Arm Flab... Help!

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::::: Penelope Baker wrote:
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::::: > Actually curt, you are wrong. There is no guarantee that
::::: stretched > skin will respond to building muscle. You would
::::: have to build as > much muscle as you used to have fat in order
::::: for the excess skin to > be taken up, and depending on the OP's
::::: weight and fat storage > patterns prior to losing, that may or
::::: may not be possible. MANY > formerly obese people have excess
::::: skin problems, and surgery is in > fact the only answer. Lifting
::::: will help, but it is rarely > necessarily going to be a 100%
::::: cure for everyone who has this problem. >
:::::
::::: >
::::: >
::::: Yep. Oprah has been on a very rigorous exercise schedule for
::::: years since she lost so much weight (including the last of it
::::: with low carb). She kids about her "wings" - her flabby upper
::::: arms - and thought of surgery, but decided against it.
:::::
:::::
::::: Barb
::::
:::: So what you are saying, is Oprah has flabby arms and she says she
:::: works out the correct way and she still has flabby arms,
:::: therefore, this is true for everyone.
::::
:::: Doesn't make much sense to me. Just sounds like an excuse not to
:::: workout.
::::
:::: Respectfully,
:::: Curt
::::
::::
:::
::: So which exercise is it specifically that works the skin? I know
::: about exercises to strengthen muscles, and cardio to burn fat, but
::: what are the skin shrinking exercises?
:::
::: --
::: Michelle Levin
::
:: Shrink the skin??? You don't shrink skin by exercising. You
:: increase the size of your arm to tighten the skin around the muscle.
:: The tricep is really the most important one, due to it being so big.

Now you're getting to the meat of the matter. If a person has been grossly
overweight for a lot of years, then they may have had a lot of fat on those
arms. They then lose the weight and a *lot* of skin remains. Lifting
weights too add muscle is a great idea, but for most women they aren't going
to add enough muscle to fill in the loose skin (losing fat and adding muscle
tend to work against each other, so the gains will be mainly limited to
newbie gains, which aren't great). In fact, most women would probably
rather have the loose skin than to have freaky large triceps (assuming they
could even get them freaky large).

Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin} wrote:
:: Thank you all for the input on the "skin" issue. I guess it can't
:: hurt to add some arm exercises to my daily routine and see what
:: happens. Either way, I've got nothing to lose. Thanks!

That's true....also, I'd say you have something to gain, because if you can
put a little more muscle on your arms (both triceps and biceps), it will
help to some degree.

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Barb2 wrote:
:: Penelope Baker wrote:
::
:: > Actually curt, you are wrong. There is no guarantee that
:: stretched > skin will respond to building muscle. You would have
:: to build as > much muscle as you used to have fat in order for the
:: excess skin to > be taken up, and depending on the OP's weight and
:: fat storage > patterns prior to losing, that may or may not be
:: possible. MANY > formerly obese people have excess skin problems,
:: and surgery is in > fact the only answer. Lifting will help, but it
:: is rarely > necessarily going to be a 100% cure for everyone who
:: has this problem. >
::
:: >
:: >
:: Yep. Oprah has been on a very rigorous exercise schedule for years
:: since she lost so much weight (including the last of it with low
:: carb). She kids about her "wings" - her flabby upper arms - and
:: thought of surgery, but decided against it.

Oprah did low carb? I thought she was against it?

I don't think she did LC.

