Arm flab exercise?

Yes, fatboy, pushups are terrible in your fantasy world. And eating less is
even worse. That about sums up the limit of your experience.

--
If the price of stupid ever goes up, I claim drilling rights to this guy's
head. -- MFW

"Max Hollywood Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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JC Der Koenig said:

Have you ever been in shape?

Yes

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At all?

Yes

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Ever?

For the majority of my life

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It's highly doubtful.

Why do you say that? Is it some reflex? Because I don't think pushups
are a good choice for the reduction/enhancement that she's looking for?
Because my readings, studies and experience suggest something other
than the Der Komisar way?

Why do I feel compelled to answer? I don't know, but I think I'll stop
with this one. Your suggestion of pushaways was so useful as to be
borderline developmentally challenged for a 14 year old. I'm done. Soon
as I finish my move, you're kill filed. (and I don't even kill file
Chung).

Max

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JC Der Koenig said:

"Marsha" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>
>One site I found on Google suggests pushaways from a wall for beginners
>and then graduate to counter push-backs, then go on to real pushups.
>That sounds like it might work until I get rid of some of this belly.
>

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I was talking about doing pushaways from the table so you will eat

less,

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which is the only sure way of reducing arm flab.

Aw, that wasn't fair! Now that you mention it, I have heard you say

that

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before.

Fair's got nothing to do with it.

Two dollars off the price of admission if you take a pepsi can.

Well, evidentally not as stupid as you, Rog. You must have missed
this....or you wouldnt have wasted so much time telling me what I
already frickin said, dipshit.

Re: Arm flab exercise?

Group: alt.support.diet.low-carb Date: Thu, Aug 4, 2005, 2:17pm From:
[email hidden] (Lass Chance_2)
tricep kickbacks with a nine lb weight will target the tricep pretty
quick, but usually arm flab isnt made of a loose muscle just hanging
there. It's that last deposit of fat and stretched out skin. You can
tighten and tone or increase the mass of the tricep, but only
liposuction and the removal of the excess skin can remove ALL the droop.

Im planning on using mine as wings. I think I could glide a mile or
more.
They might serve as handy weapons, too. I could probably flap a mugger
to death.
LassChance

5-16-05 202/182/162

JC Der Koenig said:

Yes, fatboy, pushups are terrible in your fantasy world. And eating less is
even worse. That about sums up the limit of your experience.

Do you know me? I don't think so. Do you even recall anything you've
read. Here is my workout routine, and the thread I posted it in,
including where you responded to it. I note pushups (3 sets of 10). I
like pushups, I merely said I don't think they are the best way to work
triceps. Prove me wrong on that and cite something other than the Book
of Der Komisar or shut it.

http://tinyurl.com/9y5d6

Here is something else that you responded to, where I suggested that
diet (aka eating less or working the LC) was part of the solution. In
fact, it's in this very thread.

http://tinyurl.com/aj7eg

Not only are you unhelpful (I have yet to see a useful suggestion out
of you in the three weeks I've been back), but you are just plain
moronic (see references above, because only a moron would suggest what
you have suggested when there is plain evidence to the contrary that
you have responded to).

So before you suggest that I am at all divorced from reality, get a
grip on it yourself.

Pot, Kettle, Black. - MLH

Hollywood, who thinks JCdK is worse than Chung

Roger Zoul said:

Some gyms have assisted dip machines. Or, one can do dips between twos
with the feet on the floor.. Or on some stairs...

So noted, though I'm sticking with my dip free workout for the time
being. Maybe in two months when I shift it up, I will work some home
dips in.

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Isolation movements are best left to the pros, who need to get every
little bit of gain possible. Normal folks don't really need them.
Isolation movements are good for rehab, though.

I don't buy the "leave it to the pros" argument in just about any
field. I don't want to be built like a pro, but if it's efficient and
effective, I'm not going to cede it to professionals.

Full disclosure: I do >30 pushups as part of my workout, so I do
incorporate compound movements in, too.

"Max Hollywood Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

JC Der Koenig said:

Yes, fatboy, pushups are terrible in your fantasy world. And eating less
is
even worse. That about sums up the limit of your experience.

Do you know me?

Do I want to know you?

I don't think so.

Quoted message said:

Do you even recall anything you've
read. Here is my workout routine, and the thread I posted it in,
including where you responded to it. I note pushups (3 sets of 10). I
like pushups, I merely said I don't think they are the best way to work
triceps. Prove me wrong on that and cite something other than the Book
of Der Komisar or shut it.

