colloidial silver

So please do not use any alternative medicine. Please use as many "new"
drugs as you can. Please, oh please trust only your "doctor".
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Wrong. I asked you a gadzillion times for some real proof of th

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CS, and you did not post one scintilla of proof. You did the CS

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(with great skill, I do admit) and avoided responding to my requests.

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review them, and, if they do prove that CS works in humans as claimed,

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will state that.

My mind is open. Now, open your keyboard and start proving.

science has a long history of being wrong.

You have no history of being right. Provide some real proof.

UH HUH
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This is the most civil answer yet.

You were treated civilly, but chose to become childish on your own.

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> Can anyone tell me about colloidial silver. A friend recommended it

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I don't think it is a good idea, and neither does this biochemist:

http://www.VitaleTherapeutics.org/vtlmntox.htm

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_o Kristofer Dale,
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p.s. Learn and live, http://www.vitaletherapeutics.org

Ha ha ha ha
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My mind is open. Now, open your keyboard and start proving.

your mind hardly seems open to me. I would suggest trying this:
drill hole in brain. flush out debris with collodial silver. post back

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tell

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me how
open minded you are now 😉

Sadly, you and MDD have lived in a clueless envrionment far too long.

BTW, I do acknowledge that both you and MDD have 3rd degree open minds.

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is the condition where the mind was so open, the brain fell out.

Alas, it is a condition all too common among alties. They seem to equate
having an open mind with uncritically accepting all sorts of assertions
that have no evidence or even sound reasoning to support them. Having an
"open mind" does not mean one has to give up one's critical thinking
abilities.

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|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"

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ROTLFMAO! Heh heh heh!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8632503&dopt=Abstract

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From this: "CONCLUSIONS: We emphasize the lack of established

effectiveness

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and potential toxicity of these products."

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If you have data to the contrary, please submit it.

Ah yes, brought to you by those friendly folks who also bring drugs and
overdoses, wrong drugs, wrong leg removed, wrong patient, bad reaction to
the drugs, the cause of many many deaths. Ah yes those nice people who think
that it is fine to sell bad drugs till they are forced to stop by public
outcry. Ah yes those nice bloody trolls. Sick
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If you have data to the contrary, please submit it.

Ah yes, brought to you by those friendly folks who also bring drugs and
overdoses, wrong drugs, wrong leg removed, wrong patient, bad reaction to
the drugs, the cause of many many deaths. Ah yes those nice people who think
that it is fine to sell bad drugs till they are forced to stop by public
outcry. Ah yes those nice bloody trolls. Sick
[censored].

It would appear that he doesn't have any evidence to the contrary and is
thus reduced to his usual childish insults--as usual.

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|
|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"

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My mind is open. Now, open your keyboard and start proving.

your mind hardly seems open to me. I would suggest trying this:
drill hole in brain. flush out debris with collodial silver. post back and

tell

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me how
open minded you are now 😉

Sadly, you and MDD have lived in a clueless envrionment far too long.

BTW, I do acknowledge that both you and MDD have 3rd degree open minds. That
is the condition where the mind was so open, the brain fell out.

Alas, it is a condition all too common among alties. They seem to equate
having an open mind with uncritically accepting all sorts of assertions
that have no evidence or even sound reasoning to support them. Having an
"open mind" does not mean one has to give up one's critical thinking
abilities.

Yep -- a later article is yet another of those whiny screeds
complaining that m.h.a does not uncritically accept and embrace every
single stupid "alternative" idea to come down the pike.

Jesus, we're talking about peoples *lives* here -- and some of these
twits apparently think that everyone's experience is totally valid and
utterly applicable to every other reader, the CS promoters being
simply a rather vocal type of such vermin.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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[censored] who have not done any research about it. READING OTHER PEOPLES
RESEARCH OR OPINIONS, IS NOT RESEARCH. To do research you would need

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use

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it or monitor people who were using it. You, nor your tiny group of

losers do not do research.

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Presumably this applies to every medicine or treatment. How is it

possible for each individual to "research" everything they seek knowledge

of?

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In this case, it is possible for anyone to do their own "research".

Some people have and they suffered permanent disfigurment. What did they do
wrong? Can we not consider their experience "research"?

m, 3

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> [censored] who have not done any research about it. READING OTHER

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> RESEARCH OR OPINIONS, IS NOT RESEARCH. To do research you would

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of?

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In this case, it is possible for anyone to do their own "research".

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wrong? Can we not consider their experience "research"?

Nope. In AltWorld, personal experience that shows an AltChemcial to have
some form of serious side effect is not research. It is sort of like the
rule where one altie will not criticize another altie, unless the other
altie is a business competitor.

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> > > >
> > > > Sorry that you cannot re-think a firmly held *belief*.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't have to defend myself to you or anyone else. CS works

for

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me

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> > > that
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> > >
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your

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mind
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may

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> > > your firmly held belief.
> > >
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> Wrong. I asked you a gadzillion times for some real proof of th

efficacy

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if
> CS, and you did not post one scintilla of proof. You did the CS

sidestep

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> (with great skill, I do admit) and avoided responding to my

requests.

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> Provide some decent sceintific proof, not anecdotes, etc. and I will
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> will state that.
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> My mind is open. Now, open your keyboard and start proving.
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science has a long history of being wrong.

You have no history of being right. Provide some real proof.

So please do not use any alternative medicine. Please use as many "new"
drugs as you can. Please, oh please trust only your "doctor".

Brilliant proof.

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UH HUH

Most intelligent post of your these past few days.

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Some people have and they suffered permanent disfigurment. What did they

do

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wrong? Can we not consider their experience "research"?

Nope. In AltWorld, personal experience that shows an AltChemcial to have
some form of serious side effect is not research.

Correct. Only potentially beneficial effects are considered "research."
Any observed side effect is clearly an attempt by the eeeevill
conventional medical establishment to smear the AltChemical.

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It is sort of like the
rule where one altie will not criticize another altie, unless the other
altie is a business competitor.

Heh heh.

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|
|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"

Heh heh.

most intelligent post of yours all week! lol

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XSweetSue said:

Heh heh.

most intelligent post of yours all week! lol

And yours is at your usual level, too, Sue -- because you didn't quote
any text, so nobody will know what you're referring to. Good work.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

Yes Sue, you must make so that the slower students can keep up.
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Heh heh.

most intelligent post of yours all week! lol

And yours is at your usual level, too, Sue -- because you didn't quote
any text, so nobody will know what you're referring to. Good work.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)