Big glum :(

Mark South said:

"Trevor Barton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:48:31 +0100, Ambrose

Nankivell said:

In "]news:[email hidden], Peter Clinch
<[email hidden]> typed:
> Ambrose Nankivell wrote:
>> 1.76m, I'd have thought (pronounced one metre seventy
>> six)
>
> <pedant> Shurely "one point seven six metres"</pedant>
>
Not in normal language, I wouldn't have thought. I
guess it needs a

large

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community of English speakers who naturally deal with
metric

measurements to

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give a definite answer. AFAIK, there aren't any.

No-one uses metric, they use System Internationale.

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Australians. New Zealanders. Engineers. Scientists.

Add South Africans and Canadians.

Sorry, of course. I knew about SA, but I didn't realise
Canada did. Do they do it because some of them like to
pretend they're French to [censored] the Americans, or do they
do it just to [censored] Americans?

And, yes, of course, kids. Mine don't know what lb or oz
are, good thing too.

--
Trevor Barton

Peter Clinch said:

Ambrose Nankivell said:

1.76m, I'd have thought (pronounced one metre
seventy six)

<pedant> Shurely "one point seven six metres"</pedant>

Pete.

Tut tut : such pedantry from a man who still writes

"it does miles better than synthetics" [*]

which every right-minded scientist, engineer, Canadian,
Australian, South African and school-child knows should read

"it does 1.666 kilometres better than synthetics"

:-)))

** Phil.
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Philip TAYLOR PC87S/O-XP said:

which every right-minded scientist, engineer,
Canadian, Australian, South African and school-child
knows should read

"it does 1.666 kilometres better than synthetics"

No it shouldn't! ;-) Though strictly speaking "miles"
multiple rather than singular is an unspecified distance, an
approximate conversion of a single mile into km is more like
1.609, not 1.666.

Pete.
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33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177
Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden]
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Tut tut : such pedantry from a man who still writes

"it does miles better than synthetics" [*]

which every right-minded scientist, engineer,
Canadian, Australian, South African and school-child
knows should read

"it does 1.666 kilometres better than synthetics"

tut indeed - 1.609344 kilometres, assuming we're on land :-)

cheers, clive

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Most joiners now would say 'one metre seven sixty'.

No. Most joiners now would say "one thousand, seven hundred
and sixty mils", since they mostly work in millimetres now.

Jon

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"it does 1.666 kilometres better than synthetics"

Although the original was "miles" not "one mile" so it really ought to be:

"it does multiples of 1.666* kilometres better than synthetics"

Do I need <pedant> tags here?

d.
*or 1.609344 or whatever

Soup just had to say

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Unattributed but probably by Clive George

[Anyone else noticed quotefix gets its attributions
all wrong ?]

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"Philip TAYLOR [PC87S/O-XP]" <[email hidden]> wrote
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ranews.com... Tut tut : such pedantry from a man who
still writes

"it does miles better than synthetics"

<snip>

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"it does 1.666 kilometres better than synthetics"

tut indeed - 1.609344 kilometres, assuming we're on
land :-)

Why should it matter if you are on land ,in the air or
under water, a mile is a mile ? Of course you could say at
sea it is a nautical mile but a mile and a nautical mile
are two different things can't be ars^bothered to work out
the exact difference . :o)

--
Yours S. addy not usable (not that you would try it) ( )
Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant! / \
www.killies.co.uk/forums/index.php

you'll just have to borrow your daughters Chopper instead

paul said:

11th June 🙁

And I don't even know whether that's the shipping date or
the delivery date 🙁

I wish I'd fallen for a hurricane, or a dolphin 🙁

I feel so helpless, I'm the customer, and I've got no
leaverage at all, I'm used to being in control when I'm
spending money 🙁

11th June, summer will be over by then 🙁

I'm just so feed up 🙁

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Most joiners now would say 'one metre seven sixty'.

No. Most joiners now would say "one thousand, seven
hundred and sixty mils", since they mostly work in
millimetres now.

Ezzakerly. Point I was making, acksherly.

--
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Do I need <pedant> tags here?

Sometimes I think *everything* on this groups needs
<pedant> tags.

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11th June 🙁

And I don't even know whether that's the shipping date
or the delivery date 🙁

I wish I'd fallen for a hurricane, or a dolphin 🙁

I feel so helpless, I'm the customer, and I've got no
leaverage at all, I'm used to being in control when I'm
spending money 🙁

11th June, summer will be over by then 🙁

I'm just so feed up 🙁

You unhappy sod. Go on, make me jealous - what're you
getting?

An HPvelo Grasshopper. With dual drive, disc brakes, upgrade
springy bits and other stuff 🙂
--
.paul

If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving is probably not
the sport for you.

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paul said:

11th June 🙁

And I don't even know whether that's the shipping date
or the delivery date 🙁

I wish I'd fallen for a hurricane, or a dolphin 🙁

I feel so helpless, I'm the customer, and I've got no
leaverage at all, I'm used to being in control when I'm
spending money 🙁

11th June, summer will be over by then 🙁

I'm just so feed up 🙁

Is it Shimano equiped ? There is a shortage of Shimano
parts ATM.