Do you really believe that foo-foo exercises are the best way to reduce fat
from around the triceps?

Since you do, you must be a fat idiot.

(Do I need to prove you wrong? No, because you're a fat idiot and I'm not.)

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Not only are you unhelpful (I have yet to see a useful suggestion out
of you in the three weeks I've been back), but you are just plain
moronic (see references above, because only a moron would suggest what
you have suggested when there is plain evidence to the contrary that
you have responded to).

Why do you keep responding when you already stated you wouldn't?

Since you do, you must be a fat idiot.

Now go back to your soothing reality disconnect, fatboy.

Max Hollywood Harris wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Some gyms have assisted dip machines. Or, one can do dips between
::: twos with the feet on the floor.. Or on some stairs...
::
:: So noted, though I'm sticking with my dip free workout for the time
:: being. Maybe in two months when I shift it up, I will work some home
:: dips in.
::
::: Isolation movements are best left to the pros, who need to get every
::: little bit of gain possible. Normal folks don't really need them.
::: Isolation movements are good for rehab, though.
::
:: I don't buy the "leave it to the pros" argument in just about any
:: field. I don't want to be built like a pro, but if it's efficient and
:: effective, I'm not going to cede it to professionals.

Okay....but next time you get a chance, look at the body of a pro BB. What
they do is off-scale compared to normal folks like us do, who are trying to
mostly lose fat and improve health/looks.

::
:: Full disclosure: I do >30 pushups as part of my workout, so I do
:: incorporate compound movements in, too.

Good. Actually, I'm not anti-isolation movements, myself. Frankly, I most
always end my workouts on arms. But if I'm pushed for time for some reason,
that's the first to go. But two or three chest and back movements each will
hit your arms quite well. I can't even go heavy on arms after having done
the other work...

In article <[email hidden]>,

Roger Zoul said:

Max Hollywood Harris wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Some gyms have assisted dip machines. Or, one can do dips between
::: twos with the feet on the floor.. Or on some stairs...
::
:: So noted, though I'm sticking with my dip free workout for the time
:: being. Maybe in two months when I shift it up, I will work some home
:: dips in.
::
::: Isolation movements are best left to the pros, who need to get every
::: little bit of gain possible. Normal folks don't really need them.
::: Isolation movements are good for rehab, though.
::
:: I don't buy the "leave it to the pros" argument in just about any
:: field. I don't want to be built like a pro, but if it's efficient and
:: effective, I'm not going to cede it to professionals.

Okay....but next time you get a chance, look at the body of a pro BB. What
they do is off-scale compared to normal folks like us do, who are trying to
mostly lose fat and improve health/looks.

::
:: Full disclosure: I do >30 pushups as part of my workout, so I do
:: incorporate compound movements in, too.

Good. Actually, I'm not anti-isolation movements, myself. Frankly, I most
always end my workouts on arms. But if I'm pushed for time for some reason,
that's the first to go. But two or three chest and back movements each will
hit your arms quite well. I can't even go heavy on arms after having done
the other work...

That's why I do arm isolation moves on "leg" day. ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

Roger Zoul said:

Max Hollywood Harris wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Some gyms have assisted dip machines. Or, one can do dips between
::: twos with the feet on the floor.. Or on some stairs...
::
:: So noted, though I'm sticking with my dip free workout for the time
:: being. Maybe in two months when I shift it up, I will work some home
:: dips in.
::
::: Isolation movements are best left to the pros, who need to get every
::: little bit of gain possible. Normal folks don't really need them.
::: Isolation movements are good for rehab, though.
::
:: I don't buy the "leave it to the pros" argument in just about any
:: field. I don't want to be built like a pro, but if it's efficient and
:: effective, I'm not going to cede it to professionals.

Okay....but next time you get a chance, look at the body of a pro BB. What
they do is off-scale compared to normal folks like us do, who are trying to
mostly lose fat and improve health/looks.

::
:: Full disclosure: I do >30 pushups as part of my workout, so I do
:: incorporate compound movements in, too.

Good. Actually, I'm not anti-isolation movements, myself. Frankly, I most
always end my workouts on arms. But if I'm pushed for time for some reason,
that's the first to go. But two or three chest and back movements each will
hit your arms quite well. I can't even go heavy on arms after having done
the other work...

That's why I do arm isolation moves on "leg" day. ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

JC Der Koenig said:

Quoted message said:

Do you know me?

Do I want to know you?

You;d be blessed to, but you will never have the chance if I see you
coming.