Curt

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:::: "Barb2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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::::: Penelope Baker wrote:
:::::
::::: > Actually curt, you are wrong. There is no guarantee that
::::: stretched > skin will respond to building muscle. You would
::::: have to build as > much muscle as you used to have fat in order
::::: for the excess skin to > be taken up, and depending on the OP's
::::: weight and fat storage > patterns prior to losing, that may or
::::: may not be possible. MANY > formerly obese people have excess
::::: skin problems, and surgery is in > fact the only answer. Lifting
::::: will help, but it is rarely > necessarily going to be a 100%
::::: cure for everyone who has this problem. >
:::::
::::: >
::::: >
::::: Yep. Oprah has been on a very rigorous exercise schedule for
::::: years since she lost so much weight (including the last of it
::::: with low carb). She kids about her "wings" - her flabby upper
::::: arms - and thought of surgery, but decided against it.
:::::
:::::
::::: Barb
::::
:::: So what you are saying, is Oprah has flabby arms and she says she
:::: works out the correct way and she still has flabby arms,
:::: therefore, this is true for everyone.
::::
:::: Doesn't make much sense to me. Just sounds like an excuse not to
:::: workout.
::::
:::: Respectfully,
:::: Curt
::::
::::
:::
::: So which exercise is it specifically that works the skin? I know
::: about exercises to strengthen muscles, and cardio to burn fat, but
::: what are the skin shrinking exercises?
:::
::: --
::: Michelle Levin
::
:: Shrink the skin??? You don't shrink skin by exercising. You
:: increase the size of your arm to tighten the skin around the muscle.
:: The tricep is really the most important one, due to it being so big.

Now you're getting to the meat of the matter. If a person has been

grossly

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overweight for a lot of years, then they may have had a lot of fat on

those

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arms. They then lose the weight and a *lot* of skin remains. Lifting
weights too add muscle is a great idea, but for most women they aren't

going

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to add enough muscle to fill in the loose skin (losing fat and adding

muscle

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tend to work against each other, so the gains will be mainly limited to
newbie gains, which aren't great). In fact, most women would probably
rather have the loose skin than to have freaky large triceps (assuming

they

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could even get them freaky large).

Keep in mind the OP didn't say how much she weighed or how old she was or
anything. Lifting is the logical choice to start and then after a year, if
you are unhappy, then you can think about going under the knife. IMHO. I
don't think surgery is the way to go unless you try other methods.

Curt

It may not hold true for everyone, but I found most of what looks like
loose skin is actually thin layers of fat in weird places. It would
seem I did not lose weight as ideally as I would of liked. Certaintly
I didn't drop it like I gained it.

I dropped below my ideal in order to loose those *skin* flaps, and I'm
now in the process of gaining back. Hopefully, through exercise in a
more muscle than fat ratio. The loose skin is pretty much gone, but
there are some area's I still need to work on. After I finish gaining
back up, I may decide to drop again, trying to loose more fat while
retaining muscle and then again gain up. Basically it seems to be a
lot of fine tuning.

Actually, not only are you wrong, but you're responding to the wrong
person. I am the original "killjoy" responder, but others have
confirmed what I'm saying.

Working out is great - no one is saying not to - but it won't fix
stretched out, droopy skin. Now, if you're talking about being 30
pounds overweight and you haven't been that way for 20 or 30 years,
the body will probably deal with the skin. However, if you're talking
about 50, 75, 100+ pounds, and you've been like that for more years
than not - no amount of exercise is going to tighten the skin - it's
not a muscle. If you ever watched the plastic surgery shows on TV,
there are many examples of people who finally got a grip on their
weight, lost 100 pounds, worked out until their muscles were hard as
rocks...but still looked like those dogs with the wrinkles...only
worse. For women, they have the added problem of deflated breasts
hanging down to their stomachs - believe me, they're not going to get
high and perky again because you lose weight - they look like floppy
cow udders. As I said, this is rather depressing because the surgery
for stomach, thigh, breast and upper arm skin reduction (this is NOT
liposuction we're talking here) is in the $15,000 to $20,000 range,
not covered by insurance (unless you're smart and tell them the
hanging skin is causing back problems, etc.) And it leaves scars on
top of everything else. I'm not being a killjoy, I'm being honest and
realistic. K.

"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<V4g6d.25023$Wa7.13428@trndny06>...

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I stated that you were incorrect and I am still stating that you were! Here
is what you stated: "I don't want to be a killjoy but...toning the muscles
won't help the droopy skin..." This statement is false as I stated before.
Lifting weights can have a significant benefit to most people and you can
even get stretch marks from toning muscles. I have them on my legs from
working out, not fat.

You must have will power and determination. Most people don't have that,
hence they fail.

The best thing for you to do is apologize to the OP for telling them that,
"toning muscles WON'T help the droopy skin". How do you know, and who are
you to say that? Not sure why you want the OP to give up, but it takes all
kinds.

