a Cool NSV

Besides feeling fitter, I am still enjoying the novelty of it all. The slimmer me still surprises
me on occasion. Passing a window or mirror. Or sitting and having the clasped hands slipping into
the lap since there is no stomach shelf to support them. The other night at the opera, I saw a
former neighbor, she exclaimed loudy 'wow, you look great" and then repeated it about 3 times. It
was an UP.

So I should be able to keep what I'm enjoying - I should only hope.

Lesanne said:

YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being able to go in a store and get the
"medium" whatever and have it fit... No longer standing out in the world because I am huge. Fitting
Everywhere. Moving so easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk, never tiring out or
feeling sore knees or feet. Slipping through tight places in stores, et al... never mind worrying
about those turnstile things, or folding chairs. A friend gave me an exercise ball that she was not
using, and I had a moment or two of feeling like, wow, I am going to pop this thing, but no way...
It is so worth even journaling every day if that is what it takes. I was thinking about the other
conversation, I think Laura? said she did not feel like she had to journal. I tend to Undereat when
I don't journal. Then after a week or so, get so hungry that I Overeat. I am sure in time, I will
have a better feel for it all. But not going back up. Not.

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the ceaseless
hassle and constant monitoring and worrying about what you eat? I know my current answer and I
hope that I know my future answer.

Great nsv.

Prairie Roots said:

I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways and
alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight through
Monday with a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the snow blower
even for a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up completely
winded and with a terrible backache.

Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.

The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!

Prairie Roots
232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Dear Roots Prairie besides having a split personality, anything else you want to tell us? (g)

We all have those moments or we would not have gotten where we did.

Prairie Roots said:

You know the answer: Of course it's worth the hassle etc. But it's my rational self posting this
response. My crazy/emotional/little kid side is the one who posts tantrums about the always and
forever nature of living healthy. I might have to come up with discrete sig lines so you'll know
who's posting what. <G>

Prairie Roots

Fred said:

Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the ceaseless
hassle and constant monitoring and worrying about what you eat? I know my current answer and I
hope that I know my future answer.

Great nsv.

Prairie Roots said:

I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways and
alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight through
Monday with a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the snow blower
even for a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up completely
winded and with a terrible backache.

Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.

The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!

Prairie Roots
232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Well, I may not be journalling, but I did weigh my breakfast cereal this morning, and my pasta and
mince last night 🙂 I know myself too well, and weighing food is a WOL now.

--
Julie.
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Quoted message said:

I'm too new at this to stop journaling but I could see how someone who has made lifetime MIGHT
think that the hard part is over and not pay attention to portions, etc. Without journaling I
could see someone gaining all the weight back if they were not careful. Journaling may be
another WOL.

"Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being able to

go

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

in a store and get the "medium" whatever and have it fit... No longer standing out in the world
because I am huge. Fitting Everywhere.

Moving

Quoted message said:

so

Quoted message said:

easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk, never tiring

out

Quoted message said:

or feeling sore knees or feet. Slipping through tight places in stores,

et

Quoted message said:

al... never mind worrying about those turnstile things, or folding

chairs.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

A friend gave me an exercise ball that she was not using, and I had a

moment

Quoted message said:

or two of feeling like, wow, I am going to pop this thing, but no way...

It

Quoted message said:

is so worth even journaling every day if that is what it takes. I was thinking about the other
conversation, I think Laura? said she did not

feel

Quoted message said:

like she had to journal. I tend to Undereat when I don't journal. Then after a week or so, get
so hungry that I Overeat. I am sure in time, I

will

Quoted message said:

have a better feel for it all. But not going back up. Not.

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the ceaseless
hassle and constant monitoring and worrying about what you eat? I know my current answer and I
hope that I know my future answer.

Great nsv.

