Arm Flab... Help!

Arms are easy to work out, but like anything it takes time. The biggest
muscles in the arm are the triceps. They take up 2/3's of the upper arm.
The bicep is quite a bit smaller, but more pronounced. If you want to get
rid of that turkey gobbler, then I suggest working them both out, but the
triceps will be most beneficial..

Triceps:
Close grip bench press
Dips
head bangers
push downs
kick backs
hands together pushups

Biceps:
Curls... dumbbell, straight-bar, curl, etc.

Curt

"Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin}" <freezingwiATTcharterDOTTnetTT> wrote in
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Does anyone have any websites that show examples of arm exercise to
get rid of the flabby arm thing!? Please?? I've dropped 65 pounds now,
and my arms are starting to do the turkey chin thing. Before it gets
bad, I want to tone them.

Ideas? Thanks!

Nicole

Thank you SO much Curt. I'll begin an exercise program with the arms
today!

Nicole

curt said:

Arms are easy to work out, but like anything it takes time. The biggest
muscles in the arm are the triceps. They take up 2/3's of the upper arm.
The bicep is quite a bit smaller, but more pronounced. If you want to get
rid of that turkey gobbler, then I suggest working them both out, but the
triceps will be most beneficial..

Triceps:
Close grip bench press
Dips
head bangers
push downs
kick backs
hands together pushups

Biceps:
Curls... dumbbell, straight-bar, curl, etc.

Curt

"Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin}" <freezingwiATTcharterDOTTnetTT> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Does anyone have any websites that show examples of arm exercise to
get rid of the flabby arm thing!? Please?? I've dropped 65 pounds now,
and my arms are starting to do the turkey chin thing. Before it gets
bad, I want to tone them.

Ideas? Thanks!

Nicole

Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin} <freezingwiATTcharterDOTTnetTT> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Does anyone have any websites that show examples of arm exercise to
get rid of the flabby arm thing!? Please?? I've dropped 65 pounds now,
and my arms are starting to do the turkey chin thing. Before it gets
bad, I want to tone them.

Ideas? Thanks!

Nicole

lose more weight. there is no such thing as spot reduction. that said
you can gain more muscle on yout arms which will improve the
appearance of old lady arms somewhat.

I don't want to be a killjoy but...toning the muscles won't help the
droopy skin, especially if you're of a certain age (like, over 30
maybe?). If you've been overweight for a long time, the skin has been
stretched and, like a deflated balloon, won't necessarily go back to
its original shape. This is depressing - apparently, they do "skin
reduction" operations for this type of thing - but it's big bucks,
which is even more depressing. K.

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:37:07 -0500, Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin}

freezingwiATTcharterDOTTnetTT said:

Does anyone have any websites that show examples of arm exercise to
get rid of the flabby arm thing!? Please?? I've dropped 65 pounds now,
and my arms are starting to do the turkey chin thing. Before it gets
bad, I want to tone them.

Ideas? Thanks!

Nicole

You are incorrect in this. It is obvious if you build muscle you will
tighten your skin. You can be 70+ years old and benefit from lifting.
Also, 30????? I don't know about you, but I am 38 and my skin bounces back
pretty well. I plan on lifting to achieve the tightness I want. Shouldn't
be a problem.

Curt

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I don't want to be a killjoy but...toning the muscles won't help the
droopy skin, especially if you're of a certain age (like, over 30
maybe?). If you've been overweight for a long time, the skin has been
stretched and, like a deflated balloon, won't necessarily go back to
its original shape. This is depressing - apparently, they do "skin
reduction" operations for this type of thing - but it's big bucks,
which is even more depressing. K.

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:37:07 -0500, Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin}

freezingwiATTcharterDOTTnetTT said:

Does anyone have any websites that show examples of arm exercise to
get rid of the flabby arm thing!? Please?? I've dropped 65 pounds now,
and my arms are starting to do the turkey chin thing. Before it gets
bad, I want to tone them.

Ideas? Thanks!

Nicole

Actually curt, you are wrong. There is no guarantee that stretched skin
will respond to building muscle. You would have to build as much muscle as
you used to have fat in order for the excess skin to be taken up, and
depending on the OP's weight and fat storage patterns prior to losing, that
may or may not be possible. MANY formerly obese people have excess skin
problems, and surgery is in fact the only answer. Lifting will help, but it
is rarely necessarily going to be a 100% cure for everyone who has this
problem.