Quoted message said:

Do you really believe that foo-foo exercises are the best way to reduce fat
from around the triceps?

I believe the following. I'm going to bullet point it so that a moron
like you can follow. I will try to use small words, monosyllabic if
possible, so you can keep up.
1- If you work the plan (LC) you will lose the weight, including the
fat in the arm that is the ROOT CAUSE of the flab.
2- If you lose that fat, your arm will be floppy and saggy, much like
your mind.
3- If you want to have something to fill that loose sac of flab (how I
think of your brain case), you need to work it.
4- Whether you work it in a compound movement (push ups or dips) or
something more targetted (french press, skull crusher, dumbbell raises,
et al) is a matter of mileage variation, but I think, all things being
equal, if I wanted to build my tricep muscles, I would do something
that specifically targetted those muscles. For you, I would recommend
repeating grades K-6. I doubt you progressed further, since all you do
is name call, you skinny twit.

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Since you do, you must be a fat idiot.

I may be fat but I'm not stupid. I suppose, when you are as dumb as you
are, the whole world looks stupid to you.

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(Do I need to prove you wrong? No, because you're a fat idiot and I'm not.)

Prove you're not an idiot. I'll put my degree, my mensa membership,
whatever up to prove you wrong. You on the other hand, with no
credential other than a probably phonied photo or two, need better
proof to prove me wrong.

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Now go back to your soothing reality disconnect, fatboy.

Eat me. I'm LC. Your head, on the other hand, is empty calories (but
still LC, because fat is LC, right JC).

-Hollywood, still waiting to see the reality disconnect that JC has
invented.

Quoting Max Hollywood Harris:

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I'll put my degree,

Max, I've noticed that you've signed several of your posts with
"Resident MBA" or phrases to that effect and have mentioned or alluded
to your degree a few times as well. Why?

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my mensa membership,

Why mention something like this?

Quoting [email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Suze suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious said:

Quoting Max Hollywood Harris:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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>I'll put my degree,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Max, I've noticed that you've signed several of your posts with
"Resident MBA" or phrases to that effect and have mentioned or alluded
to your degree a few times as well. Why?

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Quoted message said:

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>my mensa membership,

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Why mention something like this?

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JC accused him of being stupid.
Mensa members usually are not stupid. ;-)

The point is that there are several people that post to the group that
obviously have advanced degrees and I know of at least one person that
has an MBA. So it seems a little self-satisfied to sign posts as
"resident MBA" and such.

The only reason I even asked "why" was to give him the benefit of the
doubt -- thinking he might be a young fella that just obtained his
degree and is just a bit proud of it if you know what I mean. Or
something like that.

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What a pretentious thing though. "I'm in a club for smart people."

Exactly. It also comes across as incredibly insecure.

"I'm smrt, I'm smrt! Really, I am..."

"Suze" <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoting Max Hollywood Harris:

Quoted message said:

I'll put my degree,

Max, I've noticed that you've signed several of your posts with
"Resident MBA" or phrases to that effect and have mentioned or alluded
to your degree a few times as well. Why?

Quoted message said:

my mensa membership,

Why mention something like this?

It's Spanish for idiot.

HTH

In article <[email hidden]>,

Suze suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious said:

Quoting Max Hollywood Harris:

Quoted message said:

I'll put my degree,

Max, I've noticed that you've signed several of your posts with
"Resident MBA" or phrases to that effect and have mentioned or alluded
to your degree a few times as well. Why?

Quoted message said:

my mensa membership,

Why mention something like this?

JC accused him of being stupid.
Mensa members usually are not stupid. ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

I see you cut out the part where you promised to killfile me.

Way to go, idiot.

(Not monosyllabic, but hopefully close enough for you to follow.)

They didn't teach you how to spell "targeted" in your fancy ol' college?

Way to go, idiot.

You knew that mensa means idiot in Spanish, didn't you genius?

Way to go, idiot.

Do you still really believe that isolation exercises are the best way to
lose fat from around your triceps? Of course you do.

Way to go, fat idiot.

--
If the price of stupid ever goes up, I claim drilling rights to this guy's
head. -- MFW

"Max Hollywood Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

JC Der Koenig said:

Quoted message said:

Do you know me?

Do I want to know you?

You;d be blessed to, but you will never have the chance if I see you
coming.

Quoted message said:

Do you really believe that foo-foo exercises are the best way to reduce
fat
from around the triceps?