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:

>I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways and
>alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight
>through Monday

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the snow blower even for
>a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up completely winded and
>with a terrible backache.
>
>Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
>stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
>
>The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!
>
>Prairie Roots
>232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

At least, cybil could have picked a respectable and reasonable 142 unless she is also
shorter???? (G)

Lesanne said:

ooooooooo. Good idea on the sig lines. Let me consult the committee, and see what we can
come up with.

Sybil (how do you spell that multiple personality chicks name anyway) This one uses the "fred"
method of picking a number for weight - lets see. 124

"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

You know the answer: Of course it's worth the hassle etc. But it's my rational self posting this
response. My crazy/emotional/little kid side is the one who posts tantrums about the always and
forever nature of living healthy. I might have to come up with discrete sig lines so you'll know
who's posting what. <G>

Prairie Roots

Fred said:

Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the ceaseless
hassle and constant monitoring and worrying about what you eat? I know my current answer and I
hope that I know my future answer.

Great nsv.

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:

>I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways and
>alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight
>through Monday with a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the
>snow blower even for a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up
>completely winded and with a terrible backache.
>
>Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
>stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
>
>The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!
>
>Prairie Roots
>232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Does your significant other understand that weighing your food is important? Mine sometimes does not
understand that part yet.

"JulieB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

Well, I may not be journalling, but I did weigh my breakfast cereal this morning, and my pasta and
mince last night 🙂 I know myself too well, and weighing food is a WOL now.

--
Julie.
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Quoted message said:

I'm too new at this to stop journaling but I could see how someone who

has

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

made lifetime MIGHT think that the hard part is over and not pay

attention

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to portions, etc. Without journaling I could see someone gaining all the weight back if they
were not careful. Journaling may be another WOL.

"Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being able

to

Quoted message said:

go

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

in a store and get the "medium" whatever and have it fit... No longer standing out in the
world because I am huge. Fitting Everywhere.

Moving

Quoted message said:

so

Quoted message said:

easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk, never

tiring

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

out

Quoted message said:

or feeling sore knees or feet. Slipping through tight places in

stores,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

et

Quoted message said:

al... never mind worrying about those turnstile things, or folding

chairs.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

A friend gave me an exercise ball that she was not using, and I had a

moment

Quoted message said:

or two of feeling like, wow, I am going to pop this thing, but no

way...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It

Quoted message said:

is so worth even journaling every day if that is what it takes. I was thinking about the other
conversation, I think Laura? said she did not

feel

Quoted message said:

like she had to journal. I tend to Undereat when I don't journal.

Then

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

after a week or so, get so hungry that I Overeat. I am sure in time,

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

will

Quoted message said:

have a better feel for it all. But not going back up. Not.

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
> Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the
> ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and

worrying

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> about what you eat? I know my current answer and I hope that I know my future answer.
>
> Great nsv.
>
> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways
> >and alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for
> >tonight through Monday

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the snow blower even
> >for a small amount because I've never been

able

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >to finish without ending up completely winded and with a terrible backache.
> >
> >Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out

of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >breath, and I'm able to stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I
> >barely exerted myself at all.
> >
> >The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!

Hoo-yah!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >
> >Prairie Roots
> >232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
>

Yes, the DBF has been nothing but supportive. He truly does understand
portion sizes for which I am eternally greatful 🙂

--
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Quoted message said:

Does your significant other understand that weighing your food is

important?

Quoted message said:

Mine sometimes does not understand that part yet.

"JulieB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

Quoted message said:

Well, I may not be journalling, but I did weigh my breakfast cereal this morning, and my pasta
and mince last night 🙂 I know myself too well,

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weighing food is a WOL now.

--
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"Laura" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aYWQb.16701$6O4.424599@bgtnsc04-
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Quoted message said:

I'm too new at this to stop journaling but I could see how someone who

has

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

made lifetime MIGHT think that the hard part is over and not pay

attention

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to portions, etc. Without journaling I could see someone gaining all

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight back if they were not careful. Journaling may be another WOL.

"Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
> YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being able

to

Quoted message said:

go

Quoted message said:

> in a store and get the "medium" whatever and have it fit... No

longer

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> standing out in the world because I am huge. Fitting Everywhere.

Moving

Quoted message said:

so
> easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk, never

tiring

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

out
> or feeling sore knees or feet. Slipping through tight places in

stores,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

et
> al... never mind worrying about those turnstile things, or folding

chairs.

Quoted message said:

> A friend gave me an exercise ball that she was not using, and I had

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

moment
> or two of feeling like, wow, I am going to pop this thing, but no

way...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It
> is so worth even journaling every day if that is what it takes. I

was

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> thinking about the other conversation, I think Laura? said she did

not

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

feel
> like she had to journal. I tend to Undereat when I don't journal.

Then

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> after a week or so, get so hungry that I Overeat. I am sure in

time,

Quoted message said:

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

will
> have a better feel for it all. But not going back up. Not.
>
> "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> "]news:[email hidden]...
> > Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that

worth

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > the hassle, the ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and

worrying

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > about what you eat? I know my current answer and I hope that I

know

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > my future answer.
> >
> > Great nsv.
> >
> > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >
> > >I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches

of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >snow from my walkways and alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm
> > >that's predicted for tonight through Monday

with

Quoted message said:

> > >a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled

out

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >the snow blower even for a small amount because I've never been

able

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >to finish without ending up completely winded and with a terrible backache.
> > >
> > >Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out

of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >breath, and I'm able to stand erect without any twinge of pain.

In

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Quoted message said:

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> > >fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
> > >
> > >The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!

Hoo-yah!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> > >
> > >Prairie Roots
> > >232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
> >
>
>

another excellent NSV!!! good for you, Lee
Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways and
alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight through
Monday with a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the snow blower
even for a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up completely winded
and with a terrible backache.

Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to stand
erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.

The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!

Prairie Roots
232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

please seek therapy for this unhealthy need for snow, Lee
WannaBLean <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

THAT'S GREAT!!! Hooray for YOU!! ( I wish WE could get some snow in West Tennessee. 🙁 ) "Prairie
Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways and
alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight through
Monday with a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the snow blower
even for a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up completely
winded and with a terrible backache.

Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.

The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!

Prairie Roots
232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

what a nice unexpected NSV, and the fact you like opera makes you even more
attractive. Lee who
Fred <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Besides feeling fitter, I am still enjoying the novelty of it all. The slimmer me still surprises
me on occasion. Passing a window or mirror. Or sitting and having the clasped hands slipping into
the lap since there is no stomach shelf to support them. The other night at the opera, I saw a
former neighbor, she exclaimed loudy 'wow, you look great" and then repeated it about 3 times. It
was an UP.

So I should be able to keep what I'm enjoying - I should only hope.

Lesanne said:

YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being able to

go

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

in a store and get the "medium" whatever and have it fit... No longer standing out in the world
because I am huge. Fitting Everywhere. Moving

so

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk, never tiring

out

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

or feeling sore knees or feet. Slipping through tight places in stores,

et

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

al... never mind worrying about those turnstile things, or folding

chairs.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

A friend gave me an exercise ball that she was not using, and I had a

moment

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

or two of feeling like, wow, I am going to pop this thing, but no way...

It

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is so worth even journaling every day if that is what it takes. I was thinking about the other
conversation, I think Laura? said she did not

feel

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

like she had to journal. I tend to Undereat when I don't journal. Then after a week or so, get so
hungry that I Overeat. I am sure in time, I

will

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

have a better feel for it all. But not going back up. Not.

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the ceaseless
hassle and constant monitoring and worrying about what you eat? I know my current answer and I
hope that I know my future answer.

Great nsv.

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:

>I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways and
>alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight
>through Monday with a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the
>snow blower even for a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up
>completely winded and with a terrible backache.
>
>Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
>stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
>
>The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!
>
>Prairie Roots
>232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

I told my DH when we first started going out, you only need worry if all my
personalities decide they hate you... Lee, that was over twenty years ago
Lesanne <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

ooooooooo. Good idea on the sig lines. Let me consult the committee, and see what we can come
up with.

Sybil (how do you spell that multiple personality chicks name anyway) This one uses the "fred"
method of picking a number for weight - lets see. 124

"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

You know the answer: Of course it's worth the hassle etc. But it's my rational self posting this
response. My crazy/emotional/little kid side is the one who posts tantrums about the always and
forever nature of living healthy. I might have to come up with discrete sig lines so you'll know
who's posting what. <G>

Prairie Roots

Fred said:

Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the ceaseless
hassle and constant monitoring and worrying about what you eat? I know my current answer and I
hope that I know my future answer.

Great nsv.

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:

>I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways and
>alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight
>through Monday with a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the
>snow blower even for a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up
>completely winded and with a terrible backache.
>
>Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
>stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
>
>The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!
>
>Prairie Roots
>232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

I like the doctor rule, I hate going and they always say things like, yep I
bet that does hurt wanna pill?? and I knew it hurt a**wipe that is why I am
here, and no I DO NOT want a pill... Lee
Lesanne <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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When I journal, I see that I have points to feed my very Real hunger. And

I

Quoted message said:

do it. Right up to whatever points are available. This past week was interesting. I was not
journaling despite wanting to, then I had a few

days

Quoted message said:

when I went WAY over. Just Starving. And feeling weak. I bounced up to

a

Quoted message said:

high of 161.5 right off, within 2 days of eating more. Then began to journal, but ate all my
points.. and voila, this morning 158.5. I think

I

Quoted message said:

have a very healthy metabolism, and it is most likely very important for

me

Quoted message said:

to eat "enough". I think if I journal all this week, by this time next

week

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I will be back at my lower range of 156 - 157.5. It works for me very

well.

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I guess I am just not ready to stop it yet. I don't have a good feel for what is enough.

Regarding knees? I damaged mine really badly as a teen with my horses. When I was gaining the
weight I had periods where they were horribly painful. Oddly enough, it also happened when I lost
the first ton, and again last year for a while. NOW my knees are not hurting at all. As a nurse, I
have a rule. Anything that is not gushing blood does not need to be evalutated by a doctor unless
it hurts for more than 6 months. (I am

not

Quoted message said:

counting fevers and such, because I don't get em). "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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... and restaurant booths. I have gone from feeling squeezed into one,

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YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being able to

go

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easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk, never

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"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the
> ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and worrying about what you eat? I know my current
> answer and I hope that I know my future answer.
>
> Great nsv.
>
> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways
> >and alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight
> >through Monday

with

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> >a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the snow blower even for
> >a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up completely winded
> >and with a terrible backache.
> >
> >Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
> >stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
> >
> >The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!

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I am blessed that DH does understand and does it for me most times without
me asking. He also is very good at guessing portions. He is the reason I
feel comfortable eating out. He can guess within a tenth of an ounce on
most meats and vegetables, pasta and potatoes are hard for both of us, Lee
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Does your significant other understand that weighing your food is

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Mine sometimes does not understand that part yet.

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Well, I may not be journalling, but I did weigh my breakfast cereal this morning, and my pasta
and mince last night 🙂 I know myself too well,

and

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weighing food is a WOL now.

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I'm too new at this to stop journaling but I could see how someone who

has

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weight back if they were not careful. Journaling may be another WOL.

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> YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being able

to

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go

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> in a store and get the "medium" whatever and have it fit... No

longer

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> standing out in the world because I am huge. Fitting Everywhere.

Moving

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so
> easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk, never

tiring

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out
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> A friend gave me an exercise ball that she was not using, and I had

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was

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>
> "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that

worth

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> > the hassle, the ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and

worrying

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know

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> > Great nsv.
> >
> > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
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> > >I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches

of

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> > >The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!

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You are truely blessed. Mine sort of understands but thinks I get anal about it and I don't weigh
everything.