--
Peace,
Pen
--
Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
http://www.pawbreakers.com

"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You are incorrect in this. It is obvious if you build muscle you will
tighten your skin. You can be 70+ years old and benefit from lifting.
Also, 30????? I don't know about you, but I am 38 and my skin bounces

back

Quoted message said:

pretty well. I plan on lifting to achieve the tightness I want.

Shouldn't

Quoted message said:

be a problem.

Curt

"Kalish" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I don't want to be a killjoy but...toning the muscles won't help the
droopy skin, especially if you're of a certain age (like, over 30
maybe?). If you've been overweight for a long time, the skin has been
stretched and, like a deflated balloon, won't necessarily go back to
its original shape. This is depressing - apparently, they do "skin
reduction" operations for this type of thing - but it's big bucks,
which is even more depressing. K.

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:37:07 -0500, Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin}

freezingwiATTcharterDOTTnetTT said:

Does anyone have any websites that show examples of arm exercise to
get rid of the flabby arm thing!? Please?? I've dropped 65 pounds now,
and my arms are starting to do the turkey chin thing. Before it gets
bad, I want to tone them.

Ideas? Thanks!

Nicole

Please don't feed the troll.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"Penelope Baker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Actually curt, you are wrong. There is no guarantee that stretched skin
will respond to building muscle. You would have to build as much muscle
as
you used to have fat in order for the excess skin to be taken up, and
depending on the OP's weight and fat storage patterns prior to losing,
that
may or may not be possible. MANY formerly obese people have excess skin
problems, and surgery is in fact the only answer. Lifting will help, but
it
is rarely necessarily going to be a 100% cure for everyone who has this
problem.

--
Peace,
Pen
--
Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
http://www.pawbreakers.com

"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You are incorrect in this. It is obvious if you build muscle you will
tighten your skin. You can be 70+ years old and benefit from lifting.
Also, 30????? I don't know about you, but I am 38 and my skin bounces

back

Quoted message said:

pretty well. I plan on lifting to achieve the tightness I want.

Shouldn't

Quoted message said:

be a problem.

Curt

"Kalish" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I don't want to be a killjoy but...toning the muscles won't help the
droopy skin, especially if you're of a certain age (like, over 30
maybe?). If you've been overweight for a long time, the skin has been
stretched and, like a deflated balloon, won't necessarily go back to
its original shape. This is depressing - apparently, they do "skin
reduction" operations for this type of thing - but it's big bucks,
which is even more depressing. K.

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:37:07 -0500, Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin}
<freezingwiATTcharterDOTTnetTT> wrote:

>Does anyone have any websites that show examples of arm exercise to
>get rid of the flabby arm thing!? Please?? I've dropped 65 pounds now,
>and my arms are starting to do the turkey chin thing. Before it gets
>bad, I want to tone them.
>
>Ideas? Thanks!
>
>Nicole

I stated that you were incorrect and I am still stating that you were! Here
is what you stated: "I don't want to be a killjoy but...toning the muscles
won't help the droopy skin..." This statement is false as I stated before.
Lifting weights can have a significant benefit to most people and you can
even get stretch marks from toning muscles. I have them on my legs from
working out, not fat.

You must have will power and determination. Most people don't have that,
hence they fail.

The best thing for you to do is apologize to the OP for telling them that,
"toning muscles WON'T help the droopy skin". How do you know, and who are
you to say that? Not sure why you want the OP to give up, but it takes all
kinds.

Enjoy,
Curt

"Penelope Baker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Actually curt, you are wrong. There is no guarantee that stretched skin
will respond to building muscle. You would have to build as much muscle

as

Quoted message said:

you used to have fat in order for the excess skin to be taken up, and
depending on the OP's weight and fat storage patterns prior to losing,

that

Quoted message said:

may or may not be possible. MANY formerly obese people have excess skin
problems, and surgery is in fact the only answer. Lifting will help, but

it

Quoted message said:

is rarely necessarily going to be a 100% cure for everyone who has this
problem.

--
Peace,
Pen
--
Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
http://www.pawbreakers.com

"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You are incorrect in this. It is obvious if you build muscle you will
tighten your skin. You can be 70+ years old and benefit from lifting.
Also, 30????? I don't know about you, but I am 38 and my skin bounces

back

Quoted message said:

pretty well. I plan on lifting to achieve the tightness I want.