Enjoy,
Curt

"Penelope Baker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Actually curt, you are wrong. There is no guarantee that stretched skin
will respond to building muscle. You would have to build as much muscle

as

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you used to have fat in order for the excess skin to be taken up, and
depending on the OP's weight and fat storage patterns prior to losing,

that

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may or may not be possible. MANY formerly obese people have excess skin
problems, and surgery is in fact the only answer. Lifting will help, but

it

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is rarely necessarily going to be a 100% cure for everyone who has this
problem.

--
Peace,
Pen
--
Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
http://www.pawbreakers.com

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You are incorrect in this. It is obvious if you build muscle you will
tighten your skin. You can be 70+ years old and benefit from lifting.
Also, 30????? I don't know about you, but I am 38 and my skin bounces

back

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pretty well. I plan on lifting to achieve the tightness I want.

Shouldn't

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be a problem.

Curt

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> I don't want to be a killjoy but...toning the muscles won't help the
> droopy skin, especially if you're of a certain age (like, over 30
> maybe?). If you've been overweight for a long time, the skin has been
> stretched and, like a deflated balloon, won't necessarily go back to
> its original shape. This is depressing - apparently, they do "skin
> reduction" operations for this type of thing - but it's big bucks,
> which is even more depressing. K.
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:37:07 -0500, Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin}
> <freezingwiATTcharterDOTTnetTT> wrote:
>
> >Does anyone have any websites that show examples of arm exercise to
> >get rid of the flabby arm thing!? Please?? I've dropped 65 pounds

now,

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> >and my arms are starting to do the turkey chin thing. Before it gets
> >bad, I want to tone them.
> >
> >Ideas? Thanks!
> >
> >Nicole
>

I suppose you know the OP and how much she was overweight? You know that
she cannot gain muscle and tighten her skin.

Not sure how you are being honest, when you don't know how much the OP lost
or how old she is or how her body will react to weight lifting.

Curt

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Actually, not only are you wrong, but you're responding to the wrong
person. I am the original "killjoy" responder, but others have
confirmed what I'm saying.

Working out is great - no one is saying not to - but it won't fix
stretched out, droopy skin. Now, if you're talking about being 30
pounds overweight and you haven't been that way for 20 or 30 years,
the body will probably deal with the skin. However, if you're talking
about 50, 75, 100+ pounds, and you've been like that for more years
than not - no amount of exercise is going to tighten the skin - it's
not a muscle. If you ever watched the plastic surgery shows on TV,
there are many examples of people who finally got a grip on their
weight, lost 100 pounds, worked out until their muscles were hard as
rocks...but still looked like those dogs with the wrinkles...only
worse. For women, they have the added problem of deflated breasts
hanging down to their stomachs - believe me, they're not going to get
high and perky again because you lose weight - they look like floppy
cow udders. As I said, this is rather depressing because the surgery
for stomach, thigh, breast and upper arm skin reduction (this is NOT
liposuction we're talking here) is in the $15,000 to $20,000 range,
not covered by insurance (unless you're smart and tell them the
hanging skin is causing back problems, etc.) And it leaves scars on
top of everything else. I'm not being a killjoy, I'm being honest and
realistic. K.

"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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I stated that you were incorrect and I am still stating that you were!

Here

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is what you stated: "I don't want to be a killjoy but...toning the

muscles

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won't help the droopy skin..." This statement is false as I stated

before.

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Lifting weights can have a significant benefit to most people and you

can

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even get stretch marks from toning muscles. I have them on my legs from
working out, not fat.

You must have will power and determination. Most people don't have

that,

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hence they fail.

The best thing for you to do is apologize to the OP for telling them

that,

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"toning muscles WON'T help the droopy skin". How do you know, and who

are

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you to say that? Not sure why you want the OP to give up, but it takes

all

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kinds.

Enjoy,
Curt

"Penelope Baker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Actually curt, you are wrong. There is no guarantee that stretched

skin

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will respond to building muscle. You would have to build as much

muscle

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as

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you used to have fat in order for the excess skin to be taken up, and
depending on the OP's weight and fat storage patterns prior to losing,

that

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may or may not be possible. MANY formerly obese people have excess

skin

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problems, and surgery is in fact the only answer. Lifting will help,

but

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it

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is rarely necessarily going to be a 100% cure for everyone who has

this

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problem.

