BROL Down?

This has happened a couple of times recently. I imagine Brian will have to
start charging for access to his site.

"bg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Just tried to hit the BROL site and got the messahe below.
bill g
"This domain name has been suspended for exceeding the monthly bandwidth
quota. The site will be automatically turned on again on the first day
of next month.

TC Hazzard said:

This has happened a couple of times recently. I imagine Brian will have to
start charging for access to his site.

"bg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Just tried to hit the BROL site and got the messahe below.
bill g
"This domain name has been suspended for exceeding the monthly bandwidth
quota. The site will be automatically turned on again on the first day
of next month.

I'm not speaking for Bryan on this matter, but I wouldn't jump to
such a conclusion based just on this event. The server/ISP was changed
recently, and apparently there were some "automatic" shut-off systems if
the daily traffic went beyond a certain point, as well as the monthly.
The daily "switch" was dealt with, and so will this one. On the message
board, it is pointed out that they just need to wait until the actual
office of the provider opens, which will be (if I remember correctly)
noon, Eastern Standard Time.
If anything, this shows just how popular 'Bentrider Online has become.

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney

Hmmm.... coming up on two days.

(9:30 pm EST 18 May)

john riley said:

Hmmm.... coming up on two days.

(9:30 pm EST 18 May)

It's up. It's been up since about noon, EST 18 May.

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney

Larry Varney said:

john riley said:

Hmmm.... coming up on two days.

(9:30 pm EST 18 May)

It's up. It's been up since about noon, EST 18 May.

Actually, it's been up since about noon EST of 17 May, yesterday. It
was down from around midnight of the 17th, EST, to shortly after noon.

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney

"Larry Varney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Larry Varney said:

john riley said:

Hmmm.... coming up on two days.

(9:30 pm EST 18 May)

It's up. It's been up since about noon, EST 18 May.

Actually, it's been up since about noon EST of 17 May, yesterday. It
was down from around midnight of the 17th, EST, to shortly after noon.

That's good news indeed that BROL is back as I would not want all those
jackasses who have fled ARBR to come back here. It is good riddance to the
lot of them. They can't take controversy and were the biggest bunch of cry
babies and complainers I ever had the misfortune to know.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Larry Varney <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Larry Varney said:

john riley said:

Hmmm.... coming up on two days.

(9:30 pm EST 18 May)

It's up. It's been up since about noon, EST 18 May.

Actually, it's been up since about noon EST of 17 May, yesterday. It
was down from around midnight of the 17th, EST, to shortly after noon.

6 am EST 19 May:
I still get the message. I have tried "refresh". Any idea how to get it back?

Edward Dolan said:

"Larry Varney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Larry Varney said:

john riley wrote:

>Hmmm.... coming up on two days.
>
>(9:30 pm EST 18 May)

It's up. It's been up since about noon, EST 18 May.

Actually, it's been up since about noon EST of 17 May, yesterday. It
was down from around midnight of the 17th, EST, to shortly after noon.

That's good news indeed that BROL is back as I would not want all those
jackasses who have fled ARBR to come back here. It is good riddance to the
lot of them. They can't take controversy and were the biggest bunch of cry
babies and complainers I ever had the misfortune to know.

I'm not going to speak for everyone who has left, but I do think
you're mistaken. It's not "controversy" that caused them to leave - it
was more the constant, petty bickering, the insults, the racist, ethnic
and religious intolerance and hatred that is getting to be the norm on
this board. That's what drove them away. That, along with the vulgar
remarks and name-calling that even a child would be ashamed to use -
that's what drove most people away.

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney

Edward Dolan said:

"Larry Varney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Larry Varney said:

john riley wrote:

>Hmmm.... coming up on two days.
>
>(9:30 pm EST 18 May)

It's up. It's been up since about noon, EST 18 May.

Actually, it's been up since about noon EST of 17 May, yesterday. It
was down from around midnight of the 17th, EST, to shortly after noon.

That's good news indeed that BROL is back as I would not want all those
jackasses who have fled ARBR to come back here. It is good riddance to the
lot of them. They can't take controversy and were the biggest bunch of cry
babies and complainers I ever had the misfortune to know.

I'm not going to speak for everyone who has left, but I do think
you're mistaken. It's not "controversy" that caused them to leave - it
was more the constant, petty bickering, the insults, the racist, ethnic
and religious intolerance and hatred that is getting to be the norm on
this board. That's what drove them away. That, along with the vulgar
remarks and name-calling that even a child would be ashamed to use -
that's what drove most people away.