Shouldn't

Quoted message said:

be a problem.

Curt

"Kalish" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I don't want to be a killjoy but...toning the muscles won't help the
droopy skin, especially if you're of a certain age (like, over 30
maybe?). If you've been overweight for a long time, the skin has been
stretched and, like a deflated balloon, won't necessarily go back to
its original shape. This is depressing - apparently, they do "skin
reduction" operations for this type of thing - but it's big bucks,
which is even more depressing. K.

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:37:07 -0500, Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin}
<freezingwiATTcharterDOTTnetTT> wrote:

>Does anyone have any websites that show examples of arm exercise to
>get rid of the flabby arm thing!? Please?? I've dropped 65 pounds

now,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>and my arms are starting to do the turkey chin thing. Before it gets
>bad, I want to tone them.
>
>Ideas? Thanks!
>
>Nicole

Penelope Baker said:

Actually curt, you are wrong. There is no guarantee that stretched
skin will respond to building muscle. You would have to build as
much muscle as you used to have fat in order for the excess skin to
be taken up, and depending on the OP's weight and fat storage
patterns prior to losing, that may or may not be possible. MANY
formerly obese people have excess skin problems, and surgery is in
fact the only answer. Lifting will help, but it is rarely
necessarily going to be a 100% cure for everyone who has this problem.

Quoted message said:

Yep. Oprah has been on a very rigorous exercise schedule for years
since she lost so much weight (including the last of it with low carb).
She kids about her "wings" - her flabby upper arms - and thought of
surgery, but decided against it.

Barb

It may help some - but if there was a lot of extra skin - it may not fix it
100%. Probably the best thing to do would be to lift weights and tone until
the point it isn't helping anymore and then decide if the problem is bad
enough to seek further help - i.e. surgery.
Diane
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I stated that you were incorrect and I am still stating that you were!
Here
is what you stated: "I don't want to be a killjoy but...toning the
muscles
won't help the droopy skin..." This statement is false as I stated
before.
Lifting weights can have a significant benefit to most people and you can
even get stretch marks from toning muscles. I have them on my legs from
working out, not fat.

You must have will power and determination. Most people don't have that,
hence they fail.

The best thing for you to do is apologize to the OP for telling them that,
"toning muscles WON'T help the droopy skin". How do you know, and who are
you to say that? Not sure why you want the OP to give up, but it takes
all
kinds.

Enjoy,
Curt

"Penelope Baker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Actually curt, you are wrong. There is no guarantee that stretched skin
will respond to building muscle. You would have to build as much muscle

as

Quoted message said:

you used to have fat in order for the excess skin to be taken up, and
depending on the OP's weight and fat storage patterns prior to losing,

that

Quoted message said:

may or may not be possible. MANY formerly obese people have excess skin
problems, and surgery is in fact the only answer. Lifting will help, but

it

Quoted message said:

is rarely necessarily going to be a 100% cure for everyone who has this
problem.

--
Peace,
Pen
--
Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
http://www.pawbreakers.com

"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You are incorrect in this. It is obvious if you build muscle you will
tighten your skin. You can be 70+ years old and benefit from lifting.
Also, 30????? I don't know about you, but I am 38 and my skin bounces

back

Quoted message said:

pretty well. I plan on lifting to achieve the tightness I want.

Shouldn't

Quoted message said:

be a problem.

Curt

"Kalish" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I don't want to be a killjoy but...toning the muscles won't help the
> droopy skin, especially if you're of a certain age (like, over 30
> maybe?). If you've been overweight for a long time, the skin has
> been
> stretched and, like a deflated balloon, won't necessarily go back to
> its original shape. This is depressing - apparently, they do "skin
> reduction" operations for this type of thing - but it's big bucks,
> which is even more depressing. K.
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:37:07 -0500, Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin}
> <freezingwiATTcharterDOTTnetTT> wrote:
>
> >Does anyone have any websites that show examples of arm exercise to
> >get rid of the flabby arm thing!? Please?? I've dropped 65 pounds

now,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >and my arms are starting to do the turkey chin thing. Before it gets
> >bad, I want to tone them.
> >
> >Ideas? Thanks!
> >
> >Nicole
>

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Penelope Baker said:

Actually curt, you are wrong. There is no guarantee that stretched
skin will respond to building muscle. You would have to build as
much muscle as you used to have fat in order for the excess skin to
be taken up, and depending on the OP's weight and fat storage
patterns prior to losing, that may or may not be possible. MANY
formerly obese people have excess skin problems, and surgery is in
fact the only answer. Lifting will help, but it is rarely
necessarily going to be a 100% cure for everyone who has this problem.