No $himano. SRAM dual drive at the back, Magura Julie disk
stoppers and other bits source from multitudeness suppliers.
Frameset made by HPvelo as is the seat.
--
.paul

If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving is probably not
the sport for you.

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Bummer, isn't it. I had horrible delays on mine. Ended up
taking three times as long as they initially said. You
have my sympathy.

delivery date has slipped from end of may to mid june so
far. I'm hoping it won't slip further.

Thankyou.
--
.paul

If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving is probably not
the sport for you.

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MSeries said:

paul said:

11th June, summer will be over by then 🙁

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Is it Shimano equiped ? There is a shortage of Shimano
parts ATM.

Hmmm - maybe I should change my order and get the Hope
Mini's instead of the Shimano disk brakes, if that makes
my order be delivered faster...

I'm contemplating asking if HP will fit hopes instead of the
magura Julies. I'm not sure they will though.

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Paul, you can come and play on mine for the last 2 weeks
of your wait :-) (But not too long!)

Don't gloat, it's not nice 🙂

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I think the only way to get one fast is to go to one of
the bigger Dutch shops and buy one of the models they
have in stock. Though they never have the exact options
you want!

I bought Sarah's bike in a largish bike shop at Hook. They
had some optima in stock and I think that is when I first
became aware of SWB 'bents.

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Roos

--
.paul

If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving is probably not
the sport for you.

paul said:

11th June 🙁

And I don't even know whether that's the shipping date or
the delivery date 🙁

You'd think they'd give you that information, at least.
When I was waiting for my Street Machine, Bikefix were
hopeless at keeping me informed and kept giving me later
dates when I phoned. Of course the problem may have been at
the HPVelo end, but the result was that I have since
ordered all of my spares from Kinetics and have done no
further business with Bikefix.

--
Danny Colyer (the UK company has been laughed out of my
reply address)
<url:http://www.speedy5.freeserve.co.uk/danny/> "He who
dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine

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paul said:

11th June 🙁

Bummer. Still, my StM took a good 6 weeks but it was
definitely worth the wait.

It'll be 10 weeks by the time I get it. Hopefully it'll be
worth the wait 🙂

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But I think you're suffering from a high initial order
rate on the Grasshopper.

See other post. but I'm still kicking myself...

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I wish I'd fallen for a hurricane, or a dolphin 🙁

For the Dolphin, the lead times on Optimas are sometimes
even worse (or at least were back when Darth Ben dealt
with them). Also, as we found out in Amsterdam the Dolphin
is actually designed for smaller riders. Roos (5'10"😉
wouldn't fit on the one she's planned to try, so unless
you're a shorty it may have been an uncomfortable love
affair...

6 footer and 17 stone, so sounds like it migh have been a
problem 🙂

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Haven't tried the Hurricane, but we both tried a Mistral
and were both seriously underwhelmed. It just wasn't
exceptional in any way (aside from the Magura rim brakes,
which had me ordering my own set).

I thought the Hurricane I tried looked a bit of a home
build. It seemed over engineered, and a little agricultural,
if you get my drift

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11th June, summer will be over by then 🙁

I feel your bleak mood has caused some exaggeration here.

You might be right, but this is the UK 🙂

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Go to Bikefix and play on a Speedmachine for a while.
They owe it to you for putting too much temptation in
your way...

I think you have apoint here 🙂 I'll have to see how long it
takes Darth Stuart to get fed up with me 🙂

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--
.paul

If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving is probably not
the sport for you.

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"paul" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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11th June 🙁 11th June, summer will be over by then 🙁

I'm just so feed up 🙁
--
.paul

....and the good news for you (but bad for the rest of us)
is that it's going to be a late starter this year and will
p*ss down 'til...er...let me see...... 11th
JUNE!!!...lucky you!

I hope you're right, I don't know if I can put up with any
more balmy spring days without my new toy 😄
--
.paul

If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving is probably not
the sport for you.

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paul said:

11th June, summer will be over by then 🙁

Just saw this in alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent:

FS: 2004 HP Velo Grasshopper SWB OSS, green, dual 20",
front & rear suspension, Airflow seat, Low miles, like
new. $1800. Bob Bryant [email hidden]

If you get it shipped NOW it will be with you soon :-)

Roos

I saw that and did wonder. But it's not got all the bits,
and after i've added shiping and import duties it'll cost as
much as i'm giving darth stuart. 🙂
--
.paul

If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving is probably not
the sport for you.

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you'll just have to borrow your daughters Chopper instead

I got shouted at yesterday for doing just that 🙂
--
.paul

If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving is probably not
the sport for you.

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The Grasshopper is currently an awkward case as it's brand
new and was much anticipated. I think it's mad, but
apparently they were selling well on pre-orders before
many people had even seen one in the flesh, never mind
ridden one, so there's currently a backlog of building
them for all the new orders.

The thing that really upsets me is I missed the first batch
be dithering. If I'd gone for it when I first decided, Id be
have it by now. 🙁 Still, on the bright side, I would have
been less informed and would have gone for the Rohloff and
sacrificed other options...
--
.paul

If at first you don't succeed... Skydiving is probably not
the sport for you.