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney

Thank you.

"Larry Varney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
||
| I'm not going to speak for everyone who has left, but I do think
| you're mistaken. It's not "controversy" that caused them to leave - it
| was more the constant, petty bickering, the insults, the racist, ethnic
| and religious intolerance and hatred that is getting to be the norm on
| this board. That's what drove them away. That, along with the vulgar
| remarks and name-calling that even a child would be ashamed to use -
| that's what drove most people away.
|
|
| --
| Larry Varney
| Cold Spring, KY
| http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney
|
|

"Larry Varney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
[...]

Quoted message said:

Edward Dolan said:

That's good news indeed that BROL is back as I would not want all those
jackasses who have fled ARBR to come back here. It is good riddance to

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

lot of them. They can't take controversy and were the biggest bunch of

cry

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

babies and complainers I ever had the misfortune to know.

I'm not going to speak for everyone who has left, but I do think
you're mistaken. It's not "controversy" that caused them to leave - it
was more the constant, petty bickering, the insults, the racist, ethnic
and religious intolerance and hatred that is getting to be the norm on
this board. That's what drove them away. That, along with the vulgar
remarks and name-calling that even a child would be ashamed to use -
that's what drove most people away.

Nonsense! It didn't cause you to leave did it? I am assuming an adult group
here and cry baby children can go elsewhere. I understand on BROL all
messages have to past muster with a moderator. That is fine for children as
they need moderating.

Those [censored] thought they could come on ARBR and call Bush and
conservatives every name in the book, and when I returned the favor they
took offense. I am glad they are gone and may they never come back. The
group is a much better place without them. They were nothing but liberal
hate mongers and Bush bashers. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

"Doug Huffman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Thank you.

"Larry Varney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
||
| I'm not going to speak for everyone who has left, but I do think
| you're mistaken. It's not "controversy" that caused them to leave - it
| was more the constant, petty bickering, the insults, the racist, ethnic
| and religious intolerance and hatred that is getting to be the norm on
| this board. That's what drove them away. That, along with the vulgar
| remarks and name-calling that even a child would be ashamed to use -
| that's what drove most people away.

Why do all the idiots top post?

But the amen chorus is always welcome here on ARBR where they can post their
assents to one idiocy after another. Mr. Varney would no doubt like to have
his own web site where he could control what gets said and what doesn't get
said. Why the hell doesn't he (and you too Doug Huffman) stay on BROL where
you belong. There you can be supervised like children and not have to abide
the likes of me.

These types of people are profoundly anti-democratic and are nothing but
frustrated dictators and tyrants who would like to control the rest of us.
But I am here to deny them that pleasure and to defend freedom of speech
unmediated by the likes of Varney. Thank God for Usenet and ARBR! And screw
BROL all the way to hell and back!

These g.d. liberals can post their obscenities on BROL all they want because
Mr. Ball is sympathetic to their cause but as long as I am on ARBR that sort
of rot will not go unchallenged here.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Edward Dolan said:

...I understand on BROL all messages have to past muster with a moderator....

That is not strictly true. In a truly moderated newsgroup, message
board, or listserve, messages are not posted until approved by a
moderator (similar to writing a letter to a newspaper or magazine and
having the editor approve it for publication). This type of moderation
is rare on the Internet due to the workload involved.

On the BROL message boards, messages are not pre-approved, but actions
such as "locking" threads, suspending posting privileges, and deleting
threads or postings occur after the fact.

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

"Tom Sherman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Edward Dolan said:

...I understand on BROL all messages have to past muster with a

moderator....

Quoted message said:

That is not strictly true. In a truly moderated newsgroup, message
board, or listserve, messages are not posted until approved by a
moderator (similar to writing a letter to a newspaper or magazine and
having the editor approve it for publication). This type of moderation
is rare on the Internet due to the workload involved.

On the BROL message boards, messages are not pre-approved, but actions
such as "locking" threads, suspending posting privileges, and deleting
threads or postings occur after the fact.

Mr. Sherman is the expert on all of this as far as I am concerned and so I
stand corrected.

In other words, Mr. Ball, whose web site (bulletin board) it is, can decide
after the fact whether or not to bar anyone from further posts. This seems
fair to me and I have no objection to it. Hell, if I was running my own
message board, that is the way I would do it too. Still, I sometimes wonder
how long I would last on BROL.