--
Peace,
Pen
--
Pawbreakers - The Candy for Cats!
http://www.pawbreakers.com

"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> You are incorrect in this. It is obvious if you build muscle you

will

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> tighten your skin. You can be 70+ years old and benefit from

lifting.

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> Also, 30????? I don't know about you, but I am 38 and my skin

bounces

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back

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> pretty well. I plan on lifting to achieve the tightness I want.

Shouldn't

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> be a problem.
>
> Curt
>
> "Kalish" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > I don't want to be a killjoy but...toning the muscles won't help

the

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> > droopy skin, especially if you're of a certain age (like, over 30
> > maybe?). If you've been overweight for a long time, the skin has

been

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> > stretched and, like a deflated balloon, won't necessarily go back

to

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> > its original shape. This is depressing - apparently, they do

"skin

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> > reduction" operations for this type of thing - but it's big bucks,
> > which is even more depressing. K.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:37:07 -0500, Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin}
> > <freezingwiATTcharterDOTTnetTT> wrote:
> >
> > >Does anyone have any websites that show examples of arm exercise

to

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> > >get rid of the flabby arm thing!? Please?? I've dropped 65 pounds

now,

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> > >and my arms are starting to do the turkey chin thing. Before it

gets

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> > >bad, I want to tone them.
> > >
> > >Ideas? Thanks!
> > >
> > >Nicole
> >
>
>

In article <qkA6d.8929$Xd2.3746@trndny01>, "curt" <[email hidden]>

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"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Barb2 wrote:
:: Penelope Baker wrote:
::
:: > Actually curt, you are wrong. There is no guarantee that
:: stretched > skin will respond to building muscle. You would have
:: to build as > much muscle as you used to have fat in order for the
:: excess skin to > be taken up, and depending on the OP's weight and
:: fat storage > patterns prior to losing, that may or may not be
:: possible. MANY > formerly obese people have excess skin problems,
:: and surgery is in > fact the only answer. Lifting will help, but it
:: is rarely > necessarily going to be a 100% cure for everyone who
:: has this problem. >
::
:: >
:: >
:: Yep. Oprah has been on a very rigorous exercise schedule for years
:: since she lost so much weight (including the last of it with low
:: carb). She kids about her "wings" - her flabby upper arms - and
:: thought of surgery, but decided against it.

Oprah did low carb? I thought she was against it?

I don't think she did LC.

Curt

I don't watch her show during the day because I'm at work. But on "After
the Show" one day this week, I think the one with Amy Fisher, Oprah said
"If I'd known then what I know now, I would have cut out bread 10 years
ago." Something very close to those words.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

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|||||||| Penelope Baker wrote:
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|||||||| > Actually curt, you are wrong. There is no guarantee that
|||||||| stretched > skin will respond to building muscle. You would
|||||||| have to build as > much muscle as you used to have fat in
|||||||| order for the excess skin to > be taken up, and depending on
|||||||| the OP's weight and fat storage > patterns prior to losing,
|||||||| that may or may not be possible. MANY > formerly obese
|||||||| people have excess skin problems, and surgery is in > fact
|||||||| the only answer. Lifting will help, but it is rarely >
|||||||| necessarily going to be a 100% cure for everyone who has this
|||||||| problem. >
||||||||
|||||||| >
|||||||| >
|||||||| Yep. Oprah has been on a very rigorous exercise schedule for
|||||||| years since she lost so much weight (including the last of it
|||||||| with low carb). She kids about her "wings" - her flabby upper
|||||||| arms - and thought of surgery, but decided against it.
||||||||
||||||||
|||||||| Barb
|||||||
||||||| So what you are saying, is Oprah has flabby arms and she says
||||||| she works out the correct way and she still has flabby arms,
||||||| therefore, this is true for everyone.
|||||||
||||||| Doesn't make much sense to me. Just sounds like an excuse not
||||||| to workout.
|||||||
||||||| Respectfully,
||||||| Curt
|||||||
|||||||
||||||
|||||| So which exercise is it specifically that works the skin? I know
|||||| about exercises to strengthen muscles, and cardio to burn fat,
|||||| but what are the skin shrinking exercises?
||||||
|||||| --
|||||| Michelle Levin
|||||
||||| Shrink the skin??? You don't shrink skin by exercising. You
||||| increase the size of your arm to tighten the skin around the
||||| muscle. The tricep is really the most important one, due to it
||||| being so big.
|||
||| Now you're getting to the meat of the matter. If a person has been
||| grossly overweight for a lot of years, then they may have had a lot
||| of fat on those arms. They then lose the weight and a *lot* of
||| skin remains. Lifting weights too add muscle is a great idea, but
||| for most women they aren't going to add enough muscle to fill in
||| the loose skin (losing fat and adding muscle tend to work against
||| each other, so the gains will be mainly limited to newbie gains,
||| which aren't great). In fact, most women would probably rather
||| have the loose skin than to have freaky large triceps (assuming
||| they could even get them freaky large).
||
|| Keep in mind the OP didn't say how much she weighed or how old she
|| was or anything. Lifting is the logical choice to start and then
|| after a year, if you are unhappy, then you can think about going
|| under the knife. IMHO. I don't think surgery is the way to go
|| unless you try other methods.
||

