My leader today said that she has started losing weight again to give her what we refer to as the
"clothing allowance". She said that she eliminated everything that she was not sure how to count. At
lunch she was having the salad bar each day for lunch and did a lot of estimating of what she ate.
Now she only eats what she knows the points for and it seems to be working for her.
"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:I wish I knew what the heck my body was/is doing - have no idea if I even
have a
Quoted message said:metabollic rate left. <g> I have noticed that my scales also play the
what goes
Quoted message said:up must come down game. Couldn't figure out yesterday when I weighed
myself .. up
Quoted message said:a pound. When I actually had very little to eat the previous day. But
... I also
Quoted message said:remember drinking an awful lot of water, yet not peeing very much.
Hmmmmm, water
Quoted message said:retention at it's best? Ate more yesterday, at least hit closer to the
high end
Quoted message said:of my points - pound gone this morning. Then again, it's the week prior
to TOM -
Quoted message said:which always reeks havoc with my system. Give me two more days and I'll
be
Quoted message said:tearing the place apart looking for chocolate. <G> 31 points does seem a
lot to
Quoted message said:me, but I still don't have a clue as to how many I am eating. I have
found
Quoted message said:somewhat of a point counting system that works for me, so stick with it.
It also
Quoted message said:means I am not totally correct on counting as ww does. I do not count
multiple
Quoted message said:servings of veggies - all are zero. All fruit is 1 point, regardless of
size
Quoted message said:(except for huge bananas, which I rarely if ever eat). Ketchup, bbq
sauce, gravy,
Quoted message said:etc. - usually don't count the half or one point that is used. So ... I
could be
Quoted message said:maintaining at a higher point amount than what my journal actually
states. The
Quoted message said:point being, it works for me - and that's about all we can do is find what
works
Quoted message said:for us individually. I don't believe it's those itty bit of sauces, fruit
or
Quoted message said:veggies that are what got me in trouble in the first place. <G>
Joyce
Lesanne said:I think the neatest Thing is how my scale drops Right Back Down after a
day
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:or two of journaling and staying OP. I really think that the years in
the
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:middle when I did not diet at all, but kept exercising and lifting
weights,
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:built enough muscle to raise my metabolic rate. I lost that extra
couple
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:of pounds in two days, each of them 31 points. I am really hungry at 31 too, which is not the
case with most of my friends on WW. They think
that
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:is a lot. I eat more than anyone on my journal list, when I am Losing weight.
"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:The scale just loves to reward us for eating over our points ...
immediately! <G>
Quoted message said:I was over points on Sunday, as expected weight was also up this
morning.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Oh,
Quoted message said:suppose I should also mention that I drank a whopping total of 1 glass
of
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:water
Quoted message said:(probably had 4 cups of coffee too). Today I am waaaaaaaay under my
daily
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:target,
Quoted message said:but I have eaten and eaten well - just am not very hungry for some
reason
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:and I
Quoted message said:don't like to eat just for the sake of eating. Will definitely be
interesting to
Quoted message said:see what the scale throws my way tomorrow or Wednesday.
I do know that over the long haul, not journalling is not good for me.
I
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:can get
Quoted message said:away with it for a few days or a week, but much more than that and I
think
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:I
Quoted message said:conveniently forget or just plain ignore what I've actually eaten. And
a
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:few
Quoted message said:weeks of behavior like this, and I'm in trouble. <sigh>
I did see an orthopedist when I was in my early 20's, for the knees.
They
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:creek,
Quoted message said:groan, make some rather lovely noises. One locks up periodically, of
course only
Quoted message said:when going DOWN stairs - no warning until I'm on my butt. LOL But I
disregarded
Quoted message said:his advise on surgery and still am surviving with the same symptoms I
had
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:over 25
Quoted message said:years ago - sooooooooo. My mom has had both knees surgically replaced,
my
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:older
Quoted message said:brother has problems with his knees also - so I do wonder if something
is
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:just
Quoted message said:plain heriditary. Of course, playing catcher for years in softball,
sliding
Quoted message said:constantly (improperly dragging and ripping open knees) probably didn't
help
Quoted message said:things along. Most of the time I no longer have pain, but I really do
feel it
Quoted message said:when the dampness sets in around here. I do tend to just ignore it and
keep
Quoted message said:moving. Like you, I don't see a Dr. unless absolutely necessary.
And fevers? What is it with them? I rarely ever get fevers either,
most
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:the time
Quoted message said:my body temp runs well below normal. I know I have felt like I was
dying,
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:only to
Quoted message said:be told my temp. was normal. Yeah, right ... normal for who or what?
Joyce
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:01:18 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:
>When I journal, I see that I have points to feed my very Real hunger.