But bulletin boards do not interest me. I like the give and play of argument
to and fro in more or less real time. That is the best way in the world to
learn anything - provided that everyone posting is not an idiot. If someone
is committed to a position passionately and is willing to argue it, I can
respect that no matter how much I might disagree. And if I didn't respect
all those with whom I am disagreeing, I would be long gone from ARBR.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Edward Dolan said:

"Larry Varney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
[...]

Quoted message said:

Edward Dolan said:

That's good news indeed that BROL is back as I would not want all those
jackasses who have fled ARBR to come back here. It is good riddance to

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

lot of them. They can't take controversy and were the biggest bunch of

cry

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

babies and complainers I ever had the misfortune to know.

I'm not going to speak for everyone who has left, but I do think
you're mistaken. It's not "controversy" that caused them to leave - it
was more the constant, petty bickering, the insults, the racist, ethnic
and religious intolerance and hatred that is getting to be the norm on
this board. That's what drove them away. That, along with the vulgar
remarks and name-calling that even a child would be ashamed to use -
that's what drove most people away.

Nonsense! It didn't cause you to leave did it? I am assuming an adult group
here and cry baby children can go elsewhere. I understand on BROL all
messages have to past muster with a moderator. That is fine for children as
they need moderating.

Those [censored] thought they could come on ARBR and call Bush and
conservatives every name in the book, and when I returned the favor they
took offense. I am glad they are gone and may they never come back. The
group is a much better place without them. They were nothing but liberal
hate mongers and Bush bashers. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

Give it up, Ed. No one's buying this lame "political" excuse you keep
pulling out of the stable. Insults, vulgarity and childish behavior are
not, sadly, restricted to just politics. You have regularly insulted and
used words that should rarely come out of the mouth - or keyboard - of
an adult.
And you seemingly try to justify it on some sort of political
grounds, some sort of liberal vs. conservative thing. It's not. It's not
even a freedom of speech issue - everyone knows that, on an unmoderated
newsgroup, you can say just about anything you want. But does that
"freedom" mean you should engage in such juvenile behavior? No. Much
more is expected from an adult.
Continue to pretend that you're something you're not, Ed. Continue to
prattle on about this "liberal hate monger and Bush basher" nonsense.
But understand this: no one is buying it. Everyone knows that you, for
some perverse reason, love to be crude, obnoxious and the most pathetic
boor possible. Just why is anyone's guess. Take responsibility for your
own actions, and don't keep claiming it's all because of something that
someone else said.
But if you want to say it's because you're a Bush Republican, that
somehow what you're doing is a reflection of what Bush and his
supporters believe and are like, feel free to continue doing so. I would
guess that the Democrats just wish you had a bigger sandbox.

--
Larry Varney
Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney

"Larry Varney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Edward Dolan said:

"Larry Varney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
[...]

Quoted message said:

Edward Dolan wrote:

>That's good news indeed that BROL is back as I would not want all those
>jackasses who have fled ARBR to come back here. It is good riddance to

the

Quoted message said:

>lot of them. They can't take controversy and were the biggest bunch of

cry

Quoted message said:

>babies and complainers I ever had the misfortune to know.
>

I'm not going to speak for everyone who has left, but I do think
you're mistaken. It's not "controversy" that caused them to leave - it
was more the constant, petty bickering, the insults, the racist, ethnic
and religious intolerance and hatred that is getting to be the norm on
this board. That's what drove them away. That, along with the vulgar
remarks and name-calling that even a child would be ashamed to use -
that's what drove most people away.

Nonsense! It didn't cause you to leave did it? I am assuming an adult

group

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

here and cry baby children can go elsewhere. I understand on BROL all
messages have to past muster with a moderator. That is fine for children

as

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

they need moderating.

Those [censored] thought they could come on ARBR and call Bush and
conservatives every name in the book, and when I returned the favor they
took offense. I am glad they are gone and may they never come back. The
group is a much better place without them. They were nothing but liberal
hate mongers and Bush bashers. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

Give it up, Ed. No one's buying this lame "political" excuse you keep
pulling out of the stable. Insults, vulgarity and childish behavior are
not, sadly, restricted to just politics. You have regularly insulted and
used words that should rarely come out of the mouth - or keyboard - of
an adult.

Some are altogether too ready to take offense when none is intended. These
types are ever my delight to tease and annoy. Who do they think they are
anyway that they can take offense at anything they please. It is all nothing
but hypocrisy, but I have their number and I know who they all are by now.