I believe the following. I'm going to bullet point it so that a moron
like you can follow. I will try to use small words, monosyllabic if
possible, so you can keep up.
1- If you work the plan (LC) you will lose the weight, including the
fat in the arm that is the ROOT CAUSE of the flab.
2- If you lose that fat, your arm will be floppy and saggy, much like
your mind.
3- If you want to have something to fill that loose sac of flab (how I
think of your brain case), you need to work it.
4- Whether you work it in a compound movement (push ups or dips) or
something more targetted (french press, skull crusher, dumbbell raises,
et al) is a matter of mileage variation, but I think, all things being
equal, if I wanted to build my tricep muscles, I would do something
that specifically targetted those muscles. For you, I would recommend
repeating grades K-6. I doubt you progressed further, since all you do
is name call, you skinny twit.

Quoted message said:

Since you do, you must be a fat idiot.

I may be fat but I'm not stupid. I suppose, when you are as dumb as you
are, the whole world looks stupid to you.

Quoted message said:

(Do I need to prove you wrong? No, because you're a fat idiot and I'm
not.)

Prove you're not an idiot. I'll put my degree, my mensa membership,
whatever up to prove you wrong. You on the other hand, with no
credential other than a probably phonied photo or two, need better
proof to prove me wrong.

Quoted message said:

Now go back to your soothing reality disconnect, fatboy.

Eat me. I'm LC. Your head, on the other hand, is empty calories (but
still LC, because fat is LC, right JC).

-Hollywood, still waiting to see the reality disconnect that JC has
invented.

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Suze suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious said:

Quoting Max Hollywood Harris:

Quoted message said:

I'll put my degree,

Max, I've noticed that you've signed several of your posts with
"Resident MBA" or phrases to that effect and have mentioned or alluded
to your degree a few times as well. Why?

Quoted message said:

my mensa membership,

Why mention something like this?

JC accused him of being stupid.
Mensa members usually are not stupid. ;-)

What a pretentious thing though. "I'm in a club for smart people."

Quoted message said:

--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

Quoting JC Der Koenig:

(mensa)

Quoted message said:

It's Spanish for idiot.

Heh, never heard that one.
http://tinyurl.com/8zkgk

In article <[email hidden]>,

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Suze suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious said:

Quoting Max Hollywood Harris:

Quoted message said:

I'll put my degree,

Max, I've noticed that you've signed several of your posts with
"Resident MBA" or phrases to that effect and have mentioned or alluded
to your degree a few times as well. Why?

Quoted message said:

my mensa membership,

Why mention something like this?

JC accused him of being stupid.
Mensa members usually are not stupid. ;-)

I think it's kind of stupid to pay membership dues just to make friends.

--
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

In article <[email hidden]>,

Suze suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious said:

Quoting [email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Suze <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote:
> Quoting Max Hollywood Harris:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >I'll put my degree,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Max, I've noticed that you've signed several of your posts with
> "Resident MBA" or phrases to that effect and have mentioned or alluded
> to your degree a few times as well. Why?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >my mensa membership,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Why mention something like this?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

JC accused him of being stupid.
Mensa members usually are not stupid. ;-)

The point is that there are several people that post to the group that
obviously have advanced degrees and I know of at least one person that
has an MBA. So it seems a little self-satisfied to sign posts as
"resident MBA" and such.

The only reason I even asked "why" was to give him the benefit of the
doubt -- thinking he might be a young fella that just obtained his
degree and is just a bit proud of it if you know what I mean. Or
something like that.

Quoted message said:

What a pretentious thing though. "I'm in a club for smart people."

Exactly. It also comes across as incredibly insecure.

"I'm smrt, I'm smrt! Really, I am..."

Ok, I see. :-)
I guess It just really did not bother me.
I don't pay that close of attention to stuff like that,
sorry for being silly then!

I have a degree as well, but I don't usually talk/brag about it...
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

Suze said:

The point is that there are several people that post to the group that
obviously have advanced degrees and I know of at least one person that
has an MBA. So it seems a little self-satisfied to sign posts as
"resident MBA" and such.

The only reason I even asked "why" was to give him the benefit of the
doubt -- thinking he might be a young fella that just obtained his
degree and is just a bit proud of it if you know what I mean. Or
something like that.

Quoted message said:

What a pretentious thing though. "I'm in a club for smart people."

Exactly. It also comes across as incredibly insecure.

"I'm smrt, I'm smrt! Really, I am..."

Actually, Suze, I find that much less irritating
that Pastorio's posts filled with $.50 words. That
really smacks of an "I'm superior" attitude.

Marsha/Ohio