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I am blessed that DH does understand and does it for me most times without me asking. He also is
very good at guessing portions. He is the reason I feel comfortable eating out. He can guess
within a tenth of an ounce on most meats and vegetables, pasta and potatoes are hard for both of
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Mine sometimes does not understand that part yet.

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Well, I may not be journalling, but I did weigh my breakfast cereal

this

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morning, and my pasta and mince last night 🙂 I know myself too well,

and

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> I'm too new at this to stop journaling but I could see how someone

who

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has

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> made lifetime MIGHT think that the hard part is over and not pay

attention

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> to portions, etc. Without journaling I could see someone gaining all

the

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> weight back if they were not careful. Journaling may be another WOL.
>
> "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being

able

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to

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go
> > in a store and get the "medium" whatever and have it fit... No

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> > standing out in the world because I am huge. Fitting Everywhere.
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> so
> > easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk, never

tiring

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> out
> > or feeling sore knees or feet. Slipping through tight places in

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> et
> > al... never mind worrying about those turnstile things, or folding
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> > A friend gave me an exercise ball that she was not using, and I

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> moment
> > or two of feeling like, wow, I am going to pop this thing, but no

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was

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> > thinking about the other conversation, I think Laura? said she did

not

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> feel
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> > after a week or so, get so hungry that I Overeat. I am sure in

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> > have a better feel for it all. But not going back up. Not.
> >
> > "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > "]news:[email hidden]...
> > > Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that

worth

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> > > the hassle, the ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and

worrying

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> > > about what you eat? I know my current answer and I hope that I

know

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> > > Great nsv.
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> > > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots

<[email hidden]>

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of

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> > > >snow from my walkways and alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm
> > > >that's predicted for tonight through

Monday

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with
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out

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terrible

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> > > >fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
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> > > >The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!

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> > > >
> > > >Prairie Roots
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> >
> >
>

Hard not to like Carmen - one tune after another.

Miss Violette said:

what a nice unexpected NSV, and the fact you like opera makes you even more attractive. Lee who
Fred <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Besides feeling fitter, I am still enjoying the novelty of it all. The slimmer me still surprises
me on occasion. Passing a window or mirror. Or sitting and having the clasped hands slipping into
the lap since there is no stomach shelf to support them. The other night at the opera, I saw a
former neighbor, she exclaimed loudy 'wow, you look great" and then repeated it about 3 times. It
was an UP.

So I should be able to keep what I'm enjoying - I should only hope.

Lesanne said:

YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being able to

go

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in a store and get the "medium" whatever and have it fit... No longer standing out in the world
because I am huge. Fitting Everywhere. Moving

so

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easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk, never tiring

out

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or feeling sore knees or feet. Slipping through tight places in stores,

et

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al... never mind worrying about those turnstile things, or folding

chairs.

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A friend gave me an exercise ball that she was not using, and I had a

moment

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or two of feeling like, wow, I am going to pop this thing, but no way...

It

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is so worth even journaling every day if that is what it takes. I was thinking about the other
conversation, I think Laura? said she did not

feel

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like she had to journal. I tend to Undereat when I don't journal. Then after a week or so, get
so hungry that I Overeat. I am sure in time, I

will

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have a better feel for it all. But not going back up. Not.

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
> Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the ceaseless
> hassle and constant monitoring and worrying about what you eat? I know my current answer and I
> hope that I know my future answer.
>
> Great nsv.
>
> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways and
> >alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight
> >through Monday with a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the
> >snow blower even for a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up
> >completely winded and with a terrible backache.
> >
> >Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
> >stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
> >
> >The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!
> >
> >Prairie Roots
> >232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
>

She is very short, and skinny and has to keep an eye out for Zena, who picks on her. Zena would be
about 157 or so. Then there is Jasmine, who is quite fat, with apple cheeks, and an apron she wears
most the time. Jasmine looks down her nose at those women who "diet".... Jasmine is about 180, and
loves it there. She makes apple strudels. See what happens when you hang around with dotty old
ladies all the time? The imagination just goes nuts.