Quoted message said:

And you seemingly try to justify it on some sort of political
grounds, some sort of liberal vs. conservative thing. It's not. It's not
even a freedom of speech issue - everyone knows that, on an unmoderated
newsgroup, you can say just about anything you want. But does that
"freedom" mean you should engage in such juvenile behavior? No. Much
more is expected from an adult.

You are confusing style with content. That is ever the mistake of those who
do not know how to read for content. But I am adamant and will not give in
to those who want to be flattered and appeased. To this very day I go back
and review those odious liberal posts from over a year ago and I am
empowered to carry on in my crusade to cleanse this newsgroup of all such
obscenities no matter what it takes. I am a knight errant, like Don Quixote,
who goes forth to do battle with nefarious scoundrels.

Quoted message said:

Continue to pretend that you're something you're not, Ed. Continue to
prattle on about this "liberal hate monger and Bush basher" nonsense.
But understand this: no one is buying it. Everyone knows that you, for
some perverse reason, love to be crude, obnoxious and the most pathetic
boor possible. Just why is anyone's guess. Take responsibility for your
own actions, and don't keep claiming it's all because of something that
someone else said.

See my paragraph immediately above.

Quoted message said:

But if you want to say it's because you're a Bush Republican, that
somehow what you're doing is a reflection of what Bush and his
supporters believe and are like, feel free to continue doing so. I would
guess that the Democrats just wish you had a bigger sandbox.

I only want things to be fair and balanced here on ARBR. It is apparent to
me from long experience that most on this newsgroup are liberal nuts and
screwballs, and so I have my work cut out for me. The sane and sensible
folks on this newsgroup I can count on the fingers of one hand.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:. Still, I sometimes wonder

Quoted message said:

how long I would last on BROL.

Shoot Ed, given some of nonsense in the gas topic on BROL, I thought
maybe you were _already_ there ... under a different name. ;-)

"john riley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:. Still, I sometimes

wonder

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

how long I would last on BROL.

Shoot Ed, given some of nonsense in the gas topic on BROL, I thought
maybe you were _already_ there ... under a different name. ;-)

I would most likely get embroiled in argument where ever I would go. So I
will confine my activity to ARBR. It is enough and more than keeps me
occupied. I do not know how some can mange to be on more than one newsgroup
at a time.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

"Larry Varney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
[...]

Quoted message said:

And you seemingly try to justify it on some sort of political
grounds, some sort of liberal vs. conservative thing. It's not. It's not
even a freedom of speech issue - everyone knows that, on an unmoderated
newsgroup, you can say just about anything you want. But does that
"freedom" mean you should engage in such juvenile behavior? No. Much
more is expected from an adult.

Mr. Ball has stated previously on this forum that he did not see anything
wrong with all the liberal hate mongering and Bush bashing that went on here
before I showed up. I am assuming that that is the way he runs BROL. I have
never looked at BROL nor do I ever intend to because of his liberal biases
and prejudiced viewpoints. He can not possibly be fair and balanced. I have
no doubt whatsoever that one cannot say what ever one wants on a moderated
newsgroup. Mr. Ball will be there to exclude you if he does not like either
the substance or the style of what he hears. Moderated newsgroups are for
children and juveniles.

You say it is not a freedom of speech issue. It most certainly is! Why
should I tip-toe around issues with polite language when others were calling
Bush a [censored] and a [censored]? Screw that! If you call Bush a [censored], then I
am going to call you a [censored] too and I will leave poor Senator Kerry out
of it. Where the hell were you when all this was going on over a year ago?
Like all liberals you were permanently out to lunch when what you were
hearing was music to your ears. If you want to know what you liberals looked
like to me back then, think Michael Moore and you have got it. What piece
of scurrilous scum he is!

ARBR is a much better place than it was a year ago largely because I do not
let these liberals rule here like they used to. I do not interfere with the
recumbent on topic posting, but I am constantly cruising this forum like a
shark for any off topic posting which I regard as beyond the fringe.

Instead of deploring what I do, you should be grateful that I am keeping the
ocean of ARBR cleansed of pollutants and dead, rotting organic matter. I
should be getting awards and being acclaimed for performing well beyond the
human norm. But no man is a profit in his own country. I will only be missed
when I am no longer here and the group has reverted to the pig sty from
which I rescued it.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota