections along the way.
"Rich Andrews" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Sharita B" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:s0gMb.69873

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> Can anyone tell me about colloidial silver. A friend recommended it

for

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> colds- she uses it for her whole family. I read alot of good things

about

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> it but some bad and i'd like to know what others think.
>
>
>

http://homepages.together.net/~rjstan/rose1.html

Doesn't she look good with her skin blue-grey?

r

PS. It is permanent!

--
Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes.

--
Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes.

Used it on myself. Don't even start whining that "it's not official
research".
"Mark ProbertJanuary 12, 2004" <[email hidden]> wrote
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"mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Please tell us what research you did, other than read some things here

and

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there.

Please tell us what research you did that shows that CS has a benefit in
humans. Please omit anything that is even remotely sales hype. I'll leave
some space:

[]

Any room you have left over can be used for doodling.

"mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Used it on myself. Don't even start whining that "it's not official
research".

Why not? You have no real basis for knowing that it did anything for you,
except lighten your wallet. IOW, there is no research, just anecdotal
evidence and sales hype. Like I said.

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"Mark ProbertJanuary 12, 2004" <[email hidden]> wrote
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"mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Please tell us what research you did, other than read some things here

and

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there.

Please tell us what research you did that shows that CS has a benefit in
humans. Please omit anything that is even remotely sales hype. I'll

leave

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some space:

[]

Any room you have left over can be used for doodling.

I understand now. You have not seen any such people. You could be up-front
and honest , and simply say so, but you attempt to deflect the debate.
You are too easy.
"Mark ProbertJanuary 12, 2004" <[email hidden]> wrote
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"mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Dear Mr. Andrews, Have you ever seen a person "blue" from it? I doubt

it.

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Some people have been using it for years, without turning blue, and

getting

Quoted message said:

very few infections along the way.

Have you ever seen the backside of the moon?

Now, how do you know that taking the CS was the reason why they did not

get

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infections?