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At least, cybil could have picked a respectable and reasonable 142 unless she is also
shorter???? (G)

Lesanne said:

ooooooooo. Good idea on the sig lines. Let me consult the committee,

and

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see what we can come up with.

Sybil (how do you spell that multiple personality chicks name anyway) This one uses the "fred"
method of picking a number for weight - lets

see.

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124

"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You know the answer: Of course it's worth the hassle etc. But it's my rational self posting
this response. My crazy/emotional/little kid side is the one who posts tantrums about the
always and forever nature of living healthy. I might have to come up with discrete sig lines so
you'll know who's posting what. <G>

Prairie Roots

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:12:24 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the ceaseless
>hassle and constant monitoring and worrying about what you eat? I know my current answer and I
>hope that I know my future answer.
>
>Great nsv.
>
>On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways and
>>alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight
>>through Monday

with

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>>a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the snow blower even for
>>a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up completely winded and
>>with a terrible backache.
>>
>>Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
>>stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
>>
>>The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!
>>
>>Prairie Roots
>>232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Oh yeah, but when EVER does the committee agree on Anything? I might have a couple who get together,
but never more than 2 or 3.

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I told my DH when we first started going out, you only need worry if all

my

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personalities decide they hate you... Lee, that was over twenty years ago Lesanne
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ooooooooo. Good idea on the sig lines. Let me consult the committee,

and

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see what we can come up with.

Sybil (how do you spell that multiple personality chicks name anyway) This one uses the "fred"
method of picking a number for weight - lets

see.

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124

"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You know the answer: Of course it's worth the hassle etc. But it's my rational self posting
this response. My crazy/emotional/little kid side is the one who posts tantrums about the
always and forever nature of living healthy. I might have to come up with discrete sig lines
so you'll know who's posting what. <G>

Prairie Roots

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:12:24 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the
>ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and worrying about what you eat? I know my current
>answer and I hope that I know my future answer.
>
>Great nsv.
>
>On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways
>>and alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight
>>through Monday

with

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>>a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the snow blower even for
>>a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up completely winded
>>and with a terrible backache.
>>
>>Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
>>stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
>>
>>The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!

Hoo-yah!

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>>
>>Prairie Roots
>>232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Hi, Fred, I have an aunt who doesn't like Carmen based on the fact that all the people act stupidly.
Well, of course they do. This annoys her very much. Carmen was one of the first operas I watched on
PBS and I love it. I, however, have a hard time with the "Magic Flute." I can listen to the music as
long as I do not pay too much attention to the plot.

--
Take Care Catherine
154/135.8/136 Lifetime 6/99 Next personal goal 133.2

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Hard not to like Carmen - one tune after another.

Miss Violette said:

what a nice unexpected NSV, and the fact you like opera makes you even

more

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attractive. Lee who Fred <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Besides feeling fitter, I am still enjoying the novelty of it all. The slimmer me still
surprises me on occasion. Passing a window or mirror. Or sitting and having the clasped hands
slipping into the lap since there is no stomach shelf to support them. The other night at the
opera, I saw a former neighbor, she exclaimed loudy 'wow, you look great" and then repeated it
about 3 times. It was an UP.

So I should be able to keep what I'm enjoying - I should only hope.

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:34:27 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being able

to

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go

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>in a store and get the "medium" whatever and have it fit... No longer standing out in the
>world because I am huge. Fitting Everywhere.

Moving

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so

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>easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk, never

tiring

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out

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>or feeling sore knees or feet. Slipping through tight places in

stores,

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et

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>al... never mind worrying about those turnstile things, or folding

chairs.

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>A friend gave me an exercise ball that she was not using, and I had a

moment

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>or two of feeling like, wow, I am going to pop this thing, but no

way...