Quoted message said:

Yep. Oprah has been on a very rigorous exercise schedule for years
since she lost so much weight (including the last of it with low carb).
She kids about her "wings" - her flabby upper arms - and thought of
surgery, but decided against it.

Barb

So what you are saying, is Oprah has flabby arms and she says she works out
the correct way and she still has flabby arms, therefore, this is true for
everyone.

Doesn't make much sense to me. Just sounds like an excuse not to workout.

Respectfully,
Curt

Hello,

curt said:

You are incorrect in this. It is obvious if you build muscle you
will
tighten your skin. You can be 70+ years old and benefit from
lifting.
Also, 30????? I don't know about you, but I am 38 and my skin
bounces back
pretty well. I plan on lifting to achieve the tightness I want.
Shouldn't
be a problem.

Lifting is excellent for a lot of things. It can build muscle, which
may take up a bit of the "extra skin"'s space. It does squat for your
skin itself. (joke intended)
You're lucky that your skin bounces back. I'm a year younger than
you. Mine doesn't. I need an ellipsoid of skin approximately 9 x 11
inches removed from just my abdomen alone. I brought the rectus back
taut, but the skin is hideous. My inner thighs, ditto. Rear end,
ditto.

Take care,
Carmen

Penelope Baker said:

Actually curt, you are wrong. There is no guarantee that stretched skin
will respond to building muscle. You would have to build as much muscle as
you used to have fat in order for the excess skin to be taken up, and
depending on the OP's weight and fat storage patterns prior to losing, that
may or may not be possible. MANY formerly obese people have excess skin
problems, and surgery is in fact the only answer. Lifting will help, but it
is rarely necessarily going to be a 100% cure for everyone who has this
problem.

How much of a problem you have depends on your skin elasticity which is
partly genetics, partly general level of health, and partly age. Pinch a
fold of skin on the back of your hand, if it snaps back quickly (assuming
you are fully hydrated), your skin still has good elasticity and you
should be able to tighten up, given time. If not, you are among the less
blessed and are probably going to be stuck with some degree of 'wing
flaps' (not to mention other flaps...). The ideal is to have skin that is
both thicker and more elastic than average.

After losing over 125 pounds, I have minimal problems, thanks to being a
thick-skinned guy ;-)

Dan
325/197/190
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

Daniel Hoffmeister said:

After losing over 125 pounds, I have minimal problems, thanks to being a
thick-skinned guy ;-)

And, adding to my own post, I also think thanks to losing weight quite
slowly as you can see from my sig.

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Dan
325/197/190
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

Thank you all for the input on the "skin" issue. I guess it can't hurt
to add some arm exercises to my daily routine and see what happens.
Either way, I've got nothing to lose. Thanks!

Nicole
Atkins since 4/19/04
290.5/224.5/137

Daniel Hoffmeister said:

Penelope Baker said:

Actually curt, you are wrong. There is no guarantee that stretched skin
will respond to building muscle. You would have to build as much muscle as
you used to have fat in order for the excess skin to be taken up, and
depending on the OP's weight and fat storage patterns prior to losing, that
may or may not be possible. MANY formerly obese people have excess skin
problems, and surgery is in fact the only answer. Lifting will help, but it
is rarely necessarily going to be a 100% cure for everyone who has this
problem.

How much of a problem you have depends on your skin elasticity which is
partly genetics, partly general level of health, and partly age. Pinch a
fold of skin on the back of your hand, if it snaps back quickly (assuming
you are fully hydrated), your skin still has good elasticity and you
should be able to tighten up, given time. If not, you are among the less
blessed and are probably going to be stuck with some degree of 'wing
flaps' (not to mention other flaps...). The ideal is to have skin that is
both thicker and more elastic than average.