No, surgery certainly isn't the first option. But 65 lbs is a lot for most
women, and the turkey wing issue is very real for them (or anyone). WT is a
good place to start.

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day because I'm at work. But on "After
the Show" one day this week, I think the one with Amy Fisher, Oprah said
"If I'd known then what I know now, I would have cut out bread 10 years
ago." Something very close to those words.

I thought Oprah did the CAD?

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 5'7" 265/165/140
& hubby- 6' 310/188/180
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lcer09/my_photos

Roger Zoul said:

Oprah did low carb? I thought she was against it?

Not at all. She did have a hard time with it a few years back, for
whatever reason, and thought it wasn't for her personally, but she's
very much for finding your own way in terms of weight loss. She lost
the bulk of her weight with low fat and could not get rid of the last
stubborn 20 pounds. She finally bit the bullet and decided to follow
the advice of many of her low carb guests and this time it worked. She
talks about it quite frequently.

Barb

curt said:

So what you are saying, is Oprah has flabby arms and she says she works out
the correct way and she still has flabby arms, therefore, this is true for
everyone.

Lol... don't ever teach a course in logic.

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Doesn't make much sense to me. Just sounds like an excuse not to workout.

Yep, the fact that she's healthy, in great shape, feels wonderful, and
looks fantastic makes her pretty stupid for working out.

Barb

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Respectfully,
Curt

Roger Zoul said:

Now you're getting to the meat of the matter. If a person has been grossly
overweight for a lot of years, then they may have had a lot of fat on those
arms. They then lose the weight and a *lot* of skin remains. Lifting
weights too add muscle is a great idea, but for most women they aren't going
to add enough muscle to fill in the loose skin (losing fat and adding muscle
tend to work against each other, so the gains will be mainly limited to
newbie gains, which aren't great). In fact, most women would probably
rather have the loose skin than to have freaky large triceps (assuming they
could even get them freaky large).

Good post. A delicate little woman with Jack LaLane's biceps ain't a
pretty picture. 🙂

Barb

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(LCer09) said:

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day because I'm at work. But on "After
the Show" one day this week, I think the one with Amy Fisher, Oprah said
"If I'd known then what I know now, I would have cut out bread 10 years
ago." Something very close to those words.

I thought Oprah did the CAD?

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 5'7" 265/165/140
& hubby- 6' 310/188/180
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lcer09/my_photos

I think she did CAD for a while, but she didn't like it. I remember her
saying something a while back about how it seemed so silly not to just have
an apple any time she wanted one. My conjecture here is that she had a
problem viewing apples and fruits as "bad" foods, and my other conjecture
is that CAD didn't help get rid of her cravings.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin} said:

Thank you all for the input on the "skin" issue. I guess it can't hurt
to add some arm exercises to my daily routine and see what happens.
Either way, I've got nothing to lose. Thanks!

Sure you do. <wink> Couldn't resist.

Barb

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I started Maintenance in August of 2000. :-) It's not going to
happen without surgery unfortunately. It's frustrating to me because
I put in all that effort and still look too bizarre to wear a
swimsuit.