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It

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>is so worth even journaling every day if that is what it takes. I was thinking about the other
>conversation, I think Laura? said she did not

feel

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>like she had to journal. I tend to Undereat when I don't journal.

Then

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>after a week or so, get so hungry that I Overeat. I am sure in time,

I

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will

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>have a better feel for it all. But not going back up. Not.
>
>"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the
>> ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and

worrying

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>> about what you eat? I know my current answer and I hope that I know my future answer.
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>> Great nsv.
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>> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
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>> >I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways
>> >and alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for
>> >tonight through Monday

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>> >a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the snow blower even
>> >for a small amount because I've never been

able

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>> >to finish without ending up completely winded and with a terrible backache.
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>> >Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out

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>> >breath, and I'm able to stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I
>> >barely exerted myself at all.
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>> >The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!

Hoo-yah!

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>> >Prairie Roots
>> >232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
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The doctors code "if you Cure it, no return business, make em Need to see you every 6 weeks...."

"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

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I like the doctor rule, I hate going and they always say things like, yep

I

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bet that does hurt wanna pill?? and I knew it hurt a**wipe that is why I

am

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here, and no I DO NOT want a pill... Lee Lesanne <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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When I journal, I see that I have points to feed my very Real hunger.

And

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I

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do it. Right up to whatever points are available. This past week was interesting. I was not
journaling despite wanting to, then I had a few

days

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when I went WAY over. Just Starving. And feeling weak. I bounced up

to

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a

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high of 161.5 right off, within 2 days of eating more. Then began to journal, but ate all my
points.. and voila, this morning 158.5. I

think

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I

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have a very healthy metabolism, and it is most likely very important for

me

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to eat "enough". I think if I journal all this week, by this time next

week

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I will be back at my lower range of 156 - 157.5. It works for me very

well.

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I guess I am just not ready to stop it yet. I don't have a good feel

for

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what is enough.

Regarding knees? I damaged mine really badly as a teen with my horses. When I was gaining the
weight I had periods where they were horribly painful. Oddly enough, it also happened when I
lost the first ton, and again last year for a while. NOW my knees are not hurting at all. As a
nurse, I have a rule. Anything that is not gushing blood does not need

to

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be evalutated by a doctor unless it hurts for more than 6 months. (I am

not

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counting fevers and such, because I don't get em). "Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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... and restaurant booths. I have gone from feeling squeezed into

one,

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to

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now

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feeling like I'm sitting in the balcony. <G> I thought my knees no

longer ached,

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I was wrong. The cold and damp lately has been a killer. At least I

now

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know

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THIS problem isn't from the weight - just the danged injuries from my

teen

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years.

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<sigh>

I have the opposite problem as you. When I journal, I tend to eat

less -

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barely

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making the minimum of my points. I guess there are those days when I

feel

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like I

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can't get enough to eat, have never looked back to see if the two

relate

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at all.

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One more thing to check into. I do think this problem for me comes

from

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overplanning somewhat. Like today ... almost too healthy on all

meals.

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Even

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splurged on a hot fudge sundae (light fudge sauce, skinny cow vanilla

icecream,

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half a banana) and still only made it to 19 points. <sigh> Good thing

I

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had

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overdone things greatly on Saturday, and probably will again tomorrow.

<G>

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It

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really is a balancing act - kind of like we're walking a tightrope.

Joyce

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 01:34:27 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]>

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>YES. my own .02. This is sinking in slowly with me, but being able

to

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go

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>in a store and get the "medium" whatever and have it fit... No

longer

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>standing out in the world because I am huge. Fitting Everywhere.

Moving

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so

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>easily. Running. Walking as long as I have Time to walk, never

tiring

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out

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>or feeling sore knees or feet. Slipping through tight places in

stores,

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et

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>al... never mind worrying about those turnstile things, or folding

chairs.

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>A friend gave me an exercise ball that she was not using, and I had a

moment

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>or two of feeling like, wow, I am going to pop this thing, but no

way...