After losing over 125 pounds, I have minimal problems, thanks to being a
thick-skinned guy ;-)

Dan
325/197/190
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes

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Penelope Baker wrote:

> Actually curt, you are wrong. There is no guarantee that stretched
> skin will respond to building muscle. You would have to build as
> much muscle as you used to have fat in order for the excess skin to
> be taken up, and depending on the OP's weight and fat storage
> patterns prior to losing, that may or may not be possible. MANY
> formerly obese people have excess skin problems, and surgery is in
> fact the only answer. Lifting will help, but it is rarely
> necessarily going to be a 100% cure for everyone who has this

problem.

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>

>
>
Yep. Oprah has been on a very rigorous exercise schedule for years
since she lost so much weight (including the last of it with low

carb).

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She kids about her "wings" - her flabby upper arms - and thought of
surgery, but decided against it.

Barb

So what you are saying, is Oprah has flabby arms and she says she works

out

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the correct way and she still has flabby arms, therefore, this is true

for

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everyone.

Doesn't make much sense to me. Just sounds like an excuse not to

workout.

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Respectfully,
Curt

So which exercise is it specifically that works the skin? I know about
exercises to strengthen muscles, and cardio to burn fat, but what are the
skin shrinking exercises?

--
Michelle Levin

Shrink the skin??? You don't shrink skin by exercising. You increase the
size of your arm to tighten the skin around the muscle. The tricep is
really the most important one, due to it being so big.

Curt

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Hello,

curt said:

You are incorrect in this. It is obvious if you build muscle you
will
tighten your skin. You can be 70+ years old and benefit from
lifting.
Also, 30????? I don't know about you, but I am 38 and my skin
bounces back
pretty well. I plan on lifting to achieve the tightness I want.
Shouldn't
be a problem.

Lifting is excellent for a lot of things. It can build muscle, which
may take up a bit of the "extra skin"'s space. It does squat for your
skin itself. (joke intended)
You're lucky that your skin bounces back. I'm a year younger than
you. Mine doesn't. I need an ellipsoid of skin approximately 9 x 11
inches removed from just my abdomen alone. I brought the rectus back
taut, but the skin is hideous. My inner thighs, ditto. Rear end,
ditto.

Take care,
Carmen

How long has it been Carmen? I mean have you given it enough time? I went
through what I can the ugly stage and now I am fine. Maybe you just need
some more time for it to happen for you?

Curt

Hi,

curt said:

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Hello,

curt said:

You are incorrect in this. It is obvious if you build muscle
you
will
tighten your skin. You can be 70+ years old and benefit from
lifting.
Also, 30????? I don't know about you, but I am 38 and my skin
bounces back
pretty well. I plan on lifting to achieve the tightness I want.
Shouldn't
be a problem.

Lifting is excellent for a lot of things. It can build muscle,
which
may take up a bit of the "extra skin"'s space. It does squat for
your
skin itself. (joke intended)
You're lucky that your skin bounces back. I'm a year younger than
you. Mine doesn't. I need an ellipsoid of skin approximately 9 x
11
inches removed from just my abdomen alone. I brought the rectus
back
taut, but the skin is hideous. My inner thighs, ditto. Rear end,
ditto.

Take care,
Carmen

How long has it been Carmen? I mean have you given it enough time?
I went
through what I can the ugly stage and now I am fine. Maybe you just
need
some more time for it to happen for you?

I started Maintenance in August of 2000. :-) It's not going to
happen without surgery unfortunately. It's frustrating to me because
I put in all that effort and still look too bizarre to wear a
swimsuit.

Take care,
Carmen

Barb2 wrote:
:: Penelope Baker wrote:
::
:: > Actually curt, you are wrong. There is no guarantee that
:: stretched > skin will respond to building muscle. You would have
:: to build as > much muscle as you used to have fat in order for the
:: excess skin to > be taken up, and depending on the OP's weight and
:: fat storage > patterns prior to losing, that may or may not be
:: possible. MANY > formerly obese people have excess skin problems,
:: and surgery is in > fact the only answer. Lifting will help, but it
:: is rarely > necessarily going to be a 100% cure for everyone who
:: has this problem. >
::
:: >
:: >
:: Yep. Oprah has been on a very rigorous exercise schedule for years
:: since she lost so much weight (including the last of it with low
:: carb). She kids about her "wings" - her flabby upper arms - and
:: thought of surgery, but decided against it.

Oprah did low carb? I thought she was against it?