Exactly my point...unfortunately this will be true for many people.
I'm *not* saying people shouldn't exercise, but for most, it's not
going to resolve the droopy skin issue. K.

Luna wrote:
|| In article <[email hidden]>,
|| [email hidden] (LCer09) wrote:
||
|||| day because I'm at work. But on "After
|||| the Show" one day this week, I think the one with Amy Fisher,
|||| Oprah said "If I'd known then what I know now, I would have cut
|||| out bread 10 years ago." Something very close to those words.
|||
||| I thought Oprah did the CAD?
|||
||| LCing since 12/01/03-
||| Me- 5'7" 265/165/140
||| & hubby- 6' 310/188/180
||| http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/lcer09/my_photos
||
|| I think she did CAD for a while, but she didn't like it. I remember
|| her saying something a while back about how it seemed so silly not
|| to just have an apple any time she wanted one. My conjecture here
|| is that she had a problem viewing apples and fruits as "bad" foods,
|| and my other conjecture is that CAD didn't help get rid of her
|| cravings.

Well, that's her issue....thinking foods are bad....some just aren't right
for us at different points in our life....

Barb2 wrote:
|| Roger Zoul wrote:
||
||
|| >
|| > Oprah did low carb? I thought she was against it?
|| >
|| >
|| Not at all. She did have a hard time with it a few years back, for
|| whatever reason, and thought it wasn't for her personally, but she's
|| very much for finding your own way in terms of weight loss. She lost
|| the bulk of her weight with low fat and could not get rid of the last
|| stubborn 20 pounds. She finally bit the bullet and decided to follow
|| the advice of many of her low carb guests and this time it worked.
|| She talks about it quite frequently.

Cool. I wish I could have caught some of those shows...just who were her
low carb guests, btw?

She always looks goods whenever I do catch a moment or two of her on the
tube. I think to myself, is that what she looks like now or.....

Roger Zoul said:

Barb2 wrote: || Roger Zoul wrote: || || || > || > Oprah did low
carb? I thought she was against it? || > || > || Not at all.
She did have a hard time with it a few years back, for || whatever
reason, and thought it wasn't for her personally, but she's || very
much for finding your own way in terms of weight loss. She lost ||
the bulk of her weight with low fat and could not get rid of the
last || stubborn 20 pounds. She finally bit the bullet and decided
to follow || the advice of many of her low carb guests and this
time it worked. || She talks about it quite frequently.

Cool. I wish I could have caught some of those shows...just who
were her low carb guests, btw?

She's had a number on - as for pros, the Hellers at least once, Dr.
Atkins more than once - I'm not sure if there have been others... but it
seems her actor/friends have been more influential - esp. Susan Sarandon.

Quoted message said:

She always looks goods whenever I do catch a moment or two of her on
the tube. I think to myself, is that what she looks like now
or.....

She's surprisingly small in person - even when in the 155 range for a
long time, she was little because of all the exercise, but you know how
the camera is...

Barb

"Nicole {Freezing in Wisconsin}" <freezingwiATTcharterDOTTnetTT> wrote in
message

Quoted message said:

Thank you all for the input on the "skin" issue. I guess it can't hurt
to add some arm exercises to my daily routine and see what happens.
Either way, I've got nothing to lose. Thanks!

I've lost 55 lbs so far. My loose skin is definitely shrinking.
I have noticed that when I lift weights, my skin seems to shrink back more
quickly with the weight loss then when I'm lazy and skip the weights.
The area I'm having the most trouble with loose skin is my stomach. Even
there, I have noticed serious improvement with the skin shriking and
stretchmarks slowly fading, but there is a lot to shrink. I've lost 14
inches from my waist, so that is a huge difference.
I've also read that supportive undergarments can help loose skin shrink
(definitely helping with my stomach area). Maybe there is something you
could wrap on your upper arms, to hold the skin closer to your muscle and
bone?

My husband lost 70 lbs and had very saggy skin... but it all tightened up
and basically disappeared a year AFTER his weight loss. I understand that
this doesn't happen for everybody, but you never know, it could be you. 🙂
Be patient, if your body has lots of readjusting to do this could take time.

I wish you luck!

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