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It

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>is so worth even journaling every day if that is what it takes. I

was

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>thinking about the other conversation, I think Laura? said she did

not

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feel

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>like she had to journal. I tend to Undereat when I don't journal.

Then

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>after a week or so, get so hungry that I Overeat. I am sure in time,

I

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will

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>have a better feel for it all. But not going back up. Not.
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>"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that

worth

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>> the hassle, the ceaseless hassle and constant monitoring and

worrying

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>> about what you eat? I know my current answer and I hope that I

know

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>> my future answer.
>>
>> Great nsv.
>>
>> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
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>> >I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches

of

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>> >snow from my walkways and alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm
>> >that's predicted for tonight through Monday

with

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>> >a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled

out

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>> >the snow blower even for a small amount because I've never been

able

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>> >to finish without ending up completely winded and with a terrible backache.
>> >
>> >Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out

of

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>> >breath, and I'm able to stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I
>> >barely exerted myself at all.
>> >
>> >The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training!

Hoo-yah!

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>> >Prairie Roots
>> >232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003
>>
>

Well, we've never been convicted of a felony, if that's what you're asking. At least not that we're
aware of. Maybe there's somebody who hasn't introduced him/herself to us yet.

However, that isn't to say we've never committed a felony.

Prairie Roots (aka PR aka Roots aka Prairie aka Sybil aka 124 aka Linda P.)

Fred said:

Dear Roots Prairie besides having a split personality, anything else you want to tell us? (g)

We all have those moments or we would not have gotten where we did.

Prairie Roots said:

You know the answer: Of course it's worth the hassle etc. But it's my rational self posting this
response. My crazy/emotional/little kid side is the one who posts tantrums about the always and
forever nature of living healthy. I might have to come up with discrete sig lines so you'll know
who's posting what. <G>

Prairie Roots

Fred said:

Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the ceaseless
hassle and constant monitoring and worrying about what you eat? I know my current answer and I
hope that I know my future answer.

Great nsv.

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:

>I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways and
>alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight through
>Monday with a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the snow blower
>even for a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up completely
>winded and with a terrible backache.
>
>Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
>stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
>
>The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!
>
>Prairie Roots
>232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Prairie Roots
232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

Yes, I did wonder whether I was being given a suggested personal goal weight. I thought I was being
unrealistic thinking I might try for 130 as a personal goal. That's another thread, though.

Prairie Roots

Fred said:

At least, cybil could have picked a respectable and reasonable 142 unless she is also
shorter???? (G)

Lesanne said:

ooooooooo. Good idea on the sig lines. Let me consult the committee, and see what we can come
up with.

Sybil (how do you spell that multiple personality chicks name anyway) This one uses the "fred"
method of picking a number for weight - lets see. 124

"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You know the answer: Of course it's worth the hassle etc. But it's my rational self posting this
response. My crazy/emotional/little kid side is the one who posts tantrums about the always and
forever nature of living healthy. I might have to come up with discrete sig lines so you'll know
who's posting what. <G>

Prairie Roots

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:12:24 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Clearly, rhetorical question time but is being able to do that worth the hassle, the ceaseless
>hassle and constant monitoring and worrying about what you eat? I know my current answer and I
>hope that I know my future answer.
>
>Great nsv.
>
>On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:03:36 -0600, Prairie Roots <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>I finally got around today to shoveling/moving the couple inches of snow from my walkways and
>>alley parking that we got on Thursday (before the snowstorm that's predicted for tonight
>>through Monday with a guesstimated 6" total accumulation). In the past, I've pulled out the
>>snow blower even for a small amount because I've never been able to finish without ending up
>>completely winded and with a terrible backache.
>>
>>Today I used the shovel for the whole thing and didn't end up out of breath, and I'm able to
>>stand erect without any twinge of pain. In fact, I feel like I barely exerted myself at all.
>>
>>The stupendous results of weight loss and strength training! Hoo-yah!
>>
>>Prairie Roots
>>232/165/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003