And I
Quoted message said:>do it. Right up to whatever points are available. This past week was interesting. I was not
>journaling despite wanting to, then I had a
few
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:days
Quoted message said:>when I went WAY over. Just Starving. And feeling weak. I bounced up
to
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:a
Quoted message said:>high of 161.5 right off, within 2 days of eating more. Then began to journal, but ate all my
>points.. and voila, this morning 158.5. I
think
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:I
Quoted message said:>have a very healthy metabolism, and it is most likely very important
for
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:me
Quoted message said:>to eat "enough". I think if I journal all this week, by this time
next
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:week
Quoted message said:>I will be back at my lower range of 156 - 157.5. It works for me very
well.
Quoted message said:>I guess I am just not ready to stop it yet. I don't have a good feel
for
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>what is enough.
>
>Regarding knees? I damaged mine really badly as a teen with my
horses.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>When I was gaining the weight I had periods where they were horribly painful. Oddly enough, it
>also happened when I lost the first ton,
and
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>again last year for a while. NOW my knees are not hurting at all. As
a
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>nurse, I have a rule. Anything that is not gushing blood does not
need
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:to
Quoted message said:>be evalutated by a doctor unless it hurts for more than 6 months. (I
am
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:not
Quoted message said:>counting fevers and such, because I don't get em). "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>"]news:[email hidden]...
>> ... and restaurant booths. I have gone from feeling squeezed into
one,
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:to
Quoted message said:>now
>> feeling like I'm sitting in the balcony. <G> I thought my knees no
>longer ached,
>> I was wrong. The cold and damp lately has been a killer. At least
I
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:now
Quoted message said:>know
>> THIS problem isn't from the weight - just the danged injuries from
my
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:teen
Quoted message said:>years.
>> <sigh>
>>
>> I have the opposite problem as you. When I journal, I tend to eat
less -
Quoted message said:>barely
>> making the minimum of my points. I guess there are those days when
I
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:feel
Quoted message said:>like I
>> can't get enough to eat, have never looked back to see if the two
relate
Quoted message said:>at all.
>> One more thing to check into. I do think this problem for me comes
from
Quoted message said:>> overplanning somewhat. Like today ... almost too healthy on all
meals.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>Even
>> splurged on a hot fudge sundae (light fudge sauce, skinny cow
vanilla
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>icecream,
>> half a banana) and still only made it to 19 points. <sigh> Good
thing
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:I
Quoted message said:>had
>> overdone things greatly on Saturday, and probably will again
tomorrow.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:<G>
Quoted message said:>It
>> really is a balancing act - kind of like we're walking a tightrope.
>>
>> Joyce
>>
>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:34:27 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:>>
>> >YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being
able
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:to
Quoted message said:>go
>> >in a store and get the "medium" whatever and have it fit... No
longer
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>> >standing out in the world because I am huge. Fitting Everywhere.
Moving
Quoted message said:>so
>> >easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk, never
tiring
Quoted message said:>out
>> >or feeling sore knees or feet. Slipping through tight places in
stores,
Quoted message said:>et
>> >al... never mind worrying about those turnstile things, or folding
>chairs.
>> >A friend gave me an exercise ball that she was not using, and I had
a
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>moment
>> >or two of feeling like, wow, I am going to pop this thing, but no
way...
Quoted message said:>It
>> >is so worth even journaling every day if that is what it takes. I
was
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>> >thinking about the other conversation, I think Laura? said she did
not
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>feel
>> >like she had to journal. I tend to Undereat when I don't journal.
Then
Quoted message said:>> >after a week or so, get so hungry that I Overeat. I am sure in
time,
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:I
Quoted message said:>will
>> >have a better feel for it all. But not going back up. Not.
>> >
>> >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >"]news:[email hidden]...
>> >> Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that
worth
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>> >> the hassle, the ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and
worrying
Quoted message said:>> >> about what you eat? I know my current answer and I hope that I
know
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>> >> my future answer.
>> >>
>> >> Great nsv.
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots
<[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches
of
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>> >> >snow from my walkways and alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm
>> >> >that's predicted for tonight through
Monday
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:with
Quoted message said:>> >> >a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled
out
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>> >> >the snow blower even for a small amount because I've never been
able
Quoted message said:>> >> >to finish without ending up completely winded and with a
terrible
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>> >> >backache.
>> >> >
>> >> >Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up
out
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:of
Quoted message said:>> >> >breath, and I'm able to stand erect without any twinge of pain.
In
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:>> >> >fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
>> >> >
>> >> >The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!
Hoo-yah!
Quoted message said:>> >> >
>> >> >Prairie Roots
>> >> >232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
>> >>
>> >
>>
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